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scoshin
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12/16/2010  11:41 AM
or AR to become Camby like we had all once hoped.

I wish Camby wasn't offered a 2 yr $11M per annum contract cause it seems almost impossible to make a trade for him while also getting Melo.

If we add Melo and Camby, I think we'd have a title run on our hands. Camby has the exact skillset we need to complement Amare. People mention role players like Varejao but Varejao can't be relied upon to hit an open jumper. Neither can Dalembert and I don't know enough about Marc Gasol to be honest. And without a jumper, none of these players will see the starting lineup under D'Antoni.

Camby can hit the J up to 18 feet out. He rebounds at an excellent rate. He can defend the interior better than any of our current players. He's old, but I think he has 2-3 more years left in the tank.

Besides AR, what young player can we acquire that can project to be another Camby? Cause that's the type of player we need next to Amare. It doesn't have to be a C imo. It can be a PF like Marion was for Amare.

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12/16/2010  11:44 AM
David Lee! (not srs) but boy I wished that man played good Defense, he would have been good to have right now...
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12/16/2010  11:44 AM
+ 1 on Camby
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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12/16/2010  11:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/16/2010  11:48 AM
I'm not sure MDA would play him. He is over 6'10'' that doesn't fit MDA criteria.
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12/16/2010  11:49 AM
Vmart wrote:I'm not sure MDA would play him. He is over 6'10'' that doesn't fit MDA criteria.

come on man, that's such a low-level post. We all stopped doing that a long time ago.

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Vmart
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12/16/2010  11:52 AM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:I'm not sure MDA would play him. He is over 6'10'' that doesn't fit MDA criteria.

come on man, that's such a low-level post. We all stopped doing that a long time ago.

The Knicks treated this game like a playoff game and they still lost. You guys want cartwheels because the Knicks lost by two to the Celtics at HOME!

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12/16/2010  11:55 AM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:I'm not sure MDA would play him. He is over 6'10'' that doesn't fit MDA criteria.

come on man, that's such a low-level post. We all stopped doing that a long time ago.

The Knicks treated this game like a playoff game and they still lost. You guys want cartwheels because the Knicks lost by two to the Celtics at HOME!

Vmart, we're not doing cartwheels. We need help. We're just argueing HOW we need it.

Camby would be an absolutely wonderful addition and at this point, I'm willing to give them Randolph if they really want to go young.

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12/16/2010  11:56 AM
Even a mediocre big like Jeff Foster would be gold right now.
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12/16/2010  11:57 AM
Camby would be great. Its his rebounding and defensive presence we need. I asked on another thread- what about Curry, Randolph and Walker for Camby, Fernandez and Mills? Saves Portland about $9-$10 mil next year and gives them a good prospect. Gives us a player we need (Camby), a player we cove (Rudy) and a player who may be able to spot Felton and fit this system (Mills).

Its tough for us if you think Randolph long term eventually is what Marcus Camby has been. But I think Camby is still playing a pretty high level and would make a solid impact over the next 2 seasons.

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12/16/2010  11:59 AM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:I'm not sure MDA would play him. He is over 6'10'' that doesn't fit MDA criteria.

come on man, that's such a low-level post. We all stopped doing that a long time ago.

The Knicks treated this game like a playoff game and they still lost. You guys want cartwheels because the Knicks lost by two to the Celtics at HOME!

The Celtics are the best team in the East and damn near won the NBA Title last year. How is it not a good thing for this team to have pretty much out played the Celts for much of the game and lost in the last seconds. It wasn't like Boston really stopped the Knicks. That shot Amar'e had point blank that rimmed out just before Pierce hit his, could easily have gone down or they could've called a foul on that play. I think it's more than obvious that after BEATING the Nuggets and then taking the C's to the final seconds that this team is a very good team. Even tho it's still a team that needs to be improved.

The good thing is that we need to be improved from the bottom and not the top. Our starters are doing the job, but our reserves need to be improved. That's a GREAT problem to have, since it's easier to find bench help than starters.

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12/16/2010  12:00 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:I'm not sure MDA would play him. He is over 6'10'' that doesn't fit MDA criteria.

come on man, that's such a low-level post. We all stopped doing that a long time ago.

The Knicks treated this game like a playoff game and they still lost. You guys want cartwheels because the Knicks lost by two to the Celtics at HOME!

What does other peoples reactions to the game have to do with the low level post that you added? Not ever related at all. Martin was attempting to let you know that post like this generate zero intelligent conversation and are unnecessary.

