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BRIGGS
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12/23/2010  1:10 AM
More and more impressive every time I watch him. He's only 22 and he's going to be putting up many games like this now that he will be getting extended minutes. Besides melo--if he keeps this up--he will become the 2nd best FA on the market because of position and age. The thing is LAC is already @ 50mm in payroll next year.
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12/23/2010  1:13 AM
I think after this year it is either Kaman or Jordan. My guess is the Clippers stick with Kaman. It will be interesting how the rest of the season goes. Kaman is just out of a walking boot.
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12/23/2010  1:16 AM
CrushAlot wrote:I think after this year it is either Kaman or Jordan. My guess is the Clippers stick with Kaman. It will be interesting how the rest of the season goes. Kaman is just out of a walking boot.

They will trade Kaman. He is injured often and not getting any younger.

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12/23/2010  6:49 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I think after this year it is either Kaman or Jordan. My guess is the Clippers stick with Kaman. It will be interesting how the rest of the season goes. Kaman is just out of a walking boot.

They will trade Kaman. He is injured often and not getting any younger.

Too bad he's on the hook for big money next year...If he was an expiring or if that contract was a little more favorable, I would've traded for him while he was hurt a couple of weeks ago, nursed him back and then I would've had my big guy next to Amar'e..Oh well..

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12/23/2010  11:01 AM
What's this dude's game?

How are his hands?

Smart? Can learn a system?

Shot outside of 5 feet?

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12/23/2010  11:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2010  11:17 AM
Dunno much other than he is doing great as a short term fantasy pickup for me. His game seems kinda Hakim Warrick-y. Dunks. Boards. Blocks.

Career 60% + from the field (mainly dunks I'm guessing) which he's maintained with increased minutes. Averaging 27 minutes per game in 12 games this month with Kaman out.

One red flag is that he appears to be super turnover prone still. He's 13th in the NBA in turnover ratio. ( the percentage of a player's possessions that end in a turnover)

31st in rebounding rate though (the percentage of missed shots that a player rebounds.) above guys like Pau, Boozer, DLee

Here's his draft express report (drafted in 2008)
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeAndre-Jordan-1072/

Las Vegas Summer League Day Six
July 17, 2008
Jordan had another solid showing today, particularly on the defensive end. With his athleticism and amazing standing reach, Jordan seems to have improved defensively since the start of the summer league. He blocked 5 shots today, and has started reacting more quickly with his help-side rotations. The big still appears to be quite raw on the offensive end of the floor, but has good enough hands to be a target for an easy dish from a penetrating guard. He has been working to develop a hook shot as well, but it will be a while before this shot translates to the NBA. Jordan may never develop into the star that many people pegged him as, but the rookie looks to have a very promising career as a rotation big at the least.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeAndre-Jordan-1072/#ixzz18x4fzdyM
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12/23/2010  11:11 AM
martin wrote:What's this dude's game?

How are his hands?

Smart? Can learn a system?

Shot outside of 5 feet?

He's a very athletic 6-11 foot 260 pound guy who plays a pure 5. I would say a poor mans Dwight Howard would be a comparison and working hard to improve that.

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12/23/2010  11:20 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2010  11:20 AM
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12/23/2010  11:40 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:What's this dude's game?

How are his hands?

Smart? Can learn a system?

Shot outside of 5 feet?

He's a very athletic 6-11 foot 260 pound guy who plays a pure 5. I would say a poor mans Dwight Howard would be a comparison and working hard to improve that.

good comparison with howard - he has a very similar physique. the rebounding and defense is there but his offense is much more behind the pace that howard was at, at similar age. i think jordan can become a very good 5.. he just needs time, we should definitely be looking to pick him up.

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12/23/2010  11:41 AM
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BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:What's this dude's game?

How are his hands?

Smart? Can learn a system?

Shot outside of 5 feet?

He's a very athletic 6-11 foot 260 pound guy who plays a pure 5. I would say a poor mans Dwight Howard would be a comparison and working hard to improve that.

good comparison with howard - he has a very similar physique. the rebounding and defense is there but his offense is much more behind the pace that howard was at, at similar age. i think jordan can become a very good 5.. he just needs time, we should definitely be looking to pick him up.

Can we get Hakeem to coach him too? Did wonders for Howards game this season.

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12/23/2010  11:43 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:What's this dude's game?

How are his hands?

Smart? Can learn a system?

