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MaulingandAppalling
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12/28/2010  3:15 PM
I realize this is probably a stupid question, but: for watching MSG HD, or other sports in HD (NFL, NBA on TNT/ESPN), does it make a difference if I get a 720p or 1080p tv? I don't really care about BlueRay etc, just watching NBA and NFL on cable tv in HD. If there is effectively no difference between 720 and 1080 for this, I might just get a 720 because stores are basically giving them away now. Thanks for any thoughts.
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12/28/2010  3:18 PM
it mostly depends on the signal the provider puts out. most (like msg) send their signal at 720. there is a bit of a difference in clarity btwn 720 and 1080, but nothing to be worried about for just watching sports.

how much diffeence in cost of tv? if its nominal, then go w 1080.

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12/28/2010  3:19 PM
MaulingandAppalling wrote:I realize this is probably a stupid question, but: for watching MSG HD, or other sports in HD (NFL, NBA on TNT/ESPN), does it make a difference if I get a 720p or 1080p tv? I don't really care about BlueRay etc, just watching NBA and NFL on cable tv in HD. If there is effectively no difference between 720 and 1080 for this, I might just get a 720 because stores are basically giving them away now. Thanks for any thoughts.
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stores give them away because you may get pixelation issues with fast paced sporting events. no such drama with the 1080p FTW!

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12/28/2010  3:21 PM
jimimou wrote:it mostly depends on the signal the provider puts out. most (like msg) send their signal at 720. there is a bit of a difference in clarity btwn 720 and 1080, but nothing to be worried about for just watching sports.

how much diffeence in cost of tv? if its nominal, then go w 1080.

cerealy jim who the F are you to give 1080 advice go away.

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12/28/2010  3:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2010  3:26 PM
cheers wrote:
MaulingandAppalling wrote:I realize this is probably a stupid question, but: for watching MSG HD, or other sports in HD (NFL, NBA on TNT/ESPN), does it make a difference if I get a 720p or 1080p tv? I don't really care about BlueRay etc, just watching NBA and NFL on cable tv in HD. If there is effectively no difference between 720 and 1080 for this, I might just get a 720 because stores are basically giving them away now. Thanks for any thoughts.
Mauling

stores give them away because you may get pixelation issues with fast paced sporting events. no such drama with the 1080p FTW!

You know pixelation is caused by the feed from your TV provider right?

720P vs 1080p depends on what screen size you are getting. If you are getting a 32 in TV I doubt you will notice a difference. Also no provider broadcasts in 1080P anyway. The highest is 1080i.

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12/28/2010  3:24 PM
from what i know about it, HD on cable is broadcast in up to 1080i... u only get full 1080p resolution with digitally mastered bluray or hd dvd at this point.

depending on the size of the screen u wanna get, it might not make sense to invest in a full 1080p resolution if u don't plan on watching bluray (but i would highly suggest u go that route cuz bluray is the bomb dizzle!)... if u'r ok w/a smaller screen like 40 inches or lower, u can probably get away with 720p & not notice much of a difference at all... but if u go with a larger screen then if i were u i would definitely want to invest in a full HD resolution... just my $.02

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12/28/2010  3:24 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
cheers wrote:
MaulingandAppalling wrote:I realize this is probably a stupid question, but: for watching MSG HD, or other sports in HD (NFL, NBA on TNT/ESPN), does it make a difference if I get a 720p or 1080p tv? I don't really care about BlueRay etc, just watching NBA and NFL on cable tv in HD. If there is effectively no difference between 720 and 1080 for this, I might just get a 720 because stores are basically giving them away now. Thanks for any thoughts.
Mauling

stores give them away because you may get pixelation issues with fast paced sporting events. no such drama with the 1080p FTW!

You know pixelation is caused by the feed from your TV provider right?

you trying to tell me my time warner cable provider is complete trash i agree.

