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- Plus, the Knicks fans are like a desperate guy who hasn't had sex for 9 years... once he starts having sex, it doesn't matter what she looks like and what the quality is. It's sex.

- Because that's who they are: Amar'e plays with a ton of swagger/confidence and they feed off him. He thinks he's a superduperstar and carries himself like one... a lot of times, that's bad for a player or a team, but in this case, the Knicks were so beaten down that they desperately needed someone like that. He's just crazy enough to believe that they ARE the best team in the East. Sometimes it's not bad to think that way.

- Watch Landry Fields crash the boards - we just talked about this on today's podcast. Total rebounding DNA. Knows the geometry of the bounces and comes flying in at weird angles, he's really good at it.

- My take on the poll that just went up: I don't think the Knicks should give up anything for Melo... if he REALLY wants to play in NY, he'll come this summer. They can't trump NJ's best offer so why not play the "hey, aren't we better off keeping our nucleus, then adding you to it this summer?" card.

- Felton is a great example of not giving up on a high lottery pick too early... I even wrote about this last year, he had serious Billups/late bloomer potential.

- Jax/JVG think NYK should give up anything Denver wants other than Amare for Carmelo... but why do that when you can sign him for free in July? it's not like they are winning the 2011 title with him.

- : I mean, I don't understand why people don't realize that. Bucher and I argued about it on today's podcast. Melo wants to live in New York and play for the Knicks. it's the worst kept secret in the NBA. Amare just threw it away... Celts with a chance to tie.

- sportsguy33: 48 pts for Amare-Felton-Chandler - the new Big 3!

- If you're the Nuggets, is a Gallanari/Randolph package enough for Melo when you're losing him anyway?
Yes
( 66% )
No
( 34% )

- sportsguy33: Absolutely. The Knicks are legit - really good offensively and they play their asses off. That's a 45-48 win team.

- I know that was a tough loss - but the Knicks fans should be fired up right now. Their team just played really well against one of the title favorites in a nationally televised game that meant something. And your best 3 players had great games. You have to be happy with that.

sportsguy33:
Amare finally missed a jumper. Thanks God. Gallanari should just hold two flags and wave Pierce by him like an airport runway worker.

martin wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:- My take on the poll that just went up: I don't think the Knicks should give up anything for Melo... if he REALLY wants to play in NY, he'll come this summer. They can't trump NJ's best offer so why not play the "hey, aren't we better off keeping our nucleus, then adding you to it this summer?" card.

This.

It's great if Melo is really willing to hold out for one team and one team only. But if he gave Denver a list of acceptable destinations it doesn't hold water.

I'm not arguing to gut the roster or overpay, but nor would I be over confident we can just have him this summer.

BlueSeats wrote:

martin wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:- My take on the poll that just went up: I don't think the Knicks should give up anything for Melo... if he REALLY wants to play in NY, he'll come this summer. They can't trump NJ's best offer so why not play the "hey, aren't we better off keeping our nucleus, then adding you to it this summer?" card.

This.

It's great if Melo is really willing to hold out for one team and one team only. But if he gave Denver a list of acceptable destinations it doesn't hold water.

I'm not arguing to gut the roster or overpay, but nor would I be over confident we can just have him this summer.

Melo already gave his list: Knicks.

BlueSeats wrote:

martin wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

martin wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:- My take on the poll that just went up: I don't think the Knicks should give up anything for Melo... if he REALLY wants to play in NY, he'll come this summer. They can't trump NJ's best offer so why not play the "hey, aren't we better off keeping our nucleus, then adding you to it this summer?" card.

This.

It's great if Melo is really willing to hold out for one team and one team only. But if he gave Denver a list of acceptable destinations it doesn't hold water.

I'm not arguing to gut the roster or overpay, but nor would I be over confident we can just have him this summer.

Melo already gave his list: Knicks.

From your lips to gods ears.

If Denver had a list of teams other than the Knicks that Melo would extend with, Denver would be actively having trade talks with them.

They haven't.

