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1/10/2011  8:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2011  8:49 AM
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Mon Jan 10 07:11am EST
Amar'e doesn't want to add Anthony

By Mark J. Miller

Amar'e StoudemireNew York Knicks president of basketball operations Donnie Walsh has asked the Denver Nuggets would it take to get Carmelo Anthony(notes) to the Big Apple. It appears highly unlikely that Anthony will be headed to the Knicks anytime soon and the New York Daily News repor
ts that Amar'e Stoudemire(notes) is feeling fine about that.

Stoudemire has said publicly that he'd love to have Anthony on the team, the Daily News notes, but a former Phoenix Suns teammate tells the paper, "Amar'e will embrace any teammate, but if it were up to him, I know he'd rather just see the Knicks stay the way they are. Amar'e likes being the guy. He likes the players that are around him. I know he's thinking, 'Why would we want to change this?'"

It is looking like Stoudemire, who is averaging 26.2 points, 9.1 assists, and 2.6 assists per game and has basketball lovers in New York feeling hopeful again, will get his wish and not have Anthony on his team

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I just can't believe this! Come on too many rumors.

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1/10/2011  8:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2011  8:49 AM
I hope that's true! A direct quote from him or even naming the source would make it more convincing though.
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1/10/2011  8:55 AM
Cool, me and Amare have something in common.
Rose is not the answer.
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1/10/2011  9:01 AM
The man says he likes his team. The man has the back of his guys. Wilson is bringing 90% of what Melo does with no ego. Amear knows if you bring in Melo you don't have much room to bring in a quality big and thats what we need.

A deeper bench and a Marc Gasol type up front.

And what we all know is NY is a destination and I can envision a day when Grant Hill type players who know they don't have starters minutes in them anymore can come to finish the career on broadway in a supporting role. Im not talking Joe Smith Either!
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1/10/2011  9:14 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:I hope that's true! A direct quote from him or even naming the source would make it more convincing though.

Chances of you getting a direct quote from Amar'e on this are nil and none and you certainly will not (100% chance) get a quote from anyone higher up than Amar'e b/c that's tampering.) It's all rumors and gossip and speculation.

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1/10/2011  9:14 AM
Amare came her for one reason and that was to be the guy. To let the NBA know how good he can be. Melo can't shoot the three and is a 43% shooter. No reason to give up half the team for him.

We are missing a big man not a small forward. Giving Jordan 8-10MM and Wilson the same is far more effective than Melo. We need a tough shotblocker/rebounder and the Clips can't afford to keep him.
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1/10/2011  9:17 AM
Nalod wrote:The man says he likes his team. The man has the back of his guys. Wilson is bringing 90% of what Melo does with no ego. Amear knows if you bring in Melo you don't have much room to bring in a quality big and thats what we need.

A deeper bench and a Marc Gasol type up front.

And what we all know is NY is a destination and I can envision a day when Grant Hill type players who know they don't have starters minutes in them anymore can come to finish the career on broadway in a supporting role. Im not talking Joe Smith Either!


Exactly--Grant Hill, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Marcus Camby, etc.
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1/10/2011  9:23 AM
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.
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1/10/2011  9:31 AM
This article and the past two pieces from Isola are sending misinformation that can't help the Knicks' effort to land Melo. What Amare has been vocal about is that he loves his team, from which we can only INFER that he might prefer them to wait out the situation and see if Melo might wait until free-agency and join this really good team instead of gutting it to join Amare.

I'm in the want Melo camp, but i don't want to gut the team AND I don't want Isola's shoddy reporter to send the wrong message to Anthony or any other high-profile players the Knicks might want to trade for or potential free-agents that might of interest during the next couple of off-seasons.
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1/10/2011  9:32 AM
What's more, unnamed player is crappy...he's also hurting the Knicks' efforts to improve the team with other high-caliber players. If Amare didn't say it or post it, I don't believe these sources or the writer.
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1/10/2011  9:36 AM
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!
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1/10/2011  9:40 AM
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.

+1 Ewing never had that 2nd superstar to help him out and he never got that ring. The team as is will never get past the 1st round of the playoffs; too small, not deep enough and Stoudemire can't carry the team on his shoulders come playoff time.