Shot outside of 5 feet?

He's a very athletic 6-11 foot 260 pound guy who plays a pure 5. I would say a poor mans Dwight Howard would be a comparison and working hard to improve that.

good comparison with howard - he has a very similar physique. the rebounding and defense is there but his offense is much more behind the pace that howard was at, at similar age. i think jordan can become a very good 5.. he just needs time, we should definitely be looking to pick him up.

Do you actually think he will get run in the MDA system? I honestly think Jordan would get benched right next to AR.

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12/23/2010  11:48 AM
martin wrote:What's this dude's game?

How are his hands?

Smart? Can learn a system?

Shot outside of 5 feet?

absolutely not... LOL

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12/23/2010  11:55 AM
we should get him to either keep AR company on the bench or to replace AR's role of talented young guy who racks up dnp-cds....
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12/23/2010  2:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/23/2010  2:42 PM
Compare DeAndre Jordan to Jerome Jordan, our center we have stashed away in Serbia. JJ may not have the amount of sheer athleticism and brute force this guy has but he's no sloutch himself athletically and might have more refined offensive skills, even at this stage. JJ's a good 1" or 2 taller as well...See this is where a GM can't afford a misstep in the NBA -- this guy might wind up commanding MLE type money, maybe more...Do we give him that or use those funds for something else and sign and develop JJ instead next year? Tough decision..Could always have both but if J. Jordan's a player at the NBA level, DeAndre would be redundant a little no??? Maybe not -- you can never have enough size I suppose..

People that saw Jerome play for Tulsa and are also familiar with DeAndre Jordan with the Clippers: compare both as is..Who would you rather have if the roster took shape next summer in such a way that there was only enough room for one of the two?

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12/23/2010  2:49 PM
Finestrg wrote:Compare DeAndre Jordan to Jerome Jordan, our center we have stashed away in Serbia. JJ may not have the amount of sheer athleticism and brute force this guy has but he's no sloutch himself athletically and might have more refined offensive skills, even at this stage. JJ's a good 1" or 2 taller as well...See this is where a GM can't afford a misstep in the NBA -- this guy might wind up commanding MLE type money, maybe more...Do we give him that or use those funds for something else and sign and develop JJ instead next year? Tough decision..Could always have both but if J. Jordan's a player at the NBA level, DeAndre would be redundant a little no??? Maybe not -- you can never have enough size I suppose..

People that saw Jerome play for Tulsa and are also familiar with DeAndre Jordan with the Clippers: compare both as is..Who would you rather have if the roster took shape next summer in such a way that there was only enough room for one of the two?

Glad he went the Euroleague route. Best thing for his game and his on court toughness, IMO.

Has anyone heard whether or not he is in our plans for next year?

And for that matter, has anyone actually seen him play this year and compared his play in Europe to how he played in the SL?

Just wondering.

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12/23/2010  3:07 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Compare DeAndre Jordan to Jerome Jordan, our center we have stashed away in Serbia. JJ may not have the amount of sheer athleticism and brute force this guy has but he's no sloutch himself athletically and might have more refined offensive skills, even at this stage. JJ's a good 1" or 2 taller as well...See this is where a GM can't afford a misstep in the NBA -- this guy might wind up commanding MLE type money, maybe more...Do we give him that or use those funds for something else and sign and develop JJ instead next year? Tough decision..Could always have both but if J. Jordan's a player at the NBA level, DeAndre would be redundant a little no??? Maybe not -- you can never have enough size I suppose..

People that saw Jerome play for Tulsa and are also familiar with DeAndre Jordan with the Clippers: compare both as is..Who would you rather have if the roster took shape next summer in such a way that there was only enough room for one of the two?

Glad he went the Euroleague route. Best thing for his game and his on court toughness, IMO.

Has anyone heard whether or not he is in our plans for next year?

And for that matter, has anyone actually seen him play this year and compared his play in Europe to how he played in the SL?