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12/28/2010  3:25 PM
cheers wrote:
jimimou wrote:it mostly depends on the signal the provider puts out. most (like msg) send their signal at 720. there is a bit of a difference in clarity btwn 720 and 1080, but nothing to be worried about for just watching sports.

how much diffeence in cost of tv? if its nominal, then go w 1080.

cerealy clearly jim who the F are you to give 1080 advice go away.

fixed it for you. grammer afterall is important.

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12/28/2010  3:27 PM
TMS wrote:from what i know about it, HD on cable is broadcast in up to 1080i... u only get full 1080p resolution with digitally mastered bluray or hd dvd at this point.

depending on the size of the screen u wanna get, it might not make sense to invest in a full 1080p resolution if u don't plan on watching bluray (but i would highly suggest u go that route cuz bluray is the bomb dizzle!)... if u'r ok w/a smaller screen like 40 inches or lower, u can probably get away with 720p & not notice much of a difference at all... but if u go with a larger screen then if i were u i would definitely want to invest in a full HD resolution... just my $.02

I edited my post but you summed up everything I said.

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12/28/2010  3:29 PM
TMS wrote:from what i know about it, HD on cable is broadcast in up to 1080i... u only get full 1080p resolution with digitally mastered bluray or hd dvd at this point.

depending on the size of the screen u wanna get, it might not make sense to invest in a full 1080p resolution if u don't plan on watching bluray (but i would highly suggest u go that route cuz bluray is the bomb dizzle!)... if u'r ok w/a smaller screen like 40 inches or lower, u can probably get away with 720p & not notice much of a difference at all... but if u go with a larger screen then if i were u i would definitely want to invest in a full HD resolution... just my $.02

what tms is trying to say get 1080p then remember this extension .mkv and if you happen by pure accident to find your favorite movies, shows, and games in .mkv online in say something called a torrent. then you will save a lot more than $.02 while enjoying pure digital quality.

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12/28/2010  3:30 PM
jimimou wrote:
cheers wrote:
jimimou wrote:it mostly depends on the signal the provider puts out. most (like msg) send their signal at 720. there is a bit of a difference in clarity btwn 720 and 1080, but nothing to be worried about for just watching sports.

how much diffeence in cost of tv? if its nominal, then go w 1080.

cerealy clearly jim who the F are you to give 1080 advice go away.

fixed it for you. grammer afterall is important.

i was misspelling the word "seriously" ffs jim work with me!

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12/28/2010  3:32 PM
cheers wrote:
TMS wrote:from what i know about it, HD on cable is broadcast in up to 1080i... u only get full 1080p resolution with digitally mastered bluray or hd dvd at this point.

depending on the size of the screen u wanna get, it might not make sense to invest in a full 1080p resolution if u don't plan on watching bluray (but i would highly suggest u go that route cuz bluray is the bomb dizzle!)... if u'r ok w/a smaller screen like 40 inches or lower, u can probably get away with 720p & not notice much of a difference at all... but if u go with a larger screen then if i were u i would definitely want to invest in a full HD resolution... just my $.02

what tms is trying to say get 1080p then remember this extension .mkv and if you happen by pure accident to find your favorite movies, shows, and games in .mkv online in say something called a torrent. then you will save a lot more than $.02 while enjoying pure digital quality.

Torrents? HAHAHAHAHA

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12/28/2010  3:33 PM
I have both. Perhaps there are other factors but my 720 is not as good at my 1080 but the 720 looks damn good.

What is most important is the "FOR THE MONEY" factor. First off the tv is going to be better than what you had and everyone is different.

Make sure you have HD box and have the HD service. 720 is going to look great.

Im really into this stuff and help my friends build systems. Fun hobby.

There are no real answers. Side by side you'll notice a difference but my 720's in HD look good.

So if they are giving it away, go and get it! The only thing is 1. Budget and 2. will you be happy. You can always spend more and always be happier.

These things are easy to cross shop on spec. You have to compare plasma to plasma (still best bang for the money) vs LCD's vs LED's. Big thing to look for when watching sports is the refresh rate. Especially on basketball. Slow rate on a dirt cheap LCD or LED you will see whats called "ghosting" or "pixelizaton". Plasma's are less prone to this as the refresh rates are higher. Most 720's have lower refresh rates. Its a pirce thing.