Chandler's been looking more like Chandler after his breakout game—get ready for the "should we trade chandler?" posts.
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1/10/2011  9:58 AM
Nalod wrote:The man says he likes his team. The man has the back of his guys. Wilson is bringing 90% of what Melo does with no ego. Amear knows if you bring in Melo you don't have much room to bring in a quality big and thats what we need.

A deeper bench and a Marc Gasol type up front.

And what we all know is NY is a destination and I can envision a day when Grant Hill type players who know they don't have starters minutes in them anymore can come to finish the career on broadway in a supporting role. Im not talking Joe Smith Either!

man you said it... Chandler is bringing 90% of what Melo brings at 1/3 the price. When you look at Chandler's play, how he's progressed, the skills he's developed, his attitude, his athleticism... his upside is very high. All Chandler does is what he's asked and all he does is deliver.

Wilson... we need you to play SG. No problem
Wilson... we need you to play PF. No problem
Wilson... we need you to come off the bench. No problem

Lucky for us Walsh is not as enamored with shiney new toys as some around here and he will bring Chandler back.

As for Amare not wanting him? Not sure I subscribe to that, but I think Amare feels he can win with the players we have. He like Walsh probably thinks we just need time to gel and maybe a big body to help out.

Chandler is turning into a stud. Fields is turning into a stud nobody saw that coming). Williams is turning into a legit rotation player and a good one. Gallo has been inconsistant but still played well. Douglas has been much better of late and Turiaf continues to play very well for stretches.

Knicks are improving from within and doing so in big strides. All we need to do is be patient and enjoy the winning

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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1/10/2011  9:58 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.
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1/10/2011  10:06 AM
fishmike wrote:
Nalod wrote:The man says he likes his team. The man has the back of his guys. Wilson is bringing 90% of what Melo does with no ego. Amear knows if you bring in Melo you don't have much room to bring in a quality big and thats what we need.

A deeper bench and a Marc Gasol type up front.

And what we all know is NY is a destination and I can envision a day when Grant Hill type players who know they don't have starters minutes in them anymore can come to finish the career on broadway in a supporting role. Im not talking Joe Smith Either!

man you said it... Chandler is bringing 90% of what Melo brings at 1/3 the price. When you look at Chandler's play, how he's progressed, the skills he's developed, his attitude, his athleticism... his upside is very high. All Chandler does is what he's asked and all he does is deliver.

Wilson... we need you to play SG. No problem
Wilson... we need you to play PF. No problem
Wilson... we need you to come off the bench. No problem

Lucky for us Walsh is not as enamored with shiney new toys as some around here and he will bring Chandler back.

As for Amare not wanting him? Not sure I subscribe to that, but I think Amare feels he can win with the players we have. He like Walsh probably thinks we just need time to gel and maybe a big body to help out.

Chandler is turning into a stud. Fields is turning into a stud nobody saw that coming). Williams is turning into a legit rotation player and a good one. Gallo has been inconsistant but still played well. Douglas has been much better of late and Turiaf continues to play very well for stretches.

Knicks are improving from within and doing so in big strides. All we need to do is be patient and enjoy the winning

"All Chandler does is what he's asked and all he does is deliver" you're absolutely right but we need more than that...and NOW.
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1/10/2011  10:13 AM
Ewing was a great player. True he never had the superstar we all wanted, but the Knicks gave him enough sporting players around him to deliever a championship on multiple occasions. He missed big shots his entire career and when he had his chance in 1994 against Hakeem he didn't deliever.

Ewing 18.9pts 12.4rbs 1.7ass 4.3blks 36% from the field
Hakeem 26.9pts 9.1rbs 3.6ass 3.9blks 50% from the field

Supporting cast
Starks 17.7pts 5.9ass
Harper 16.4pts 6ass
Oak 11pts 11.9rbs
Smith 9.3
Mason 8.6pts


He got a few bad breaks Charles Smith, Michael Jordan, Suspensions. But, he had the best team in the series. He had trouble embracing and warming up to teammates and always wanted the most money.

Clearly, he was our guy, the guy and an All Time Great.