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12/16/2010  12:00 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:I'm not sure MDA would play him. He is over 6'10'' that doesn't fit MDA criteria.

come on man, that's such a low-level post. We all stopped doing that a long time ago.

The Knicks treated this game like a playoff game and they still lost. You guys want cartwheels because the Knicks lost by two to the Celtics at HOME!

Dude. I signed up for this abused fan therapy session. We cry into each others boobs. It's wonderfully healing.

Haha. Seriously though. I get what you're saying. After 10 years of losing, it's hard to stomach feeling good about a loss at home.

But this thread isn't about how we're really Laker beating championship contenders. It's about recognizing we have serious flaws (on this I believe you would agree) and how to fix them.

I would have LOVED to see Camby or really any big body out there not letting KG post up, grab his own rebound and put it back.

Maybe Charles Oakley can come out of retirement? He'd be perfect for this team. Plays D. Enforcer. Can make defenses respect his J.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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12/16/2010  12:03 PM
From a perception standpoint, the Knicks accomplished as much in a loss as they would have with a win. If the Knicks keep playing like last night they would probably at least beat Boston twice in a 7 game series IMO. They were a defensive presence inside from having a team that could be them in a 7 game series. Remember Boston muscled us around and they didn't even have Shaq or Perkins. Knicks need to load up more upfront.
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12/16/2010  12:03 PM
From a perception standpoint, the Knicks accomplished as much in a loss as they would have with a win. If the Knicks keep playing like last night they would probably at least beat Boston twice in a 7 game series IMO. They were a defensive presence inside from having a team that could be them in a 7 game series. Remember Boston muscled us around and they didn't even have Shaq or Perkins. Knicks need to load up more upfront.
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12/16/2010  12:15 PM
i read this thread, conclusion, PLAY AR.

btw last nite nate kinda carried the celtics on his back and really was the spark off the bench, and a great sub when rondo was hurt. where is the knicks spark off the bench? we have players i really want mda to start using them. tbh we could of used nate off the bench subbing for felton but we let him go.

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12/16/2010  12:19 PM
Cheers: The only one you can really really make a case for is Turiaf, but he has his knee problem so if that's why he's not playing much, you can't argue with it.

AR: Can't seem to be able to handle the NBA yet or anymore.

Mosgov: Ditto

Douglas: Injured

Williams and Mason Jr: Not going to make a difference.

Curry: For obvious reasons

All of these guys are either hurt or would have hurt the team or would have been ho hum. We need to make some trades.

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12/16/2010  12:21 PM
I would love Camby.

If we can't get Melo - that's my number one target for the Eddy Curry contract.

If portland is blowing it up a bit, I would do: Curry, AR and both second round picks for Camby (and maybe Rudy Fernandez?)

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12/16/2010  12:28 PM
cheers wrote:i read this thread, conclusion, PLAY AR.

btw last nite nate kinda carried the celtics on his back and really was the spark off the bench, and a great sub when rondo was hurt. where is the knicks spark off the bench? we have players i really want mda to start using them. tbh we could of used nate off the bench subbing for felton but we let him go.

AR can't handle KG getting 3/4 rebounds before put back.

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12/16/2010  12:35 PM
rp wrote:
cheers wrote:i read this thread, conclusion, PLAY AR.

btw last nite nate kinda carried the celtics on his back and really was the spark off the bench, and a great sub when rondo was hurt. where is the knicks spark off the bench? we have players i really want mda to start using them. tbh we could of used nate off the bench subbing for felton but we let him go.

AR can't handle KG getting 3/4 rebounds before put back.

it is a slightly fairer fight ar/kg than wil/kg. you almost gifting the rebounds to kg putting someone small in front of him.

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12/16/2010  12:38 PM
cheers wrote:
rp wrote:
cheers wrote:i read this thread, conclusion, PLAY AR.

btw last nite nate kinda carried the celtics on his back and really was the spark off the bench, and a great sub when rondo was hurt. where is the knicks spark off the bench? we have players i really want mda to start using them. tbh we could of used nate off the bench subbing for felton but we let him go.

AR can't handle KG getting 3/4 rebounds before put back.

it is a slightly fairer fight ar/kg than wil/kg. you almost gifting the rebounds to kg putting someone small in front of him.

wilson has 30-40 of muscle on AR at this point. AR is a string bean - he needs to bulk up.

wilson is doing an admirable job.

getting camby would be a godsend.

this is all stuff that won't shake out for two months as the Melo-drama plays out. once Melo is shipped, the Knicks will either have Melo and need to wait until the summer to find a big... or if Melo goes somewhere else, i would make a serious play for Camby and Rudy Fernandez.

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