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TMS
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1/8/2011  2:36 AM
please don't take this as an "I hate Gallo thread", it's not... i have been 1 of his biggest supporters since he got drafted... & i'm not saying i think Shawne Williams is just as good a player as Gallo either... but right now w/the way Shawne Williams is shooting the rock, i think it makes Gallo more expendable... if we're going to trade any of our 3 top young players to upgrade anywhere, i think Gallo should be the 1st one to consider moving.

w/our offense running through Amare & Felton w/Wilson also playing a significant role, i don't see much of a featured role for Gallo to become much better than the player he is right now, at least not offensively... he's pretty much averaging the same numbers this year as he did last year, i think he may have plateued a bit... things could change obviously down the road, u never know what types of injuries could occur that might thrust Gallo into a more featured role, but right now as things stand, i don't think it would be a huge loss if we dealt Gallo to upgrade at the 4 or 5 (depending on where Amare plays).

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1/8/2011  8:41 AM
No problem with this thread. Who would have thought that Shawne Williams and Landry Fields would be playing important roles on this team, as of say last June - and that AR would be buried on the bench and Azubuike would not be ready to come back from his injury. With Chandler coming out, Williams playing well and Bill Walker ready to take some minutes, Gallo can be spared.
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1/8/2011  8:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/8/2011  9:32 AM
TMS wrote:please don't take this as an "I hate Gallo thread", it's not... i have been 1 of his biggest supporters since he got drafted... & i'm not saying i think Shawne Williams is just as good a player as Gallo either... but right now w/the way Shawne Williams is shooting the rock, i think it makes Gallo more expendable... if we're going to trade any of our 3 top young players to upgrade anywhere, i think Gallo should be the 1st one to consider moving.

w/our offense running through Amare & Felton w/Wilson also playing a significant role, i don't see much of a featured role for Gallo to become much better than the player he is right now, at least not offensively... he's pretty much averaging the same numbers this year as he did last year, i think he may have plateued a bit... things could change obviously down the road, u never know what types of injuries could occur that might thrust Gallo into a more featured role, but right now as things stand, i don't think it would be a huge loss if we dealt Gallo to upgrade at the 4 or 5 (depending on where Amare plays).

Completely agree with everything being said here. Gallo is what he is -- I like him, but I don't see him ever being that much more that what he is right now which is a good shooter (one of many we have on this roster right now mind you) and only average to slightly above average in every other area of the game. Last night in PHX was only the second game w/o him but seriously, look at the last two games (at home against the Spurs, the best team in the league, and @ PHX) and tell me where we miss him and what he brings that we don't already have..His offense, basically his best attribute he offers the team, has been easily absorbed by our other top offensive threats -- I'm perfectly cool with Ray & Chandler getting more shots--if Ray & Wil have gotten those additional shots right from the beginning, they'd both be locks for the all-star game.. Then you're talking about guys like Shawne Williams & Bill Walker getting addition perimeter shot attempts -- those two can shoot the ball esp Williams, man what a find he's been huh? WOW!), we're scoring enough pts, we're rebounding the ball just as well if not better, we're playing just as well defensively..I mean someone tell me please, where in the last 2 games has anyone said to themselves, 'man, if we only had Gallo in there'? I'm beginning to suspect, even in games we lose, people won't be thinking that afterward..

Again, like TMS said, I'm no Gallo hater either, and I'll be looking at more than just 2 games to really test the theory, but if after this 2-3 week period or however long it takes Gallo to heal, we're still playing and rolling, even the biggest Gallo fan has got to look at this situation for what it is: Gallo might be better served as trade bait to make this team better than what it is right now..I say you do it now before other GMs begin to see Gallo as more of a support player and not a guy that still has all this untapped potential..If after a couple of years Gallo's play levels out to more or less what we're seeing right now and then we have to start paying him some real bucks (if everything stays the same and we keep this roster core intact--Gallo will eventually be looking for Wilson Chandler-type money, bank on it, and what have we been saying that'll be, in the $8-10M a year range??), it'll be even harder to move him..It might make less sense to deal for him at that time--even for the teams out there that have always liked him; smart GMs will go out and find guys that bring just as much if not more than Gallinari for a much better price---I know that's what I'd look to do..I understand every trade has it's own thought-process behind making it (I understand he'll never be Rashad Lewis or Gilbert Arenas untradeable) but on face value alone, I wouldn't trade for Danilo Gallinari at $8-10M a pop if I didn't have to, I can tell you that..I suspect he'll never have as much value as he does right now -- he's young, still on his rookie contract and he still may have potential in some other teams' eyes around the league --- start shopping him right now and see what you can come up with..