But what we have hear is very similiar. But we have young guys that are getting better. Signing Melo for 22MM and giving away your whole team is going to do what. We need big bodies we are not matching up with the heat so you attack there weakness, as you do with the Bulls. We have a good team and are a few key pieces away. Melo isn't making us the team to beat. Patience is the move.
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1/10/2011  10:15 AM
Nalod wrote:The man says he likes his team. The man has the back of his guys. Wilson is bringing 90% of what Melo does with no ego. Amear knows if you bring in Melo you don't have much room to bring in a quality big and thats what we need.

A deeper bench and a Marc Gasol type up front.

And what we all know is NY is a destination and I can envision a day when Grant Hill type players who know they don't have starters minutes in them anymore can come to finish the career on broadway in a supporting role. Im not talking Joe Smith Either!

I like the idea of Marc, as earlier threads and posts I contributed to the forum, but we also need a great guard/SF to compliment Chandler (if he's still part of the future of the team). Basically that second superstar is important and Marc (who's really not available) and Wilson don't combine to fill that role. Swing Wilson to the 2 and if they were to add Melo while eventually adding a real center is the ideal plan, but it's not looking promising at the moment.
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1/10/2011  10:24 AM
MS wrote:Ewing was a great player. True he never had the superstar we all wanted, but the Knicks gave him enough sporting players around him to deliever a championship on multiple occasions. He missed big shots his entire career and when he had his chance in 1994 against Hakeem he didn't deliever.

Ewing 18.9pts 12.4rbs 1.7ass 4.3blks 36% from the field
Hakeem 26.9pts 9.1rbs 3.6ass 3.9blks 50% from the field

Supporting cast
Starks 17.7pts 5.9ass
Harper 16.4pts 6ass
Oak 11pts 11.9rbs
Smith 9.3
Mason 8.6pts


He got a few bad breaks Charles Smith, Michael Jordan, Suspensions. But, he had the best team in the series. He had trouble embracing and warming up to teammates and always wanted the most money.

Clearly, he was our guy, the guy and an All Time Great.

But what we have hear is very similiar. But we have young guys that are getting better. Signing Melo for 22MM and giving away your whole team is going to do what. We need big bodies we are not matching up with the heat so you attack there weakness, as you do with the Bulls. We have a good team and are a few key pieces away. Melo isn't making us the team to beat. Patience is the move.

I blame Riley for not telling Starks to stop jacking up threes and drive to the rim more in game 7.
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1/10/2011  10:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2011  10:28 AM
Nalod wrote:And what we all know is NY is a destination and I can envision a day when Grant Hill type players who know they don't have starters minutes in them anymore can come to finish the career on broadway in a supporting role. Im not talking Joe Smith Either!

Yeah, we all know this as long as FIU goes to the final four and then their coach returns triumphantly to Dolanland to run things into the ground once more...
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1/10/2011  10:28 AM
MS wrote:Ewing was a great player. True he never had the superstar we all wanted, but the Knicks gave him enough sporting players around him to deliever a championship on multiple occasions. He missed big shots his entire career and when he had his chance in 1994 against Hakeem he didn't deliever.

Ewing 18.9pts 12.4rbs 1.7ass 4.3blks 36% from the field
Hakeem 26.9pts 9.1rbs 3.6ass 3.9blks 50% from the field

Supporting cast
Starks 17.7pts 5.9ass
Harper 16.4pts 6ass
Oak 11pts 11.9rbs
Smith 9.3
Mason 8.6pts


He got a few bad breaks Charles Smith, Michael Jordan, Suspensions. But, he had the best team in the series. He had trouble embracing and warming up to teammates and always wanted the most money.

Clearly, he was our guy, the guy and an All Time Great.

But what we have hear is very similiar. But we have young guys that are getting better. Signing Melo for 22MM and giving away your whole team is going to do what. We need big bodies we are not matching up with the heat so you attack there weakness, as you do with the Bulls. We have a good team and are a few key pieces away. Melo isn't making us the team to beat. Patience is the move.

Yes, Ewing didn't deliver and neither did his "supporting cast". those numbers are mediocre.

but thank you for digging up those numbers—it's very interesting.
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