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12/15/2010  9:58 PM
this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.
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12/15/2010  10:02 PM
cheers wrote:this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.

Getting Melo is about the package that would be needed to get him! If you can instead make smaller deals for guys that have good talent like Mayo, they you can enhance the team you have without wrecking it just to try and improve. I think it will be much easier to make the smaller deals for a couple of players than it will to try and add Melo.

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12/15/2010  10:03 PM
lol... the team played great tonight & we almost took this one, but i mean how realistic is it to expect Amare & Ray to have the kinds of games they had tonight on a nightly basis for the rest of the year? w/the minutes they're playing they're gonna break down or slow down... if we can't add another go to scorer to take the pressure off Amare, then we need another defensive shotblocking big to defend the paint like Camby, since AR will never see the light of day off the bench.

that said, i wouldn't overpay to get Melo... Wilson & Gallo are both really good... if it takes much more than those guys to get Melo then i don't want Melo.

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12/15/2010  10:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/15/2010  10:04 PM
Let's face it Knicks fans.

We're a consistent 1st round team until we get Melo, and that's where 2nd round/ECF discussions will come into play.

I keep our guys and sign him in the offseason.

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12/15/2010  10:04 PM
cheers wrote:this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.

I believe the knicks made a run when STAT was out...so not sure what you saw.

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12/15/2010  10:05 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Let's face it Knicks fans.

We're a consistent 1st round team until we get Melo, and that's where 2nd round/ECF discussions will come into play.

I keep our guys and sign him in the offseason.

Experience team vs newly constructed team. I have differ opinion but thats what it is opinion.

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12/15/2010  10:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/15/2010  10:06 PM
cheers wrote:this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.

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12/15/2010  10:06 PM
TMS wrote:lol... the team played great tonight & we almost took this one, but i mean how realistic is it to expect Amare & Ray to have the kinds of games they had tonight on a nightly basis for the rest of the year? w/the minutes they're playing they're gonna break down or slow down... if we can't add another go to scorer to take the pressure off Amare, then we need another defensive shotblocking big to defend the paint like Camby, since AR will never see the light of day off the bench.

that said, i wouldn't overpay to get Melo... Wilson & Gallo are both really good... if it takes much more than those guys to get Melo then i don't want Melo.

Agreed. Thought I prefer to get him now because anything can happen, I'm not stripping the team bare for Melo if we can get him next year. But we definitely need him if we want to be in the discussion for competing for a Chip.

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12/15/2010  10:08 PM
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cheers wrote:this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.

I believe the knicks made a run when STAT was out...so not sure what you saw.

If I recall the Celts chopped the lead every time Amare went to the bench and MDA had to rush him back in....These guys are going to be worn out sometime by the allstar break if we dont upgrade soon.

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12/15/2010  10:09 PM
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cheers wrote:this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.

Getting Melo is about the package that would be needed to get him! If you can instead make smaller deals for guys that have good talent like Mayo, they you can enhance the team you have without wrecking it just to try and improve. I think it will be much easier to make the smaller deals for a couple of players than it will to try and add Melo.

Easier perhaps, but this smaller deals probably aren't putting us into championship contention.

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12/15/2010  10:10 PM
TMS wrote:lol... the team played great tonight & we almost took this one, but i mean how realistic is it to expect Amare & Ray to have the kinds of games they had tonight on a nightly basis for the rest of the year? w/the minutes they're playing they're gonna break down or slow down... if we can't add another go to scorer to take the pressure off Amare, then we need another defensive shotblocking big to defend the paint like Camby, since AR will never see the light of day off the bench.

that said, i wouldn't overpay to get Melo... Wilson & Gallo are both really good... if it takes much more than those guys to get Melo then i don't want Melo.


Yup it's all about the package you have to give up. I hate that the Nets keep jackin up the price, cuz there's just no way we can beat that. Not without cleaning house. We just have to be real and look to make a couple of smaller moves. Not unless Melo forces Denver's hand, which it's unclear he has the willingness to do. I mean why hasn't he demanded that they send him to NY and NY only. At this point there are only really 2 teams with serious offers and they're both in the NY area. Melo can pretty much call his own shots with this deal.
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12/15/2010  10:12 PM
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rp wrote:
cheers wrote:this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.

I believe the knicks made a run when STAT was out...so not sure what you saw.

If I recall the Celts chopped the lead every time Amare went to the bench and MDA had to rush him back in....These guys are going to be worn out sometime by the allstar break if we dont upgrade soon.

Agreed, but the kinda cancels out the original argument doesn't it.

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12/15/2010  10:13 PM
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:lol... the team played great tonight & we almost took this one, but i mean how realistic is it to expect Amare & Ray to have the kinds of games they had tonight on a nightly basis for the rest of the year? w/the minutes they're playing they're gonna break down or slow down... if we can't add another go to scorer to take the pressure off Amare, then we need another defensive shotblocking big to defend the paint like Camby, since AR will never see the light of day off the bench.

that said, i wouldn't overpay to get Melo... Wilson & Gallo are both really good... if it takes much more than those guys to get Melo then i don't want Melo.