Don't know where your shopping or your budget or how big, or how big your room is. I'd sacrifice size for quality. Smaller with clarity is always better than big and blurry. Go with plasma if they still have them. Problem is most stores have stopped carrying them.

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12/28/2010  3:34 PM
cheers wrote:
jimimou wrote:
cheers wrote:
jimimou wrote:it mostly depends on the signal the provider puts out. most (like msg) send their signal at 720. there is a bit of a difference in clarity btwn 720 and 1080, but nothing to be worried about for just watching sports.

how much diffeence in cost of tv? if its nominal, then go w 1080.

cerealy clearly jim who the F are you to give 1080 advice go away.

fixed it for you. grammer afterall is important.

i was misspelling the word "seriously" ffs jim work with me!

DAMMIT!

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12/28/2010  3:40 PM
Nalod wrote:I have both. Perhaps there are other factors but my 720 is not as good at my 1080 but the 720 looks damn good.

What is most important is the "FOR THE MONEY" factor. First off the tv is going to be better than what you had and everyone is different.

Make sure you have HD box and have the HD service. 720 is going to look great.

Im really into this stuff and help my friends build systems. Fun hobby.

There are no real answers. Side by side you'll notice a difference but my 720's in HD look good.

So if they are giving it away, go and get it! The only thing is 1. Budget and 2. will you be happy. You can always spend more and always be happier.

These things are easy to cross shop on spec. You have to compare plasma to plasma (still best bang for the money) vs LCD's vs LED's. Big thing to look for when watching sports is the refresh rate. Especially on basketball. Slow rate on a dirt cheap LCD or LED you will see whats called "ghosting" or "pixelizaton". Plasma's are less prone to this as the refresh rates are higher. Most 720's have lower refresh rates. Its a pirce thing.

Don't know where your shopping or your budget or how big, or how big your room is. I'd sacrifice size for quality. Smaller with clarity is always better than big and blurry. Go with plasma if they still have them. Problem is most stores have stopped carrying them.

I think most of that is irrelevant if he plans on hooking it up to a ****ty TWC signal.

Directv has SUPERIOR picture quality to me.

Now in regards to the the different panels I will say that lookng side by side in the store the Sony's, Panasonic's, and Samsang's look awesome. The thing is my Vizio looks awesome in a livingroom by itself. Unless your a videophile there is really no point in shelling out the extra cash for the high quality sets.

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12/28/2010  3:42 PM
A lot of these guys already made valid points.

Cable television is never broadcast in 1080p (not yet anyway), typically outputting in 720p and 1080i.
Regardless, I'm not surprised to hear that stores are practically giving away 720p television sets, as 1080p is really the hi-def standard these days.

Personally, I feel you should opt for a 1080p set as it is more future proof in regards to the 720p foothold into HD. But if you absolutely wouldn't consider utilizing Blu-ray tech in the next 1-8 years (PS3, etc.) then it may be in your best interest to just go for the 720p set to enjoy sports in high-def.

But a lot of 720p sets have shoddy refresh rates (difference between smooth animation or jerky frame rates) which is especially important for fast moving action such as sports games. More and more 1080p television sets are coming standard with 120 Hz and many with 240 Hz. Makes a world of a difference dude!

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12/28/2010  3:49 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Nalod wrote:I have both. Perhaps there are other factors but my 720 is not as good at my 1080 but the 720 looks damn good.

What is most important is the "FOR THE MONEY" factor. First off the tv is going to be better than what you had and everyone is different.

Make sure you have HD box and have the HD service. 720 is going to look great.

Im really into this stuff and help my friends build systems. Fun hobby.

There are no real answers. Side by side you'll notice a difference but my 720's in HD look good.

So if they are giving it away, go and get it! The only thing is 1. Budget and 2. will you be happy. You can always spend more and always be happier.