Just wondering.

all his stats:

http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=SRB&PlayerID=105287

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12/23/2010  3:29 PM
DeAndre Jordan is still very raw... he's nowhere close to Dwight Howard, who has developed a low post game & improved his footwork tremendously since he's been in the league... Jordan gets most of his points off penetrate & dish from his PG & offensive putbacks, & other than dunking the ball, he really has no other offensive skills to speak of... he's a decent option off the bench to fill some minutes with a big body & work some in the PnR when Amare's resting, but he's got a long ways to go before you can consider him a viable starting option in any rotation, much less in a system like MDA's where he will be expected to be able to knock down a midrange jumper away from the post & make smart decisions w/the ball when it gets into his hands... personally i would be surprised if MDA would even want a player like him in his system, he doesn't seem skilled enough for the style of ball MDA likes to play... i like Jordan's potential but i have a hard time envisioning a player like him being high on MDA's wishlist.
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12/23/2010  4:07 PM
Finestrg wrote:Compare DeAndre Jordan to Jerome Jordan, our center we have stashed away in Serbia. JJ may not have the amount of sheer athleticism and brute force this guy has but he's no sloutch himself athletically and might have more refined offensive skills, even at this stage. JJ's a good 1" or 2 taller as well...See this is where a GM can't afford a misstep in the NBA -- this guy might wind up commanding MLE type money, maybe more...Do we give him that or use those funds for something else and sign and develop JJ instead next year? Tough decision..Could always have both but if J. Jordan's a player at the NBA level, DeAndre would be redundant a little no??? Maybe not -- you can never have enough size I suppose..

People that saw Jerome play for Tulsa and are also familiar with DeAndre Jordan with the Clippers: compare both as is..Who would you rather have if the roster took shape next summer in such a way that there was only enough room for one of the two?

I think it is difficult comparing an nBA player to a non NBA player. Last night DJordan had 14 points 13 rebounds 3 blocks 2 steals in the NBA. I know that D Jordan is leading the NBA in FG% and is now poised to take on more minutes--lets see what eh does over the next 50 games. Thats whats nice about FA--we can take a nice look.

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12/23/2010  4:08 PM
Marv wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Compare DeAndre Jordan to Jerome Jordan, our center we have stashed away in Serbia. JJ may not have the amount of sheer athleticism and brute force this guy has but he's no sloutch himself athletically and might have more refined offensive skills, even at this stage. JJ's a good 1" or 2 taller as well...See this is where a GM can't afford a misstep in the NBA -- this guy might wind up commanding MLE type money, maybe more...Do we give him that or use those funds for something else and sign and develop JJ instead next year? Tough decision..Could always have both but if J. Jordan's a player at the NBA level, DeAndre would be redundant a little no??? Maybe not -- you can never have enough size I suppose..

People that saw Jerome play for Tulsa and are also familiar with DeAndre Jordan with the Clippers: compare both as is..Who would you rather have if the roster took shape next summer in such a way that there was only enough room for one of the two?

Glad he went the Euroleague route. Best thing for his game and his on court toughness, IMO.

Has anyone heard whether or not he is in our plans for next year?

And for that matter, has anyone actually seen him play this year and compared his play in Europe to how he played in the SL?

Just wondering.

all his stats:

http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=SRB&PlayerID=105287

dude is averaging like 3 fouls in 15 minutes of play. IN EUROPE.

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12/23/2010  4:25 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Compare DeAndre Jordan to Jerome Jordan, our center we have stashed away in Serbia. JJ may not have the amount of sheer athleticism and brute force this guy has but he's no sloutch himself athletically and might have more refined offensive skills, even at this stage. JJ's a good 1" or 2 taller as well...See this is where a GM can't afford a misstep in the NBA -- this guy might wind up commanding MLE type money, maybe more...Do we give him that or use those funds for something else and sign and develop JJ instead next year? Tough decision..Could always have both but if J. Jordan's a player at the NBA level, DeAndre would be redundant a little no??? Maybe not -- you can never have enough size I suppose..

People that saw Jerome play for Tulsa and are also familiar with DeAndre Jordan with the Clippers: compare both as is..Who would you rather have if the roster took shape next summer in such a way that there was only enough room for one of the two?

I think it is difficult comparing an nBA player to a non NBA player. Last night DJordan had 14 points 13 rebounds 3 blocks 2 steals in the NBA. I know that D Jordan is leading the NBA in FG% and is now poised to take on more minutes--lets see what eh does over the next 50 games. Thats whats nice about FA--we can take a nice look.

Is he really a free agent next year? He s a second round pick coming off of a 3 year contract. Is he also protected by the Arenas rule sort of like how Fields will be? The Clippers might be trying to trade Barron Davis to free up cap space (doubt there are any takers, but...) as they are over 50 mill next year and probably want to resign him.

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