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They would get some playing time, problem is neither if them are like these two players and our coach has a hard time understanding how to use players properly and put them in the best positions to succeed(including Gallo/Chandler to an extent and Douglas(he wants him to be Barbosa). Our GM acquired 2 players possibly more who aren't D'AnToni type players. When you think about it D'AnToni tried to turn Jordan Hill(who's cracked Houston's rotation and looks good BTW), Effries, and Darko(who is a starting in Minny and looks good BTW) into these two players.

Hopefully those two become useful rotation players rather than players who become much better on other teams.

BTW somewhat related question was LB right when he called Ariza "delusional"? Looks like other than 1 good playoff run with the Lakers dude is just not that great..

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Juice wrote:Our GM acquired 2 players possibly more who aren't D'AnToni type players.

my thought is that the statement "they aren't D'AnToni type players" is wrong, it's that they are not ready to play ball at a level conducive to winning with the current team.

Jordan Hill kind of debunks this thought because the Rockets are beginning to win with him getting rotation minutes. Last year we were told he was a bad rookie by this very coach, probably because he wasn't Channing Frye of 2005-2006.

Dougie looks a thousand times worse than last year and I'm not buying this injury excuse with him. While I think he probably has some wear and tear it's no worse than guys playing through common injuries throughout the course of a season. It took over half a season for him to play Dougie last year. I don't think these are his kind of players. He's trying to turn into things they simply are not.

I mean seriously we heard reports upon reports upon reports about how different this team is compared to last year highlighting athleticism and yet Moz and AR hang out on the perimeter like they're Ray Allen when they are in games but most of the time eating Dave and Thomas popcorn from the bench.

Put them in positions to show off their athleticism oh wait they can't because Amar'e operates in this fashion so get out of his way so he can go 30 Moz and AR or better yet when coach play you guys... it'll be a mix of Walker/Shawne Williams/Mason/Douglas/AR/Moz....lol

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martin wrote:

Juice wrote:Our GM acquired 2 players possibly more who aren't D'AnToni type players.

my thought is that the statement "they aren't D'AnToni type players" is wrong, it's that they are not ready to play ball at a level conducive to winning with the current team.

Jordan Hill kind of debunks this thought because the Rockets are beginning to win with him getting rotation minutes. Last year we were told he was a bad rookie by this very coach, probably because he wasn't Channing Frye of 2005-2006.

Jordan Hill does not debunk anything.

He was crap during SL before his rookie season. He came into camp out of shape.... what does that show us?

Also, the bad rookie comment was shown to be out of context, MDA never referred to him as such.

He has gotten better, he is a season older. Good for him.

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martin wrote:

Juice wrote:

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:Our GM acquired 2 players possibly more who aren't D'AnToni type players.

my thought is that the statement "they aren't D'AnToni type players" is wrong, it's that they are not ready to play ball at a level conducive to winning with the current team.

Jordan Hill kind of debunks this thought because the Rockets are beginning to win with him getting rotation minutes. Last year we were told he was a bad rookie by this very coach, probably because he wasn't Channing Frye of 2005-2006.

Jordan Hill does not debunk anything.

He was crap during SL before his rookie season. He came into camp out of shape.... what does that show us?

Also, the bad rookie comment was shown to be out of context, MDA never referred to him as such.

He has gotten better, he is a season older. Good for him.

Shawne Williams was in shape since the start of camp according to Amar'e and according to coach busting 3s in practice for 2mos before he decided to play him. Duhon and Q were always out of shape yet he rode those horses into the ground.

dude, different scenarios. You expected MDA to sit the only PG on the roster for a month or 2 in duhon? at least come up with some realistic examples.

MDA did explain to all how he treated Shawne and I thought it was reasonable: He had Mason and Bill Walker in front of him that he wanted to exhaust and give those 2 guys chances. He also wanted to build trust with him. And now we see the results: Shawne was ready and coach was ready and all is pretty well between the 2.

