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BRIGGS
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12/21/2010  8:58 AM
A guy who may be very interesting--especially for our D and his age is Deandre Jordan. We can score points--Im not worried about that. But watching the Mavs Heat---a 7 foot C who can play and have an effect on defense yet can also score and rebound as well might be a better *fit* for this team. He really has been playing well and you can see the improvement in their team. You like his age and the fact that he is a guy who is ready now yet can also continue to improve. I dont know what type of contract it would take--more than an MLE-- maybe a 5 year 42mm $ deal front-loaded would get it done. That would leave us with the cash to resign Wilson to a reasonable contract and also bring in another really good player or two as well.
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12/21/2010  9:25 AM
heard last night on ESPN that the Nets have been told Anthony will resign if traded to them depending on who else the acquire with him. Man I will be so pissed if the Nets get him.

I am not convinced that he will just play out the season and sign with us. Once on that teams, who knows what the Russian will try to do to keep him (legal or otherwise).

please no nononononon

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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12/21/2010  9:52 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:heard last night on ESPN that the Nets have been told Anthony will resign if traded to them depending on who else the acquire with him. Man I will be so pissed if the Nets get him.

I am not convinced that he will just play out the season and sign with us. Once on that teams, who knows what the Russian will try to do to keep him (legal or otherwise).

please no nononononon

Im one that believes we have a lot of the needed pieces here. I do think a coordinated athletic 7 footer who can play and a couple of other very solid pieces that makes sense could easily be more valuable for the team than Carmelo. I do NOT believe Carmelo Anhony is a must have guy in any perspective. We have good players--we need a C and a high quality bench--in terms of being able to bring off Jason terry and Shawn marion with another 7 footer and a high quality PG---that what SA and dallas are doing--they are playing 9 deep and winning on both ends. We can play high octane but having atleast one athletic 7 footer who CAN PLAY would be a great deal of difference.

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12/21/2010  10:15 AM
I'm very worried if we don't get Carmelo Anthony. There is not a single Star FA next summer after him. We'll end up having cap money with nothing to spend it on and will probably be forced to spend it on mediocre/role players like Detroit did with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. And I know some of you believe we are a scrub like Jason Thompson away from beating Miami but we are not. We're really another Star and a LEGIT veteran defensive anchor away from being in the conversation with the Heat.
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12/21/2010  10:27 AM
I like the idea of Jordan. He dunks everything and hasn't played with a good point guard. And Nene is a nice option down low. I think you build the frontcourt. We can fill in with veterans at backup point guard roles.

Continue to develop Chandler, Fields, Gallo, Douglas and AR and we will be all good.

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12/21/2010  10:31 AM
If we don't get Melo I have two courses I pursue:

1st course:

Marcus Camby, Andre Miller and Rudy Fernandez.

offer Curry, AR, Azubuike and Toney Douglas and two second round picks. saves Portland about $20M in salary next year, and Azubuike's contract is covered by insurance and half of Curry's deal has already been paid.

2nd course:

Pursue OJ Mayo from Memphis and either Carl Landry or Jason Thompson from Sacto.

not sure what those would take, but I think they'd be possible.

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12/21/2010  10:33 AM
If we were to miss out on Melo, i'm sure Iggy will be the target.

In a seperate thought, i wouldn't be surprised to see us target Andersen Varejao, who would look great next to Stoudemire. Probably not at the deadline but maybe during the draft in exchange for Turiaf, Mozgov, and our first round pick, which will probabaly be between 15-20.

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12/21/2010  10:44 AM
crzymdups wrote:If we don't get Melo I have two courses I pursue:

1st course:

Marcus Camby, Andre Miller and Rudy Fernandez.

offer Curry, AR, Azubuike and Toney Douglas and two second round picks. saves Portland about $20M in salary next year, and Azubuike's contract is covered by insurance and half of Curry's deal has already been paid.

2nd course:

Pursue OJ Mayo from Memphis and either Carl Landry or Jason Thompson from Sacto.

not sure what those would take, but I think they'd be possible.

these 2 things have been discussed before: they would not save any $ for the other team.

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12/21/2010  10:51 AM
crzymdups wrote:If we don't get Melo I have two courses I pursue:

1st course:

Marcus Camby, Andre Miller and Rudy Fernandez.

offer Curry, AR, Azubuike and Toney Douglas and two second round picks. saves Portland about $20M in salary next year, and Azubuike's contract is covered by insurance and half of Curry's deal has already been paid.

2nd course:

Pursue OJ Mayo from Memphis and either Carl Landry or Jason Thompson from Sacto.

not sure what those would take, but I think they'd be possible.

If our off season was OJ Mayo Deandre Jordan and Tayshaun Price while resigning Wilson chandler with with what we already have--then we are there. The tough part would be trading for Mayo but I think it can be done--hes going to cost the Grizzlies way too much cash soon.

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12/21/2010  10:53 AM
"CLEVELAND: The Cavaliers are a disaster and clearly need to start over in 2010 A.L. (After LeBron). Anderson Varejao is a franchise favorite and loved by the fans there, but his contract is an albatross, especially when you consider how he's not nearly as effective without LeBron on the floor. But next to Stoudemire, he'd be the perfect complement for his hustle, rebounding and defense."
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12/21/2010  11:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2010  11:36 AM
Would love Varejao here. Perfect complement to Amare. Pesky as hell on defense, coming into his own as a complementary offensive player. I think the team and the fans love Varejao but I could see it happening if the Cavs (finally) decide to blow it up and get rid of Mo Williams, Varejao, etc. and go young with Boobie Gibson, JJ Hickson and whatever youth/draft picks they can trade for.
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12/21/2010  11:33 AM
misterearl wrote:"CLEVELAND: The Cavaliers are a disaster and clearly need to start over in 2010 A.L. (After LeBron). Anderson Varejao is a franchise favorite and loved by the fans there, but his contract is an albatross, especially when you consider how he's not nearly as effective without LeBron on the floor. But next to Stoudemire, he'd be the perfect complement for his hustle, rebounding and defense."

