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Gallinari being out 2-3 weeks is the perfect time for AR to get a look
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1/3/2011  5:57 PM
obviously Ronny will start and MDA will move Wilson over to the three.

but we know Ronny can't play 40 minutes a night or he'll break down.

Now is the time to play Anthony Randolph.

MDA, Please play Anthony Randolph.

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1/3/2011  6:07 PM
The AR thing needs to be put to rest because he will never play meaningful minutes for Mike.

The guys who will get Gallo's minutes are Shawne Williams and Bill Walker.

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1/3/2011  6:47 PM
I agree that AR should get a second look. We're also facing a lot of taller teams out in this Western team opponent stretch.
Could be a great mini test for AR to see if he can prove himself.
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1/3/2011  6:51 PM
I don't think Turiaf can play that many minutes with his knee and shoulder. If Gallo is out for a significant amount of time I think Turiaf will break down pretty quickly.
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1/3/2011  7:03 PM
If D'Antoni lets AR play, it will probably be done gradually, no matter what the situation. Doesn't sound like he trusts him one bit. AR is going to have to earn his trust, probably fast.
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1/3/2011  7:09 PM
If AR is playing crappy in practice don't think for a second that MDA will play him for even a minute. He has to earn his way back. It's not a grudge from MDA.
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1/3/2011  7:10 PM
AR has to prove to me, and Coach Mike, that he's game worthy. He hasn't proven that yet.
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1/3/2011  7:50 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:If AR is playing crappy in practice don't think for a second that MDA will play him for even a minute. He has to earn his way back. It's not a grudge from MDA.

Maybe. But this is also the MDA who benched Nate for a month for that shot he took at his own basket against New Jersey.

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1/3/2011  9:11 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:If AR is playing crappy in practice don't think for a second that MDA will play him for even a minute. He has to earn his way back. It's not a grudge from MDA.

Maybe. But this is also the MDA who benched Nate for a month for that shot he took at his own basket against New Jersey.

What was wrong in that?

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1/3/2011  9:12 PM
You know I can't believe I just though of this *possible* comparison, but maybe AR is a bit like Camby in the sense that Camby to was a disappointment when he first came to the Knicks. Anyone recall this? The Knicks were having a bad year in 99 and then out of nowhere Camby turned into a beast during he playoffs. Hopefully if Mike is forced to give him minutes he'll embrace it by doing the little things that matter most in games. It's obvious he had the potential. He just has to relax out there.

I do think that he and/or Mozgov are going to get minutes in Gallo's absence. Hopefully he makes the most of it.

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1/3/2011  9:51 PM
If MDA is holding him out for any reason other than his suck-*** play, then we have a real problem. I suspect AR isn't playing because he is more of a liability on the floor than on the bench. If/when he gets minutes it will be because the Knicks brain-trust have determined he is ready to contribute. Hell, this is a business and this team is heading to the playoffs. It ain't no time to be effing around with personality clashes.

I hope AR gets some burn the next three weeks, too. But I'd rather go at least .500 over that same period. How many minutes can AR play and we retain a legitimate shot at .500? I bet we see Moz out there before AR. At least he was showing some promising defensive signs early on. He can probably handle boards, boxing out and blocking shots. Turiaf isn't exactly dropping a dime on any teams.

I agree that scorers like Williams and Walker will get the bulk of Gallo's minutes. They have proven themselves to be reliable (Walker last year).

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1/3/2011  9:52 PM
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crzymdups wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:If AR is playing crappy in practice don't think for a second that MDA will play him for even a minute. He has to earn his way back. It's not a grudge from MDA.

Maybe. But this is also the MDA who benched Nate for a month for that shot he took at his own basket against New Jersey.

What was wrong in that?

