Amar'e and Howard cancel out.
Felton and Nelson =
Chandler and Bass + for the Knicks
Gallo and Turk =
Fields and Richardson + for the Magic

But then they start to separate from us -
Arenas, Reddick and Anderson is just a good bit better than TD, Williams and Turiaf

STill it's a very interesting comparison. What kind of deal would put us over the top against them?

JrZyHuStLa wrote:A Melo deal.

Yeah but if you look at their roster, the Magic's bench is still just a bit better with Arenas coming in. We trade for Melo we still need to get someone to rebound. I'm curious what kind of deal we can make for a rebounder so that if we do add Melo, we have also filled our other hole.

scoshin wrote:Comparison just comes down to this:

Orlando has size.

NYK don't.

You can't win against the elite without it.

Who else do they really have besides Howard? Our two teams are almost exactly the same. The difference isn't the size it's the fact that they have rebounding and we don't! Amar'e is not a great rebounder and neither is anyone else on our entire roster. We don't have one guy that is really a bigtime rebounder. We get rebounds, but not against real rebounders. To me that's the biggest difference. If you added Verajao or Camby to this mix we have it would be a completely different story.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

scoshin wrote:Comparison just comes down to this:

Orlando has size.

NYK don't.

You can't win against the elite without it.

Who else do they really have besides Howard? Our two teams are almost exactly the same. The difference isn't the size it's the fact that they have rebounding and we don't! Amar'e is not a great rebounder and neither is anyone else on our entire roster. We don't have one guy that is really a bigtime rebounder. We get rebounds, but not against real rebounders. To me that's the biggest difference. If you added Verajao or Camby to this mix we have it would be a completely different story.

They have a great bench. Anderson, Redick and Arenas are a great bench. I think Duhon and Q would get minutes on the Knicks and they didn't see the court tonight. I think of the Magic as an elite team and a championship contender. I think the Knicks are a playoff team now. I also think this Knicks team has enough character in the locker room where they could take on an Arenas or another talent that might have some issues. Those are huge jumps from a year ago.

The Magic basically did what we have been talking about doing. They didn't Bolster their D, they added more power to their scoring. They extended their talent so that the 8 best players they have are really high quality.

I think we actually should improve the D in getting another Big that can really board and defend, plus looking for a scorer like maybe Mayo. I think we can score with anyone, it's the rebounding that bothers me.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

nixluva wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:A Melo deal.

Yeah but if you look at their roster, the Magic's bench is still just a bit better with Arenas coming in. We trade for Melo we still need to get someone to rebound. I'm curious what kind of deal we can make for a rebounder so that if we do add Melo, we have also filled our other hole.

Getting Melo instantly makes us better by giving us more star power, compared to only Howard being the only star on Orlando.

I understand we still need a big if/when we get Melo. But us having more firepower in the starting lineup is more powerful than Orlando having a deeper bench.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

fishmike wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

nixluva wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:A Melo deal.

Yeah but if you look at their roster, the Magic's bench is still just a bit better with Arenas coming in. We trade for Melo we still need to get someone to rebound. I'm curious what kind of deal we can make for a rebounder so that if we do add Melo, we have also filled our other hole.

Getting Melo instantly makes us better by giving us more star power, compared to only Howard being the only star on Orlando.

I understand we still need a big if/when we get Melo. But us having more firepower in the starting lineup is more powerful than Orlando having a deeper bench.

Knicks are #1 scoring team in the league!!!! Pull your head out of the sand. They lose because they are small, get beat on the boards and cant defend the post. Is Melo playing center?

Find where in my posts I've said I don't want a big man who rebounds and defends.

Melo is great talent, and I would have trade every first rounder for 10 years if we could have had him next to Ewing in the 90s, but this current Knick team doesnt need him and he's not an MVP caliber player you give everything up for.

You trade Chandler/Gallo/Fields for Melo does that even make you better? Not to mention your probably taking Harrington back in the deal.

Knicks have some good young players. Now is the time to let them develop. If you want to make a run this year then upgrade the frontcourt. Melo doesnt make you better than the Heat or the Magic or the Celtics.

If we get Melo the future is in Jerome Jordan's hands. He's not worth $20mm a year.

Go get me OK4

Melo doesnt make you better than the Heat or the Magic or the Celtics.