OldFan wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/1924/timberwolves-interested-in-randolph

Timberwolves interested in Randolph?
January, 10, 2011
Jan 10
7:05
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By Jared Zwerling
Now that the Timberwolves are no longer looking to obtain Grizzlies' shooting guard O.J. Mayo, since he got into a fight with teammate Tony Allen over a gambling debt, they are turning their attention to a New York Knick (Yahoo! Sports). That would be doghouse dweller Anthony Randolph. According to a source who spoke to CBS Sports, the "third team could be a charm," referring to the Timberwolves, for the talented but raw big man.

While Randolph is extremely long (7-3 wingspan) and athletic (35" vertical leap), and could help the Knicks with rebounding and blocked shots, he hasn't yet cut the rotation. Even though the Knicks beat the Spurs, who have the NBA's best record at 31-6, they are 0-6 against the other elite teams -- the Celtics, Heat, Lakers and Magic -- by getting overmatched down low.

Now fans are starting to really wonder why size is not being addressed. Consider: Last night, Ronny Turiaf and Timofey Mozgov combined for 11 minutes against a mammoth Lakers team, because Mike D'Antoni went with a smaller lineup to put points on the board, which he's done all season to run his fast-paced style of ball. But the Knicks missed shots and, worse, they got outpositioned and outrebounded around the basket, which put the game out of reach. At this point, Randolph is insurance for Amare Stoudemire, but the Knicks' brass knows the third-year player has a ton of upside and, therefore, they could be hesitant to give him up -- unless he's needed as a trade piece for Carmelo Anthony.

The Timberwolves, on the other hand, would give Randolph every opportunity to be their sixth or seventh man, especially because they sit with a 9-29 record. While Kevin Love, Michael Beasley and Darko Milicic anchor the team's frontcourt in the starting five, they have no dynamic size off the bench and their backups lack in paint production. Case in point: Their best big man in the second unit is Anthony Tolliver, who's only 6-9 and is averaging 6.7 points and 3.9 rebounds per game. Their hole at center is one of the main reasons the Timberwolves' defense ranks as the second-worst in the league, allowing 108.2 points per game. But guess what, the Knicks also lack depth in the middle -- even with the 7-1 Mozgov and 6-10 Turiaf as subs -- and they have the third-worst defense (106.3 ppg allowed). Something tells me that the 'Bockers shouldn't give up on Randolph quite yet.

TMS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:AR and Curry for Camby.

dollars don't match up... u need to add another $5M coming from POR's side

$'s work, but the trade doesn't make sense from POR side of things... they would be left without a C.

TMS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:AR and Curry for Camby.

dollars don't match up... u need to add another $5M coming from POR's side

Add any of the 3. Elliot Williams, Rudi or Batum. They have the right contract. Most likely Elliot Williams is what they would give.

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:AR and Curry for Camby.

dollars don't match up... u need to add another $5M coming from POR's side

$'s work, but the trade doesn't make sense from POR side of things... they would be left without a C.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5806840

Failed Trade Scenario
Sorry, but this trade does not work.

Due to Portland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Portland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did not happen here. This trade does not satisfy the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

oh, I wonder if this is trade kicker territory. Camby making $11.7, Curry makes $11.2 and AR at $3M. hmm. ESPN trade machine has it working.

think the problem is that different outlets have different dollar value for camby's deal. i seem to remember there being some confusion as to whether it was $25M for 2yrs or $21M for 2yrs or $17M for two years.

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:AR and Curry for Camby.

dollars don't match up... u need to add another $5M coming from POR's side

$'s work, but the trade doesn't make sense from POR side of things... they would be left without a C.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5806840

Failed Trade Scenario
Sorry, but this trade does not work.

Due to Portland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Portland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did not happen here. This trade does not satisfy the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

oh, I wonder if this is trade kicker territory. Camby making $11.7, Curry makes $11.2 and AR at $3M. hmm. ESPN trade machine has it working.

think the problem is that different outlets have different dollar value for camby's deal. i seem to remember there being some confusion as to whether it was $25M for 2yrs or $21M for 2yrs or $17M for two years.

according to Hoopshype, Camby's making $8.45M this year & $9.25M next year

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm

TMS wrote:the last time we heard about the T'Wolves' interest in AR they were offering up Sebastian Telfair, hardly even worth talking about.

really...and as bad as we need a backup PG, I would not trade rautins for telfair... that is what I think of that kind of offer..

I really hope dantoni is encouraging the kid and telling him to hang in there.. He has a lot of potential and I see us using him down the road... I would keep him, unless it is in a deal to get melo of course..

TMS wrote:

tkf wrote:

TMS wrote:the last time we heard about the T'Wolves' interest in AR they were offering up Sebastian Telfair, hardly even worth talking about.

really...and as bad as we need a backup PG, I would not trade rautins for telfair... that is what I think of that kind of offer..

I really hope dantoni is encouraging the kid and telling him to hang in there.. He has a lot of potential and I see us using him down the road... I would keep him, unless it is in a deal to get melo of course..

what i read was the Knicks were interested in Luke Ridnour but Minny said they weren't interested in trading him & offered up Telfair instead... what kinda joke counter offer is that? i don't even think AR for Ridnour is a great trade but at least it's not as insulting... Kahn really must have some kind of deep personal hatred for DW for him to keep screwing w/the Knicks this way.

Maybe he actually resented him all that time rather than look up to him. Whatever the issue is, i'm actually thinking that DW isn't worried about teams trying to fleece him. It has kind of helped him a lot with the performance of the team so far. Not being desperate is a great aid in making deals. We don't HAVE to do anything and we'll still make the playoffs. However, the plus side is that we can take our time to see what we can get out of our young developing players. Chances are that eventually we'll start to get something going with AR, Timo and Rautins. It's a long season and a lot can change.