Nothing would be wrong with that if that was who he is. You can't be a laid back players coach and then react in a manner totally out of character. He isn't a disciplinarian and he is a poor communicator. Your talking about the coach that was afraid to approach and confront Amare when he was in Phoenix because he wanted to avoid conflict. There was a lot of coverage last year about guys that the coach never communicated with about their situation. D'Antoni has players that he favors and guys that he has no use for. I don't think Randolph has a chance at earning his trust in practice or in a game. I don't think it matters what he does in practice. I could be wrong but I think the first time I saw D'Antoni scream at Randolph was in the Milan game. I think the writing was on the wall very early on in their relationship. Walsh needs to intervene either by trading Randolph or letting D'Antoni know that he considers him a part of the future and that he isn't leaving and that it is time to start working with him not discarding him. I am pretty sure Walsh isn't going to tell D'Antoni how to run his team so my guess is the outcome is Randolph gets traded and blows up on another team.
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1/3/2011  10:11 PM
Moonangie wrote:If MDA is holding him out for any reason other than his suck-*** play, then we have a real problem. I suspect AR isn't playing because he is more of a liability on the floor than on the bench. If/when he gets minutes it will be because the Knicks brain-trust have determined he is ready to contribute. Hell, this is a business and this team is heading to the playoffs. It ain't no time to be effing around with personality clashes.

I hope AR gets some burn the next three weeks, too. But I'd rather go at least .500 over that same period. How many minutes can AR play and we retain a legitimate shot at .500? I bet we see Moz out there before AR. At least he was showing some promising defensive signs early on. He can probably handle boards, boxing out and blocking shots. Turiaf isn't exactly dropping a dime on any teams.

I agree that scorers like Williams and Walker will get the bulk of Gallo's minutes. They have proven themselves to be reliable (Walker last year).


I too would think that W & W will get most of his minutes.

Assuming that one of Gallo's functions is to open up the middle because of his outside shooting, which is something that you don't want Randolph trying to do, I would not mind seeing Rautins playing a few minutes at SG with Wilson at SF, Amare at PF and Turiaf at the 5.

And yes, I would hope that Randolph is given some minutes. Hopefully he gets an opportunity and shows he is worthy of regular minutes in the rotation.

Williams should be the most interesting player to watch over the next 10 games, though. He might see Gallo's injury as an opportunity to prove himself to the Knicks, or any other team watching the us and looking to make a trade with them. (the same may be true for Randolph, also)

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1/3/2011  10:25 PM
If he doesn't play now he's probably never gonna play.
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1/3/2011  10:39 PM
considering MDA likes to go with an 8 man rotation, i don't think AR is gonna get off the bench even if Gallo is out... right now Walker is clearly ahead of him in the rotation, so we'll probably see Turiaf go back to being a starter & Shawne Williams, Toney Douglas & Bill Walker coming off the bench... if Turiaf goes down we might see AR get some run, but then again he might decide to play Mozgov instead... it's hard to project any kind of chance AR has to get run here w/the way things have been since he got here.
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1/3/2011  10:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/3/2011  11:00 PM
There's probably a better chance of seeing more Mozgov minutes than AR. I think we lose a lot of important size without Gallo in the lineup, and so playing Mozgov may be the only way to make up for that, since AR is in the doghouse. If we go ultra small instead, I think we're going to be in serious trouble.
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1/4/2011  12:10 AM
If Turiaf starts, we need a big off the bench. The only big off the bench worth looking at is AR.

Shawne Williams and Bill Walker are both playing well. They are not bigs.

We need another big. PLAY AR.

Say it with me: PLAY AR.

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1/4/2011  2:15 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/4/2011  2:16 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:If AR is playing crappy in practice don't think for a second that MDA will play him for even a minute. He has to earn his way back. It's not a grudge from MDA.

Maybe. But this is also the MDA who benched Nate for a month for that shot he took at his own basket against New Jersey.

What was wrong in that?

