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Papabear
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1/7/2011  2:17 PM
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Carmelo Still Committed To Extension With Knicks Only If Traded
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Jan 07, 2011 1:55 PM EST

In a chat session, Chris Sheridan affirmed that Carmelo Anthony's current position is that he will only sign a contract extension, upon being traded, if Denver sends him to the Knicks.

Sheridan also reports that the Nets will not go through with a trade for Anthony unless he agrees to sign an extension with them.

"As I have reported before, the Nets will not do any 'Melo deal unless they are assured that he will sign the extension," wrote Sheridan. "And Melo is sticking to his guns that he will not sign an extension with any team, if traded, unless that team is the Knicks. That has been the case for more than a month, and it remains the case as of this very moment."

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/71002/20110107/carmelo_still_committed_to_extension_with_knicks_only_if_traded/#ixzz1ANXDxbhi

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1/7/2011  2:21 PM
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Damit! I left out the n on extension. LOL it's my computer

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1/7/2011  2:44 PM
Really Fat Albert Curry, all organizational contractual rights to Zeke, Fartbury and Spree's yacht timeshare.

Honestly, give them anyone (and everyone) except the starting 5. Yes, that means Gallo can go.
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1/7/2011  2:50 PM
What do you mean what should we give them? Barely anything, almost nothing. Leverage is ours, we're not running a charity here.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/7/2011  3:02 PM
if he's really only committed to signing an extension with the knicks then you give them nothing of value. i would not even give them AR.

take curry, azubuike and right to swap a couple picks in the future.
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1/7/2011  3:04 PM
FistOfOakley wrote:if he's really only committed to signing an extension with the knicks then you give them nothing of value. i would not even give them AR.

take curry, azubuike and right to swap a couple picks in the future.

yup yup yup
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1/7/2011  3:10 PM
I think you have to consider a small/medium token in order to acquire Melo if you ultimately intend to sign him if he becomes a FA next season. Reason being is you are going to sign him as a FA, and want to keep Chandler you will probably need to drop some pieces anyway. Also acquiring him via trade you also have the MLE to use next season to bolster the roster.
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1/7/2011  3:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/7/2011  3:12 PM
Andrew wrote:I think you have to consider a small/medium token in order to acquire Melo if you ultimately intend to sign him if he becomes a FA next season. Reason being is you are going to sign him as a FA, and want to keep Chandler you will probably need to drop some pieces anyway. Also acquiring him via trade you also have the MLE to use next season to bolster the roster.

True. Like the way you think.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/7/2011  3:12 PM
Give them AR, Curry and whatever else. If we can get a big man out of it somehow they can have Gallo as well.
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1/7/2011  3:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/7/2011  3:13 PM
So the question becomes, is Gallo a medium token?

I think he's much more than that. But...I see.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/7/2011  3:13 PM
I agree that if the facts are he will only sign an extension if traded to NYK, then we do hold all the leverage. However, what Denver can do is trade him to a team like Dallas for 30 cents on the dollar (especially that Bulter is done for the year) as a midseason rental. Dallas is one of the few teams that I think would definitely do that as they probably think once they bring him in house they can convince him to stay. Which may be true and something to consider.

Ultimately, we have to consider that we are not a championship contender this year, we will be a tough out in the playoffs no doubt, but not built for a championship. If he does decide to test the FA market despite CBA uncertainty, we would be able to sign him and retain much of the current roster which would IMHO be the best possible scenario.

Keeping in mind of course this still doesn't fulfill our biggest need which is a legit center...
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1/7/2011  3:16 PM
BE realistic.


Successful Trade Scenario
Trade ID #5802162

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +0.8 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and +1.6 apg.
Incoming Players
Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
24.4 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.1 apg in 35.4 minutes
J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
11.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 24.4 minutes

Outgoing Players
Knicks 2014 1st RD Pick
Knicks 2011 2rd RD Picks x 2
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Timofey Mozgov
0-0 C from
6.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 15.1 minutes
Kelenna Azubuike
6-5 SG from Kentucky
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Anthony Randolph
6-10 PF from LSU
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.5 apg in 21.0 minutes
Bill Walker
6-6 SF from Kansas State
7.5 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.5 minutes
Landry Fields
6-7 from Stanford
9.5 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.8 minutes
Denver Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -0.8 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and -1.6 apg.

Incoming Players
Knicks 2014 1st RD Pick
Knicks 2011 2rd RD Picks x 2
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Timofey Mozgov
0-0 C from
6.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 15.1 minutes
Kelenna Azubuike
6-5 SG from Kentucky
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Anthony Randolph
6-10 PF from LSU
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.5 apg in 21.0 minutes
Bill Walker
6-6 SF from Kansas State
7.5 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.5 minutes
Landry Fields
6-7 from Stanford
9.5 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
24.4 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.1 apg in 35.4 minutes
J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
11.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.0 apg in 24.4 minutes

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/#ixzz1ANlvuY1R
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1/7/2011  3:17 PM
Come on, bro, CHAOS. You can break that down into like two lines. What I gotta do, decipher syntax? Damn.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/7/2011  3:17 PM
Andrew wrote:I think you have to consider a small/medium token in order to acquire Melo if you ultimately intend to sign him if he becomes a FA next season. Reason being is you are going to sign him as a FA, and want to keep Chandler you will probably need to drop some pieces anyway. Also acquiring him via trade you also have the MLE to use next season to bolster the roster.

this is what i've been saying for the past few weeks... we can't offer some insulting package & expect to land him... u are looking at losing Wilson C or Gallo anyway if we wait til free agency, & AR is doing nothing for us... acquiring him via trade opens up other avenues for us to improve the roster, including the MLE, LLE & the use of Wilson's Bird Rights if we can swing a deal w/o including him... that is a much better way to improve the team than just waiting for free agency to land Melo & then losing Wilson & the use of our other exceptions in the process.

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1/7/2011  3:17 PM
C = STAT
PF = GALLO
SF = MELO
SG = WILL
PG = RAY

6th man is JR SMITH
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1/7/2011  3:18 PM
CHAOS wrote:C = STAT
PF = GALLO
SF = MELO
SG = WILL
PG = RAY

6th man is JR SMITH

I'm in.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/7/2011  3:19 PM
LOL, my bad Orange. Look, we give them AR, Landry, Timo, Walker, Buke, Curry and a future 1st top 5 protected and both of our 2nd rd picks this year for JR and Melo
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1/7/2011  3:20 PM
Take out Landry Fields. Smith is not a replacement for him at his salary. Fields adds too much and costs too little to just throw him in. We aren't trying to help the Nuggs so much as rob them of their franchise player.
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1/7/2011  3:20 PM
Now we can pay Melo and Wil and even JR if you want to because they are our players and we have their bird rights
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1/7/2011  3:21 PM
Moon we have to give something of value as respect between teams
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