ItalianStallion wrote:Anthony Randolph was jacking up jumpers for the Knicks because D'Antoni put him out on the perimeter and defenses (apparently not D'Antoni though) understood that's he's not a jump shooter at this stage in his career. So they gave him a ton of space. If we used AR properly he'd give us a minimum of 15 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 2 assists per 36 minutes. In other words, he'd be the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team. Hard to prove that though when the coach thinks anyone that can't hit 3s sucks and is unplayable.

It could be your right but...

AR has had two coaches. Neither has played him consistently. Could be the coaches but more likely it's the player at this point in his career.

I view AR as a project hopefully he'll live up to his potential someday but I haven't seen anything he's done this year or in his career that make me think MDA is making a mistake not playing him at this point.

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:Our GM acquired 2 players possibly more who aren't D'AnToni type players.

my thought is that the statement "they aren't D'AnToni type players" is wrong, it's that they are not ready to play ball at a level conducive to winning with the current team.

Jordan Hill kind of debunks this thought because the Rockets are beginning to win with him getting rotation minutes. Last year we were told he was a bad rookie by this very coach, probably because he wasn't Channing Frye of 2005-2006.

Jordan Hill does not debunk anything.

He was crap during SL before his rookie season. He came into camp out of shape.... what does that show us?

Also, the bad rookie comment was shown to be out of context, MDA never referred to him as such.

He has gotten better, he is a season older. Good for him.

Shawne Williams was in shape since the start of camp according to Amar'e and according to coach busting 3s in practice for 2mos before he decided to play him. Duhon and Q were always out of shape yet he rode those horses into the ground.

dude, different scenarios. You expected MDA to sit the only PG on the roster for a month or 2 in duhon? at least come up with some realistic examples.

MDA did explain to all how he treated Shawne and I thought it was reasonable: He had Mason and Bill Walker in front of him that he wanted to exhaust and give those 2 guys chances. He also wanted to build trust with him. And now we see the results: Shawne was ready and coach was ready and all is pretty well between the 2.

Did Duhon eventually get benched and DNP'd or not answer this question? Shawne Williams got in because he can hit the 3 a la Frye-Diaw...this isn't rocket surgery here as far as figuring things out

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Juice wrote:

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Juice wrote:

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Juice wrote:

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:Our GM acquired 2 players possibly more who aren't D'AnToni type players.

my thought is that the statement "they aren't D'AnToni type players" is wrong, it's that they are not ready to play ball at a level conducive to winning with the current team.

Jordan Hill kind of debunks this thought because the Rockets are beginning to win with him getting rotation minutes. Last year we were told he was a bad rookie by this very coach, probably because he wasn't Channing Frye of 2005-2006.

Jordan Hill does not debunk anything.

He was crap during SL before his rookie season. He came into camp out of shape.... what does that show us?

Also, the bad rookie comment was shown to be out of context, MDA never referred to him as such.

He has gotten better, he is a season older. Good for him.

Shawne Williams was in shape since the start of camp according to Amar'e and according to coach busting 3s in practice for 2mos before he decided to play him. Duhon and Q were always out of shape yet he rode those horses into the ground.

dude, different scenarios. You expected MDA to sit the only PG on the roster for a month or 2 in duhon? at least come up with some realistic examples.

MDA did explain to all how he treated Shawne and I thought it was reasonable: He had Mason and Bill Walker in front of him that he wanted to exhaust and give those 2 guys chances. He also wanted to build trust with him. And now we see the results: Shawne was ready and coach was ready and all is pretty well between the 2.

Did Duhon eventually get benched and DNP'd or not answer this question? Shawne Williams got in because he can hit the 3 a la Frye-Diaw...this isn't rocket surgery here as far as figuring things out

yes Duhon did get benched, but it was AFTER the Knicks got another PG to play: Sergio.

We had Nate and Hughes but he was picking fights(guys who saw time at point guard last year Hughes part of the winning that happened in December which Nate got benched for). We picked up Sergio he got some burn and once D'AnToni saw he couldn't hit the 3 he got benched. Everything is predicated off of hitting the 3 ball. Doesn't matter what kind of skills you possess D'AnToni would find a way to bench 1985-1989 Micheal Jordan who was gifted beyond but couldn't hit the 3 ball.