Denver sweet-talking the Nets in hopes that Knicks will budge on their current offer, which is dwindling by the day. They forgot that Donnie took over and Isiah is miles away.

martin wrote:If Denver had a list of teams other than the Knicks that Melo would extend with, Denver would be actively having trade talks with them.

They haven't.

How do you know?

martin wrote:Denver sweet-talking the Nets in hopes that Knicks will budge on their current offer, which is dwindling by the day. They forgot that Donnie took over and Isiah is miles away.

The rookie GM v. the savvy veteran. It's nice to have a guy like Walsh calling the shots, he's not going to overpay, not going to get bamboozled, and not going to panic. He's seen it all, has stones, and best of all, patience.

BlueSeats wrote:

martin wrote:If Denver had a list of teams other than the Knicks that Melo would extend with, Denver would be actively having trade talks with them.

They haven't.

How do you know?

haha, you know I don't and realistically only Denver GM does, but this is about all we have read and gathered.

You know what I haven't read from Melo in a strong enough way? "I'd like to stay in Denver but they need to upgrade their team, and if I see that by the trade deadline, I am definitely staying." And then all Denver would have to do is concentrate in this area. But they haven't.

So that means (to me) it's about a particular destination, whether location or quality of destination (playoff caliber team). And Denver has only flirted with the Nets. If a playoff team COULD be in the mix, negotiation tactics 101 tells us that Denver would have tried like balls to spout different rumors to Orlando and Dallas on a daily basis, but that hasn't happened to the point of making a difference for leverage against the Nets or Knicks. So I'm back to location.

martin wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

martin wrote:If Denver had a list of teams other than the Knicks that Melo would extend with, Denver would be actively having trade talks with them.

They haven't.

How do you know?

haha, you know I don't and realistically only Denver GM does, but this is about all we have read and gathered.

You know what I haven't read from Melo in a strong enough way? "I'd like to stay in Denver but they need to upgrade their team, and if I see that by the trade deadline, I am definitely staying." And then all Denver would have to do is concentrate in this area. But they haven't.

So that means (to me) it's about a particular destination, whether location or quality of destination (playoff caliber team). And Denver has only flirted with the Nets. If a playoff team COULD be in the mix, negotiation tactics 101 tells us that Denver would have tried like balls to spout different rumors to Orlando and Dallas on a daily basis, but that hasn't happened to the point of making a difference for leverage against the Nets or Knicks. So I'm back to location.

You're just a big ol' rumor slut.

Seriously though, I think GMs read enough BS about themselves to disregard what they read in the press. I suspect interested parties have weekly chats and the disinformation is planted amongst themselves.

martin wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:Plus, if TMS is right that we'd have to renounce Chandler to have cap room for Melo we're still not getting him scott free. It adds up to a trade being the most equinimious scenario all round. And even if that means nothing to Melo, I don't think Donnie is one to burn bridges.

with creativity Knicks have enough caproom to sign Melo to $16M+ in offseason and keep Chandler if they want. Or if Melo is not moved before trade deadline and Knicks know this, they can move Chandler or others for very good value. Renouncing makes zero sense.

16M.

And what is it if he re-signs and trades?

BlueSeats wrote:

martin wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:Plus, if TMS is right that we'd have to renounce Chandler to have cap room for Melo we're still not getting him scott free. It adds up to a trade being the most equinimious scenario all round. And even if that means nothing to Melo, I don't think Donnie is one to burn bridges.

with creativity Knicks have enough caproom to sign Melo to $16M+ in offseason and keep Chandler if they want. Or if Melo is not moved before trade deadline and Knicks know this, they can move Chandler or others for very good value. Renouncing makes zero sense.

16M.

And what is it if he re-signs and trades?

not sure I understand your question. Right now Denver is offering a 3 you extension on top of what Melo is getting now, so perhaps:

 			2010/11		2011/12		2012/13		2013/14		2014/15
Carmelo Anthony 	$17,149,243 	$18,518,575 	$20,000,061 	$21,600,065 	$23,868,072

And quite frankly those numbers are totally ridiculous for Melo. They are way beyond and above what Amare, Bosh, Wade, LeBron are getting paid. Those are Kobe number AFTER he started winning championships. It's part of the other reason I don't want Melo at those extended $'s