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Can Gallo become the 6th man we need?
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BRIGGS
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1/5/2011  1:49 PM
I think so. That would help mat out the formula going forward.

If we pencil in

C-Turriaf for now ? next year??
PF Stoudemire
F/G Chandler
F/G Fields
G Felton
6 Gallinari
7 Douglas
8 Williams


I think Gallo would be needed to play like a mobile 4 meaning he would need to provide just a touch more on the rebounding and interior play.

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1/5/2011  1:52 PM
If Gallinari is to become our 6th man, I see him more as a superstar Ginobili 6th than I do as a regular 6th.
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1/5/2011  1:54 PM
Not a bad idea but this would clog up the middle for Amare in the beginning of games. Like it or not, Gallo spreads the floor for Amare and Felton. I like Gallo starting but then again I am a big Gallo fan.
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1/5/2011  1:56 PM
Gallo would KILL in second unit.......

If we keep starting games off like we did last night while Gallo is gone
I say lets try it...

Either way Gallo gets 35 minutes a game!!

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1/5/2011  1:58 PM
A certain amount of agressiveness is required to be the 6th man. Gallo is more of a facilitator than a get yours type player. True, he did seem to go to the hole a bit more in his last game, but my 6th man needs to come in shooting from the scorer's table. Not hoping to warm up as the game goes on.
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1/5/2011  1:59 PM
It makes sense for either Gallo or Chandler to come off the bench.

The team is something like 6-1 when Ronny starts.

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1/5/2011  2:02 PM
I think Chandler would be the best option for 6th man. He's a better player than Gallo, but I think he's more of an asset off the bench because he can do so much more. One of the great things about yesterdays win was seeing how the Knicks faired with Felton and Amar'e out of the game. Chandler was there to be the go-to guy. I don't think Gallo can carry a unit by himself. He's more valuable as a spot up shotter for Amar'e to pass to out of the double team.

He wouldn't be bad but I think Chandler would be ideal in that role.
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1/5/2011  2:11 PM
Yeah, I said this a while ago. I like our line-up better with Turiaf as the starter, even if it's only for 15 minutes a game. This means Wilson, Gallo or Landry(move Chandler to the 2) has to come off the bench. I personally don't think it matters all that much but.....I prefer that 6 man to be an aggressive CONSISTENT scorer that bounces off the bench and provides shooting, scoring and energy from the get go. To me, Wilson fits that role better then Gallo but nothing says Gallo can't grow in to that.

To me Gallo is more of a facilitator then an aggressive scorer. While Wilson is the opposite. Also Gallo can be inconsistent so on some nights at least in the beginning you have to expect the air to be let out of the building when he bounds off the bench and goes 1 for his first 9. This is something Wilson does not do as much. If I were to move Gallo to the bench down the line I would rather have someone else as the 6 man(someone we aquire) that can be a spark plug and then have Gallo as the facilitator/leader/scorer as the 7th man. You pull that off and you have a great team.

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1/5/2011  2:19 PM
Chandler has all star ability and I think he is our best 1st Q player. Gallo tends to start games 0-3/1-4 etc.. coming in after watching part of the game and having more *interior* responsibility might be the best thing for Gallo--there was 67 bench minutes last night with turriaf getting 20 as a starter. That would break down as

Gallo -35
Williams -15
Douglas -17

We have not used Gallo as a sixth man yet. I really think it might be his best spot. He can come in--be aggressive in and out and have more responsibility to be a top scoring threat off the bench--right now I think hes a 4th wheel. Chandler just fits better with he starting unit.

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1/5/2011  2:20 PM
Bippity10 wrote:Yeah, I said this a while ago. I like our line-up better with Turiaf as the starter, even if it's only for 15 minutes a game. This means Wilson, Gallo or Landry(move Chandler to the 2) has to come off the bench. I personally don't think it matters all that much but.....I prefer that 6 man to be an aggressive CONSISTENT scorer that bounces off the bench and provides shooting, scoring and energy from the get go. To me, Wilson fits that role better then Gallo but nothing says Gallo can't grow in to that.

To me Gallo is more of a facilitator then an aggressive scorer. While Wilson is the opposite. Also Gallo can be inconsistent so on some nights at least in the beginning you have to expect the air to be let out of the building when he bounds off the bench and goes 1 for his first 9. This is something Wilson does not do as much. If I were to move Gallo to the bench down the line I would rather have someone else as the 6 man(someone we aquire) that can be a spark plug and then have Gallo as the facilitator/leader/scorer as the 7th man. You pull that off and you have a great team.

If Mike sticks with this SL, then I would tend to agree. Gallo would have to show that he can come in and be aggressive, but I tend to agree that this isn't his personality. He seems to prefer to be in the flow rather than take aggressive control. That's fine, but you still want a guy that has a gunner attitude to be your 6th man.