Nothing would be wrong with that if that was who he is. You can't be a laid back players coach and then react in a manner totally out of character. He isn't a disciplinarian and he is a poor communicator. Your talking about the coach that was afraid to approach and confront Amare when he was in Phoenix because he wanted to avoid conflict. There was a lot of coverage last year about guys that the coach never communicated with about their situation. D'Antoni has players that he favors and guys that he has no use for. I don't think Randolph has a chance at earning his trust in practice or in a game. I don't think it matters what he does in practice. I could be wrong but I think the first time I saw D'Antoni scream at Randolph was in the Milan game. I think the writing was on the wall very early on in their relationship. Walsh needs to intervene either by trading Randolph or letting D'Antoni know that he considers him a part of the future and that he isn't leaving and that it is time to start working with him not discarding him. I am pretty sure Walsh isn't going to tell D'Antoni how to run his team so my guess is the outcome is Randolph gets traded and blows up on another team.

That shot was the straw that broke the back. MDA was being driven crazy by Nate long before that b/c of the poor defense and decision making along with the attitude and stupidity.

That benching was well justified. I believed it while it was happening and I stand by it now. Heck... Nate should have been benched for 40 games long before that... like when LB was the coach.

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1/4/2011  8:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/4/2011  8:41 AM
orangeblobman wrote:AR has to prove to me, and Coach Mike, that he's game worthy. He hasn't proven that yet.

And how does he do that exactly? Get through 1 practice completely mistake free (which I doubt any of our players do -- Gallo, Ray, Amar'e etc..You mean to tell me Ray Felton never throws an errant pass in practice?? TD especially -- you mean to tell me TD never misses an assignment in practice?? Douglas makes mistakes all over the joint)?? And then what will it be if he somehow accomplishes that? Get through 5 practices mistake-free? 10? 15? 20? Nah, this guy showed me that he was already game ready before he even got to NY. I refuse to give Mike a pass on this kid -- AR should've been made to feel comfortable & welcome the moment he got here and incorporated into the scheme of things right away or as soon as he was ready after that minor ankle injury (which only kept him out of the first few games).

It's never too late though -- Dan D'Antoni said a few weeks ago that he actually was playing well in practice & will get another shot somewhere along the way, that it's a long season and things change, guys get hurt, etc..Well, we now have a major frontcourt player hurt, out 2-3 weeks..Randolph's gotta see some time now, for the good of the team..I know he won't though -- Mike will continue to go on without him, subborn & spiteful as ever, acting like he's not even there even though he's got the talent to be a huge difference maker/X-factor for us..Fans are just supposed to swallow the fact that our team's full potential is not being realized and may never be this season..Sad.

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1/4/2011  9:05 AM
Finestrg wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:AR has to prove to me, and Coach Mike, that he's game worthy. He hasn't proven that yet.

And how does he do that exactly? Get through 1 practice completely mistake free (which I doubt any of our players do -- Gallo, Ray, Amar'e etc..You mean to tell me Ray Felton never throws an errant pass in practice?? TD especially -- you mean to tell me TD never misses an assignment in practice?? Douglas makes mistakes all over the joint)?? And then what will it be if he somehow accomplishes that? Get through 5 practices mistake-free? 10? 15? 20? Nah, this guy showed me that he was already game ready before he even got to NY. I refuse to give Mike a pass on this kid -- AR should've been made to feel comfortable & welcome the moment he got here and incorporated into the scheme of things right away or as soon as he was ready after that minor ankle injury (which only kept him out of the first few games).

It's never too late though -- Dan D'Antoni said a few weeks ago that he actually was playing well in practice & will get another shot somewhere along the way, that it's a long season and things change, guys get hurt, etc..Well, we now have a major frontcourt player hurt, out 2-3 weeks..Randolph's gotta see some time now, for the good of the team..I know he won't though -- Mike will continue to go on without him, subborn & spiteful as ever, acting like he's not even there even though he's got the talent to be a huge difference maker/X-factor for us..Fans are just supposed to swallow the fact that our team's full potential is not being realized and may never be this season..Sad.

It's more a mental thing, he has to understand, he has to dig it. My algebra teacher in 7th grade told me that this abstract thinking that was required in her class will just click at some point, that it hasn't clicked for some of her students. But it will click and you will dig it. So AR4's thinking has to click and he will be balling hard.

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Gallinari being out 2-3 weeks is the perfect time for AR to get a look

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