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1/8/2011  9:12 AM
I agree overall but you have to realize he's not going to keep shooting 3s at 55%. I think Gallo is the better player overall but the difference is small enough for me to feel comfortable trading Gallo for someone else, especially since we already have tons of SFs anyway.
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1/8/2011  10:31 AM
Williams is better than Gallo.
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1/8/2011  11:08 AM
how about this.. since chandler pretty much was non existent last night until garbage time, shooting 3-9 before then, and we still blew the suns out.. How about get rid of chandler.. maybe he is now expendable? give that a thought? why is it that everytime a player has a decent game.. gallo is expendable.. hell I heard jerome jordan is playing well overseas.. gallo is expendable.. marbury had a good game in china.. gallo is expendable.. President Obama had a good game playing two on two vs the whitehouse staff and Gallo is now expendable..

Please.. enough with this.... it goes from one to the other.. chandler stunk last night, now we have to find someone else to make gallo expendable.. rofl.. wow..

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1/8/2011  11:09 AM
Heck, we started Tony Douglas last night... Turiaf is now expendable..... SMH at you guys..
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1/8/2011  11:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/8/2011  11:12 AM
tkf wrote:how about this.. since chandler pretty much was non existent last night until garbage time, shooting 3-9 before then, and we still blew the suns out.. How about get rid of chandler.. maybe he is now expendable? give that a thought? why is it that everytime a player has a decent game.. gallo is expendable.. hell I heard jerome jordan is playing well overseas.. gallo is expendable.. marbury had a good game in china.. gallo is expendable.. President Obama had a good game playing two on two vs the whitehouse staff and Gallo is now expendable..

Please.. enough with this.... it goes from one to the other.. chandler stunk last night, now we have to find someone else to make gallo expendable.. rofl.. wow..

Where did you get the idea from that TMS's comments here are just based on a 1 game sample?

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1/8/2011  11:17 AM
Finestrg wrote:Completely agree with everything being said here. Gallo is what he is -- I like him, but I don't see him ever being that much more that what he is right now which is a good shooter (one of many we have on this roster right now mind you) and only average to slightly above average in every other area of the game.

Bonn1997 wrote:I agree overall but you have to realize he's not going to keep shooting 3s at 55%. I think Gallo is the better player overall but the difference is small enough for me to feel comfortable trading Gallo for someone else, especially since we already have tons of SFs anyway.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Williams is better than Gallo.

Wow, you guys need to watch Gallo more closely if that's all you got from him. As a big man with size, his ability to shoot and put the ball on the floor while driving for contact is incredible. The TS% for his size, age, experience is quite extraordinary. Don't sleep on that

Gallo just hasn't been able to put it all together, just as Will had not until about 20 games ago; if he does, and starts getting to the line 8+ times a game, watch out.

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1/8/2011  11:18 AM
I like williams but I want a bigger sample before I'd make decisions based on his contribution.
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1/8/2011  11:23 AM
OldFan wrote:I like williams but I want a bigger sample before I'd make decisions based on his contribution.

I agree. That three point shot of his is looking silkier by the game but I see Gallo being more active, doing more of the little things. He drives a lot more. He also plays better D imo. Williams might be just getting started but its still too early to tell.

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1/8/2011  11:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/8/2011  11:28 AM
tkf wrote:how about this.. since chandler pretty much was non existent last night until garbage time, shooting 3-9 before then, and we still blew the suns out.. How about get rid of chandler.. maybe he is now expendable? give that a thought? why is it that everytime a player has a decent game.. gallo is expendable.. hell I heard jerome jordan is playing well overseas.. gallo is expendable.. marbury had a good game in china.. gallo is expendable.. President Obama had a good game playing two on two vs the whitehouse staff and Gallo is now expendable..