I have to think verajo is part of a solution there--and he has a nice contract for them. Im looking at potentially attainable dudes.

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12/21/2010  11:42 AM
iSergio wrote:I'm very worried if we don't get Carmelo Anthony. There is not a single Star FA next summer after him. We'll end up having cap money with nothing to spend it on and will probably be forced to spend it on mediocre/role players like Detroit did with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. And I know some of you believe we are a scrub like Jason Thompson away from beating Miami but we are not. We're really another Star and a LEGIT veteran defensive anchor away from being in the conversation with the Heat.

If we don't get Melo in the summer then I would be more than happy to resign The Mayor then add these 3 UFA to our roster.

Joel Przybilla - Starting Center to play with Amare.
Shane Battier - SG/SF - Add another multi-position player in the mix
Jason Williams -Backup PG

Just added good depth with High BBall IQ players.

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12/21/2010  1:02 PM
iSergio wrote:I'm very worried if we don't get Carmelo Anthony. There is not a single Star FA next summer after him. We'll end up having cap money with nothing to spend it on and will probably be forced to spend it on mediocre/role players like Detroit did with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. And I know some of you believe we are a scrub like Jason Thompson away from beating Miami but we are not. We're really another Star and a LEGIT veteran defensive anchor away from being in the conversation with the Heat.

I was worried about that this off season- and Walsh played things way smarter than any of us could have even suggested- Felton for 2 years? That is unheard of when you have guys like Duhon and Harrington getting longer contracts.

We whiff on Melo- I am not worried about Walsh spending the money foolishly.

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12/21/2010  1:45 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:I'm very worried if we don't get Carmelo Anthony. There is not a single Star FA next summer after him. We'll end up having cap money with nothing to spend it on and will probably be forced to spend it on mediocre/role players like Detroit did with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. And I know some of you believe we are a scrub like Jason Thompson away from beating Miami but we are not. We're really another Star and a LEGIT veteran defensive anchor away from being in the conversation with the Heat.

If we don't get Melo in the summer then I would be more than happy to resign The Mayor then add these 3 UFA to our roster.

Joel Przybilla - Starting Center to play with Amare.
Shane Battier - SG/SF - Add another multi-position player in the mix
Jason Williams -Backup PG

Just added good depth with High BBall IQ players.

To old no where near enough talent there--plus we haev fields no need for Battier


Mayo--another 20 point scorer age 23
Deandre Jordan athletic 7-0 260 leading the NBA in FG% and who's play is really coming on
Tayshaun Prince--one battle tested vet who is a young 30 who would be really good here

Prince and Jordan are easy Mayo wed have to trade for. But Id rather have these three guys at the same expense it would take for Melo anyway

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12/21/2010  1:52 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:I'm very worried if we don't get Carmelo Anthony. There is not a single Star FA next summer after him. We'll end up having cap money with nothing to spend it on and will probably be forced to spend it on mediocre/role players like Detroit did with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. And I know some of you believe we are a scrub like Jason Thompson away from beating Miami but we are not. We're really another Star and a LEGIT veteran defensive anchor away from being in the conversation with the Heat.

If we don't get Melo in the summer then I would be more than happy to resign The Mayor then add these 3 UFA to our roster.

Joel Przybilla - Starting Center to play with Amare.
Shane Battier - SG/SF - Add another multi-position player in the mix
Jason Williams -Backup PG

Just added good depth with High BBall IQ players.

To old no where near enough talent there--plus we haev fields no need for Battier


Mayo--another 20 point scorer age 23
Deandre Jordan athletic 7-0 260 leading the NBA in FG% and who's play is really coming on
Tayshaun Prince--one battle tested vet who is a young 30 who would be really good here

Prince and Jordan are easy Mayo wed have to trade for. But Id rather have these three guys at the same expense it would take for Melo anyway

Mayo you would have to get on a trade since he is not a FA. Who would you send that Memphis would want?

Would you rather have Jordan or Marc Gasol? Both are RFA. They would cost us something.

Prince is a UFA but don't you think we have enough perimeter players?

But I agree that the 3 you mentioned would greatly enhance us as long as the core in place now is still here to play with them next year.

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12/21/2010  1:58 PM
Tayshun Prince looks like an OOOOLLLLLDDDD 30yrs to me. I don't know what happened there.

But I agree about OJ Mayo and Deandre Jordan.

Did I read somewhere that Courtney Lee might be available?

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12/21/2010  2:02 PM
losing melo sucks but what would suck just as suck would be not to have any real options. we have real options. good trade pieces good cap space good players.

"the world is ours" to quote a well known italian playing a miami-cuban chasing the american dream.

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12/21/2010  2:48 PM
DeAndre Jordan is a guy to talk about replacing Timofey Mozgov... hardly a viable plan B option to target if we miss out on Melo... let's get real.
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12/21/2010  2:57 PM
TMS wrote:DeAndre Jordan is a guy to talk about replacing Timofey Mozgov... hardly a viable plan B option to target if we miss out on Melo... let's get real.

You always seem to forget 75% of the material. How about having the money and or ability to bring in two proven scorers sign Wilson ANd add a C---please dont compare Mosgov to anyone leading the NBA in FG% who has scored 20+ points 10 rebounds in games etc... Mosgov cant even hold on to the ball. Now that may change and it may not--but Im not waiting on him to find out.

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