These things are easy to cross shop on spec. You have to compare plasma to plasma (still best bang for the money) vs LCD's vs LED's. Big thing to look for when watching sports is the refresh rate. Especially on basketball. Slow rate on a dirt cheap LCD or LED you will see whats called "ghosting" or "pixelizaton". Plasma's are less prone to this as the refresh rates are higher. Most 720's have lower refresh rates. Its a pirce thing.

Don't know where your shopping or your budget or how big, or how big your room is. I'd sacrifice size for quality. Smaller with clarity is always better than big and blurry. Go with plasma if they still have them. Problem is most stores have stopped carrying them.

I think most of that is irrelevant if he plans on hooking it up to a ****ty TWC signal.

Directv has SUPERIOR picture quality to me.

Now in regards to the the different panels I will say that lookng side by side in the store the Sony's, Panasonic's, and Samsang's look awesome. The thing is my Vizio looks awesome in a livingroom by itself. Unless your a videophile there is really no point in shelling out the extra cash for the high quality sets.

TWC is horrid. once one steps up their digital teevee game next step is looking beyond TWC. thank gods for the internets.

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12/28/2010  3:54 PM
OjilEye wrote:A lot of these guys already made valid points.

Cable television is never broadcast in 1080p (not yet anyway), typically outputting in 720p and 1080i.
Regardless, I'm not surprised to hear that stores are practically giving away 720p television sets, as 1080p is really the hi-def standard these days.

Personally, I feel you should opt for a 1080p set as it is more future proof in regards to the 720p foothold into HD. But if you absolutely wouldn't consider utilizing Blu-ray tech in the next 1-8 years (PS3, etc.) then it may be in your best interest to just go for the 720p set to enjoy sports in high-def.

But a lot of 720p sets have shoddy refresh rates (difference between smooth animation or jerky frame rates) which is especially important for fast moving action such as sports games. More and more 1080p television sets are coming standard with 120 Hz and many with 240 Hz. Makes a world of a difference dude!

the uk mafia have spoken. if you want to see flawless knicks wins and tina look really hot (when the knicks win) 1080 ftw.

of course not even 1080 can guarantee tina looking really hot when the knicks lose.

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12/28/2010  4:31 PM
OjilEye wrote:A lot of these guys already made valid points.

Cable television is never broadcast in 1080p (not yet anyway), typically outputting in 720p and 1080i.
Regardless, I'm not surprised to hear that stores are practically giving away 720p television sets, as 1080p is really the hi-def standard these days.

Personally, I feel you should opt for a 1080p set as it is more future proof in regards to the 720p foothold into HD. But if you absolutely wouldn't consider utilizing Blu-ray tech in the next 1-8 years (PS3, etc.) then it may be in your best interest to just go for the 720p set to enjoy sports in high-def.

But a lot of 720p sets have shoddy refresh rates (difference between smooth animation or jerky frame rates) which is especially important for fast moving action such as sports games. More and more 1080p television sets are coming standard with 120 Hz and many with 240 Hz. Makes a world of a difference dude!

good advice... i think generally u also wanna look for sets with a quicker response time to get consistent clarity... at least that's what the guy at Best Buy tells me.

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12/28/2010  4:33 PM
cheers wrote:
TMS wrote:from what i know about it, HD on cable is broadcast in up to 1080i... u only get full 1080p resolution with digitally mastered bluray or hd dvd at this point.

depending on the size of the screen u wanna get, it might not make sense to invest in a full 1080p resolution if u don't plan on watching bluray (but i would highly suggest u go that route cuz bluray is the bomb dizzle!)... if u'r ok w/a smaller screen like 40 inches or lower, u can probably get away with 720p & not notice much of a difference at all... but if u go with a larger screen then if i were u i would definitely want to invest in a full HD resolution... just my $.02

what tms is trying to say get 1080p then remember this extension .mkv and if you happen by pure accident to find your favorite movies, shows, and games in .mkv online in say something called a torrent. then you will save a lot more than $.02 while enjoying pure digital quality.

www.jizzhut.com works fine in standard resolution

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