Please.. enough with this.... it goes from one to the other.. chandler stunk last night, now we have to find someone else to make gallo expendable.. rofl.. wow..

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1/8/2011  12:13 PM
I agree... Gallo has shown promise this year, but at some point, the team has to choose between Gallo and Chandler at SF. The team will miss what Chandler will do more than Gallo because the outisde shooting has been good across the board. If the Knicks gan use Gallo to get rebounding or playmaking it should be a serious consideration
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1/8/2011  12:20 PM
I would not do this this year. I would make Gallo available for a high draft pick if we could land Kanter. D Walsh has done this before. I think Kanter might be the next Tim Duncan.
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1/8/2011  12:23 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:how about this.. since chandler pretty much was non existent last night until garbage time, shooting 3-9 before then, and we still blew the suns out.. How about get rid of chandler.. maybe he is now expendable? give that a thought? why is it that everytime a player has a decent game.. gallo is expendable.. hell I heard jerome jordan is playing well overseas.. gallo is expendable.. marbury had a good game in china.. gallo is expendable.. President Obama had a good game playing two on two vs the whitehouse staff and Gallo is now expendable..

Please.. enough with this.... it goes from one to the other.. chandler stunk last night, now we have to find someone else to make gallo expendable.. rofl.. wow..

Where did you get the idea from that TMS's comments here are just based on a 1 game sample?

so this is based on a season of playfrom both williams and walker who barely plays? if so then it is even more ridiculous than I thought.. and I guess you felt you were helping TMS with this post?

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BRIGGS wrote:I would not do this this year. I would make Gallo available for a high draft pick if we could land Kanter. D Walsh has done this before. I think Kanter might be the next Tim Duncan.

and AR the next KG?

sorry briggs had to get that one in..

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1/8/2011  12:29 PM
Lets not get carried away here, if there something that makes us better, then everybody outside of amre can go.

If there was a trade that would bring Deron williams here, then feltons a wrap. saying one is more expendable then the other is not fair. thats why i'm glad we have a coach and GM on the same page as well as a bIG man and PG with the same common goal and heart.

You have to look at those 4 elements to figure out why we have been successful, Guys have excepted there roles and they get along off the court. It only takes one bad apple guys to f**k this thing up.

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1/8/2011  12:32 PM
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:how about this.. since chandler pretty much was non existent last night until garbage time, shooting 3-9 before then, and we still blew the suns out.. How about get rid of chandler.. maybe he is now expendable? give that a thought? why is it that everytime a player has a decent game.. gallo is expendable.. hell I heard jerome jordan is playing well overseas.. gallo is expendable.. marbury had a good game in china.. gallo is expendable.. President Obama had a good game playing two on two vs the whitehouse staff and Gallo is now expendable..

Please.. enough with this.... it goes from one to the other.. chandler stunk last night, now we have to find someone else to make gallo expendable.. rofl.. wow..

Where did you get the idea from that TMS's comments here are just based on a 1 game sample?

so this is based on a season of playfrom both williams and walker who barely plays? if so then it is even more ridiculous than I thought.. and I guess you felt you were helping TMS with this post?

Where did you get the idea from that TMS's comments here are just based on a 1 year sample? (Same post but with "year" replacing "game"). Gallo's had a 3 year career. Why don't you just ask TMS what his sample is instead of making assumptions?

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1/8/2011  1:02 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
OldFan wrote:I like williams but I want a bigger sample before I'd make decisions based on his contribution.

I agree. That three point shot of his is looking silkier by the game but I see Gallo being more active, doing more of the little things. He drives a lot more. He also plays better D imo. Williams might be just getting started but its still too early to tell.

i also concur. williams has been a nice surprise but gallo, even though his scoring stats are down, is doing a lot more this year in becoming a complete player.

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1/8/2011  1:24 PM
Loving Williams so far. But, even if we're just looking at threes, and even if we disregard the small sample, you still have to see how he'll do when defenses start paying attention to him, as they have on Gallinari this year.
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