1) Trade for Melo, Curry/Gallo/AR/2014 pick during season.
2) Sign DeAndre Jordan for full MLE in offseason.

Jordan, Amare, Melo, Fields, Felton. Bench: Chandler, Williams, TD, Turiaf, Moz, Walker, Rautins, 2011 pick.

Jordan is an obvious wild card player and I have no real feel for him other than he is big body and is gaining ground playing-wise in LAC - lost of rebounds, blocked shots and toughness. Have zero idea if he would actually leave and don't even know if he is unrestricted or restricted or if LAC would offer him more than MLE. Probably all of the above but what the hell. Would he want to play next to Amare and Melo or Blake and Eric Gordan

You get tough down the middle with Jordan and Amare and I think that is good enough to battle Miami at its weak point (Bosh is still a *****). And you get your 1-on-1 breakdown guy in Melo. Fields, Felton, Jordan have to be total glue guys who do the rebounding and defense. Chandler is spark off bench and can play SG/SF/PF. Turiaf is energy and backup big. Williams and Walker cover the 3point line and TD grows in his role.

What's not to like

Honestly, what I'd like to see the most is adding Love and Iggy, but I have no idea what it would take to pull that off, or if it is even realistically possible. But that would be my ideal upgrade

martin wrote:I have flipped flopped a little over time and this is my new dream scenario over the next 6 months, and when I say dream, I am not talking about super unrealistic, just a bit dreamy

1) Trade for Melo, Curry/Gallo/AR/2014 pick during season.
2) Sign DeAndre Jordan for full MLE in offseason.

Jordan, Amare, Melo, Fields, Felton. Bench: Chandler, Williams, TD, Turiaf, Moz, Walker, Rautins, 2011 pick.

Jordan is an obvious wild card player and I have no real feel for him other than he is big body and is gaining ground playing-wise in LAC - lost of rebounds, blocked shots and toughness. Have zero idea if he would actually leave and don't even know if he is unrestricted or restricted or if LAC would offer him more than MLE. Probably all of the above but what the hell. Would he want to play next to Amare and Melo or Blake and Eric Gordan

You get tough down the middle with Jordan and Amare and I think that is good enough to battle Miami at its weak point (Bosh is still a *****). And you get your 1-on-1 breakdown guy in Melo. Fields, Felton, Jordan have to be total glue guys who do the rebounding and defense. Chandler is spark off bench and can play SG/SF/PF. Turiaf is energy and backup big. Williams and Walker cover the 3point line and TD grows in his role.

What's not to like

TMS wrote:DeAndre Jordan would find his way into AR's role in MDA's offense.

really? Why? Have you seen him play much? What's he like?

The following roster:
Felton, Chandler, Melo, Gallo, Amare, TD, Jordan, Moz and Rautins.

Now that would be a dream.

Jordan was a monster in High School.

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:DeAndre Jordan would find his way into AR's role in MDA's offense.

really? Why? Have you seen him play much? What's he like?

i've seen him play enough times to know he's not the smart, basketball IQ type player MDA likes to use... & his offensive skills are very limited... he's all about dunks around the rim, has hardly any developed post skills & gets by using mostly his athleticism... if u wanna know the truth AR's offensive skillset is probably much more advanced than Jordan's are.

good to know

The guy we bring in has to be a guy that knows how to play. He can't be a young dude still trying to figure it out. A young guy that knows how to get it done is preferable. It's not easy to solve our needs. I'm sure Donnie envisioned AR developing into a solution, so that's the biggest disappointment in terms of how this roster was built.

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:DeAndre Jordan would find his way into AR's role in MDA's offense.

really? Why? Have you seen him play much? What's he like?

i've seen him play enough times to know he's not the smart, basketball IQ type player MDA likes to use... & his offensive skills are very limited... he's all about dunks around the rim, has hardly any developed post skills & gets by using mostly his athleticism... if u wanna know the truth AR's offensive skillset is probably much more advanced than Jordan's are.

Some questions about his play: Does he play outside of his limits? He seems to get a boatload of blocks and rebounds and has a high FG%. That would suggest to me that although he may have limited offensive range, he does only what he is expected to do. Similar to Turiaf but without the passing skills, but also with better size and athleticism.

AR is such a tough guy for me to compare anyone to cause he seems to both 1) play outside of what he should be doing - lots of 18 footers that make no sense and 2) play with zero sense of urgency.

I am OK with a guy who is limited but plays within the context of the system. Perhaps Jordan still can't do that?

his high FG % is a product of all the offensive putbacks & dunks he gets around the rim... i wouldn't say he plays out of his limits persay, but his game doesn't really translate to what MDA traditionally looks for out of his C... he blocks shots yes, but he's not a great defensive player... he's often late rotating on help defense, he doesn't seem to be 100% sure of where he's supposed to be on offense, & generally seems like a player that still needs to go through his growing pains with a coach who's gonna be patient enough to stick with him even through the mistakes he makes on the floor... i don't see MDA as being that coach for DeAndre Jordan's potential to be fully realized... i actually do like D Jordan & wouldn't mind having him, but i have a distinct feeling he's just the type of player that would find himself relegated to the end of the bench playing for this head coach... 1 thing i will say tho, is that he is a very good rebounder.

i draw my comments from watching him play last season several times while i was living out in LA... he may have taken huge steps in his development this season, so take this for what you will.

martin wrote:

nixluva wrote:If Turiaf could shoot the midrange jumper consistently he'd be a perfect C for MDA. He plays smart and makes good passes, but his lack of confidence offensively is almost comical at times. How many times has Turiaf been almost right at the hoop and throws the ball back out to the perimeter? It hasn't really hurt us, but it's overpassing and really either he needs to gain some confidence or we need to really find a replacement for him. The fact that he's not a real beast on the boards doesn't help things.

The guy we bring in has to be a guy that knows how to play. He can't be a young dude still trying to figure it out. A young guy that knows how to get it done is preferable. It's not easy to solve our needs. I'm sure Donnie envisioned AR developing into a solution, so that's the biggest disappointment in terms of how this roster was built.

Turiaf's rebounding is mediocre at best too.

Turiaf is not a great rebounder but he makes up for this in his basketball smarts... he's easily the best player on our team in terms of defensive rotations, & he's got a good sense of what to do w/the ball once he gets it in his hands... he doesn't force up bad shots & rotates the ball well... in many ways, he's like Fishlips with some cahones.

TMS wrote:i draw my comments from watching him play last season several times while i was living out in LA... he may have taken huge steps in his development this season, so take this for what you will.

well, i am thinking that Jordan of last year may be very different than this year.

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:i draw my comments from watching him play last season several times while i was living out in LA... he may have taken huge steps in his development this season, so take this for what you will.

well, i am thinking that Jordan of last year may be very different than this year.

IMO the only thing that's changed is him getting more minutes.

how do you know if you are not watching him play?