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JohnWallace44
Posts: 25119 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/14/2005 Member: #910 USA |
1/6/2011 10:03 AM
You can't have Turiaf, Mozgov, Gallo, AR, a re-signed Mayor and Melo. You have to cut some of that out to make the numbers work unless you're signing a 19/7 guy to the league min salary.
Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Rookie
Posts: 27029 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
1/6/2011 10:19 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:You can't have Turiaf, Mozgov, Gallo, AR, a re-signed Mayor and Melo. You have to cut some of that out to make the numbers work unless you're signing a 19/7 guy to the league min salary. we will have cap room....the question is how much. From the quotes i read today, Walsh fully intends to sign wilson and pursue anthony in FA. Unchanged, that's what the roster would look like....but i think you can expect some tweaking from walsh to make it work. I quick glance will show...there's not enough minutes to go around...so, i think you can expect some minor changes. just looking at this and imaging either a big...or a small line-up and a 8-9 man rotation with some bench depth, there are still expendable pieces. |
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JohnWallace44
Posts: 25119 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/14/2005 Member: #910 USA |
1/6/2011 10:23 AM
Rookie, show us the math where all those guys fit even with Chandler signing a $6 million per contract. I'm telling you its not possible.
Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Rookie
Posts: 27029 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
1/6/2011 10:28 AM LAST EDITED: 1/6/2011 10:30 AM
John, you need to ask Walsh....it's his gameplan, i am just waiting to see how it unfolds and showing the pieces for discussion. I don't pretend to be an expert
i will say this though...i don't see how a sign and trade for anthony is possible after Curry's contract expires... |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/6/2011 10:52 AM LAST EDITED: 1/6/2011 10:55 AM
Or it could look like this--like to get this to nine with spots 10-14 minimum or draft pickslexibility
C-Deandre Jordan 6- 11 265
RIP Crushalot😞
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
1/6/2011 10:55 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Or it could look like this why do you hate Turiaf so much DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/6/2011 10:56 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Or it could look like this He seems like a jolly chap--nothing personal--I just dont think hes an elite level athlete. RIP Crushalot😞
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JohnWallace44
Posts: 25119 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/14/2005 Member: #910 USA |
1/6/2011 10:57 AM
OK, I'll do the work for you.
We're committed to $42 million in salaries next season. We're right at the cap level this year at $58 million. There's a $16 million gap there. Guess what the max starting salary is... $16 million. So you've got a couple of options. Also... another thing that's wrong with your post here. Williams is not signed through next season. He's going to want more than a shiny nickel to play here. Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Nalod
Posts: 71181 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
1/6/2011 11:00 AM
Supreme,
Turiaf could opt out. He earns 4.5mil. the problem is his minutes. He is a very physical player rather than strong fundamentally. That athletic prowess is what makes him a good player but on him its fragile. If he does not opt out he has a nice contract to trade with. Good team guy, brings some quality minutes. Nobody hates him but he is not a long term contract you want to have on the books. |
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SlimChin
Posts: 20588 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/5/2011 Member: #3363 |
1/6/2011 11:07 AM
Rookie wrote:Forwards - how are you going to have Melo on this team with Chandler, Gallo AND Fields??? c'mon now, let's be a little more realistic. |
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Rookie
Posts: 27029 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
1/6/2011 11:15 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:OK, I'll do the work for you. John, what is the deal with Turiaf and Walkers player options...which side of the equation are they on? Also, are you saying that the cap will stay the same and not increase...how do draft day deals affect the equation...basically, i'm not going to out smart the old master...i'm going to take him at his word and expect that he will put us in position to execute his plan..all i know is he is saying he will re-sign Will and i don't think the plan has changed in regards to going after Melo as a FA. From what i have seen...walsh means what he says and doesn't just throw out sound bites...he has also said that he isn't actively chasing any trades....he is positioning...he is the master...in the don we trust |
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Rookie
Posts: 27029 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
1/6/2011 11:22 AM
SlimChin wrote:Rookie wrote:Forwards - that is an excellent question...I think the only thing you can say for certain is that Felton, Amare and Melo would be starters...the rest is pieces that have to be worked out....kinda like what MDA has done every year....he tries different things to see what works best |
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
1/6/2011 11:28 AM
BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Or it could look like this Nalod wrote:Supreme, both fair points but neither take into account my Turiaf man crush DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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JohnWallace44
Posts: 25119 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 6/14/2005 Member: #910 USA |
1/6/2011 11:40 AM
Rookie wrote:basically, i'm not going to out smart the old master...i'm going to take him at his word and expect that he will put us in position to execute his plan..all i know is he is saying he will re-sign Will and i don't think the plan has changed in regards to going after Melo as a FA. From what i have seen...walsh means what he says and doesn't just throw out sound bites...he has also said that he isn't actively chasing any trades....he is positioning...he is the master...in the don we trust Well, if you take Don at his word, then he just told you one of two things... 1 - "We're committing to Chandler, Melo can go suck rocks. We'll use the leftover cap room to round out the roster into a contender with someone like Camby." 2 - "I want my cake and I want to eat it. I'm signing Chandler and trading everyone not named Amare or Felton for expirings in order to get Melo. I'll go to war next year with those four players, league min guys and draft picks." Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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SlimChin
Posts: 20588 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/5/2011 Member: #3363 |
1/6/2011 11:44 AM
i don't know about the whole roster, but how about this for starting five:
PG-Felton this is assuming that Wil and Gallo will be gone. |
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Rookie
Posts: 27029 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
1/6/2011 11:46 AM
should probably add...with Melo in the starting line-up...having Melo 'lite' as a 6th man would be a nice option...but with the mayor's ability to play the 2 and 4, it does give MDA plenty to work with. Also...if Gallo at 6'-10" could start to play the 4, there is another option for him as a starter to spread the floor.....the only real question I have is how MDA uses his centers. Considering the option of starting small and then bringing in a center off the bench to add defense for the second team is a definite possibilty....
Option 1 bench....wilson, douglass, Turiaf or Mozgoz and maybe even williams if they can find a way to keep him or Randolph Option 2 bench....Fields, douglass, Turiaf or Mozgoz and maybe even williams if they can find a way to keep him or Randolph Option 3 etc.............. |
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Rookie
Posts: 27029 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
1/6/2011 11:50 AM
SlimChin wrote:i don't know about the whole roster, but how about this for starting five: nice...but imagine that with Wil as the 6th man |
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SlimChin
Posts: 20588 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/5/2011 Member: #3363 |
1/6/2011 11:52 AM
Rookie wrote:SlimChin wrote:i don't know about the whole roster, but how about this for starting five: yeah that'd be nice but you're talking about a very expensive ($60 million dollar) 6th man. |
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Panos
Posts: 30087 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
1/6/2011 11:54 AM
Rookie wrote:should probably add...with Melo in the starting line-up...having Melo 'lite' as a 6th man would be a nice option...but with the mayor's ability to play the 2 and 4, it does give MDA plenty to work with. Also...if Gallo at 6'-10" could start to play the 4, there is another option for him as a starter to spread the floor.....the only real question I have is how MDA uses his centers. Considering the option of starting small and then bringing in a center off the bench to add defense for the second team is a definite possibilty.... Sub in Chandler for Fields on Option 3 and you have a deal. |