Ever since Chan was put in the SL, the bench has sagged considerably. We can't expect Gallo to just change into a guy that has more of a selfish game. Maybe he can do, it, but i've never seen any evidence of it. A guy like Stephen Jackson would be perfect for that kind of role. Meaning you have to have that kind of mentality.
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1/5/2011  2:21 PM
Bippity10 wrote:If I were to move Gallo to the bench down the line I would rather have someone else as the 6 man(someone we aquire) that can be a spark plug and then have Gallo as the facilitator/leader/scorer as the 7th man. You pull that off and you have a great team.

Mayo would be nice in that role. Or Melo

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1/5/2011  2:35 PM
i think Wilson is better suited to come off the bench than Gallo is... Wilson has more versatility in his game & can be utilized in the low post when Amare goes to the bench.... Gallo is more of a floor spacer & would probably be better playing w/Amare at the same time... we are 5-1 with Wilson coming off the bench as the 6th man & Turiaf starting games.
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1/5/2011  2:36 PM
Having Chandler go to the second unit with the coaching instructions of "destroy the opposition's second unit" really did wonders for his game. I'd love to see the same for Gallo, with him being on the second unit a temporary role
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1/5/2011  2:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I think so. That would help mat out the formula going forward.

If we pencil in

C-Turriaf for now ? next year??
PF Stoudemire
F/G Chandler
F/G Fields
G Felton
6 Gallinari
7 Douglas
8 Williams


I think Gallo would be needed to play like a mobile 4 meaning he would need to provide just a touch more on the rebounding and interior play.

I think that's a stretch Briggs, I don't believe Turriaf can stay healthy that long, and I don't believe he is who we need in the playoffs. We saw what happened when teams go big on us. If Moz isn't the answer for the time being, the Knicks need to add another big man. Not to mention a guard. Would like to have more weapons to throw at an opposing team from the backup G/PG position.
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1/5/2011  2:39 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Chandler has all star ability and I think he is our best 1st Q player. Gallo tends to start games 0-3/1-4 etc.. coming in after watching part of the game and having more *interior* responsibility might be the best thing for Gallo--there was 67 bench minutes last night with turriaf getting 20 as a starter. That would break down as

Gallo -35
Williams -15
Douglas -17

We have not used Gallo as a sixth man yet. I really think it might be his best spot. He can come in--be aggressive in and out and have more responsibility to be a top scoring threat off the bench--right now I think hes a 4th wheel. Chandler just fits better with he starting unit.

All star ability has nothing to do with it. Ginobli had all-star ability and he had no problem coming off teh bench. I'm not worried about the ability of the guy as my six man as long as he is good. This is not a demotion for whoever is placed in this role. It's actually one of the most important roles on any team.

Now we have no idea how Gallo would respond. He may be great in this role, but I'm just looking at what is presented to me. Wilson came off the bench ready to go. He provided energy and instant scoring and he made Toney Douglas a better player. Gallo we agree is a slow starter. Now we are asking him to sit for 6,7, 8, 9 minutes and then try to get in the flow. With his slow starts your first Gallo sighting(in terms of production) may not come until somewhere midway/late into the second quarter right when he is about ready to go to the bench again to sit for another 5-10 minutes. then we have to hope he somehow doesn't start the 2nd half the same way.

Again, it doesn't matter which of the two comes off the bench in my view. They are both talented scorers. Gallo could very well embrace that responsibility like you said and become a great six man. It's very possible. But based on what I've seen, I think Wilson is a better fit for the role.

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1/5/2011  2:41 PM
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:If I were to move Gallo to the bench down the line I would rather have someone else as the 6 man(someone we aquire) that can be a spark plug and then have Gallo as the facilitator/leader/scorer as the 7th man. You pull that off and you have a great team.

Mayo would be nice in that role. Or Melo

You get me Melo in that role and I call Championship

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1/5/2011  2:44 PM
Gallo is not the instant offense you want off the bench.
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1/5/2011  2:47 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Gallo is not the instant offense you want off the bench.

agreed... some games it takes him until the 3rd quarter to get going... that's not what you want as your 6th man energizer off the bench.

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MSG3 wrote:I think Chandler would be the best option for 6th man. He's a better player than Gallo, but I think he's more of an asset off the bench because he can do so much more. One of the great things about yesterdays win was seeing how the Knicks faired with Felton and Amar'e out of the game. Chandler was there to be the go-to guy. I don't think Gallo can carry a unit by himself. He's more valuable as a spot up shotter for Amar'e to pass to out of the double team.

He wouldn't be bad but I think Chandler would be ideal in that role.

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Chandler don't want to be a 6th man. That is like a demotion for both him and Gallo. I believe Chandler would go to a good team and start.

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1/5/2011  3:21 PM
I think he would be fine coming off the bench, especially if he is given a bit more latitude in terms of his offensive game.

He would still get his 30 MPG, and probably have more scoring opportunities.

Might even be something for MDA to do as he works him back into the lineup.

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