Yup it's all about the package you have to give up. I hate that the Nets keep jackin up the price, cuz there's just no way we can beat that. Not without cleaning house. We just have to be real and look to make a couple of smaller moves. Not unless Melo forces Denver's hand, which it's unclear he has the willingness to do. I mean why hasn't he demanded that they send him to NY and NY only. At this point there are only really 2 teams with serious offers and they're both in the NY area. Melo can pretty much call his own shots with this deal.

if Melo were watching this game tonight, u don't think he'd want to be a part of this? i do... but then, i'm not in his head... hopefully he forces DEN's hand

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12/15/2010  10:14 PM
cheers wrote:this was mda's game to prove his system can beat the best. what this game proved-- if amar'e is not in the game, the players you and i love look quite normal. when amar'e is in the game the same players look like rockstars. im back in the get melo camp.. im home tms! sry i spent that time with fishmike, he's so damn convincing. lol. but right now as of 9:58pm i would overpay in talent to get melo.

Oh yeah lets trade away Gallo Chandler and Fields for one guy--and then we still are small and
thin what t f would melo do in this game(we scored 116)--i like melo but our needs are a second big man who can score and maybe give some interior toughness/presence a legit 6th man and back up PG--we have no bench--that was a disastrous loss caused by a lack of bench---we tired out and they put runs on us when we had our second unit in there for even a few minutes.

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12/15/2010  10:14 PM
I'm so sad right now. Amar'e is great, but he needs some help, and that's not necessarily Melo, just a beefed up bench, some quality depth. Right now they're maxing out.
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12/15/2010  10:16 PM
This team continues to improve and has a chemistry that is surprising and exciting considering most of these guys are playing together for the first time this year. I don't know if it is possible to predict how improved they will be by the playoffs but they are improving daily. Melo would be a great addition but it is hard to imagine giving up some of the guys that I root for who are improving and are a part of a successful unit.
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12/15/2010  10:16 PM
Lakers = Kobe/Gasol
Spurs = Duncan/Parker/Ginobili
Mavs = Dirk/Kidd
Celtics = KG/Pierce/Allen
Heat = Lebron/Wade (sorry, I can't put Bosh Spice on this list)

With this said, can Knicks fans really expect major strides with just Amar'e? No, you can't. I love Felton, but he's not that second star that we need. You add Felton with that second star, and we're golden.

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12/15/2010  10:16 PM
TMS wrote:lol... the team played great tonight & we almost took this one, but i mean how realistic is it to expect Amare & Ray to have the kinds of games they had tonight on a nightly basis for the rest of the year? w/the minutes they're playing they're gonna break down or slow down... if we can't add another go to scorer to take the pressure off Amare, then we need another defensive shotblocking big to defend the paint like Camby, since AR will never see the light of day off the bench.

that said, i wouldn't overpay to get Melo... Wilson & Gallo are both really good... if it takes much more than those guys to get Melo then i don't want Melo.

Galo and Wilson had 40 points and 15 rebounds--who repalces them--we dont have anyone to replace that--carmeko is better than both but not better than two or even in the same ballpark.. Gallo should play like he did in the first half then he wouldve had 30--we haev the scoring--we have no frikin bench its so patently obvious. we lose a game by two we shouldve won and we need melo--and were still small and thin thinner

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12/15/2010  10:17 PM
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:lol... the team played great tonight & we almost took this one, but i mean how realistic is it to expect Amare & Ray to have the kinds of games they had tonight on a nightly basis for the rest of the year? w/the minutes they're playing they're gonna break down or slow down... if we can't add another go to scorer to take the pressure off Amare, then we need another defensive shotblocking big to defend the paint like Camby, since AR will never see the light of day off the bench.

that said, i wouldn't overpay to get Melo... Wilson & Gallo are both really good... if it takes much more than those guys to get Melo then i don't want Melo.


Yup it's all about the package you have to give up. I hate that the Nets keep jackin up the price, cuz there's just no way we can beat that. Not without cleaning house. We just have to be real and look to make a couple of smaller moves. Not unless Melo forces Denver's hand, which it's unclear he has the willingness to do. I mean why hasn't he demanded that they send him to NY and NY only. At this point there are only really 2 teams with serious offers and they're both in the NY area. Melo can pretty much call his own shots with this deal.

if Melo were watching this game tonight, u don't think he'd want to be a part of this? i do... but then, i'm not in his head... hopefully he forces DEN's hand

It may just be that we had to wait for Dec. 15 to come so that we could actually make some moves happen. Maybe there's something already in the works. I hope so, cuz we've got a nice core already and anything we do to add to that is gonna push us to the top tier in the East. We'll really be able to compete.

Man it just makes you wish we could've gotten something from AR this year. That would've made us unreal.

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12/15/2010  10:20 PM
CrushAlot wrote:This team continues to improve and has a chemistry that is surprising and exciting considering most of these guys are playing together for the first time this year. I don't know if it is possible to predict how improved they will be by the playoffs but they are improving daily. Melo would be a great addition but it is hard to imagine giving up some of the guys that I root for who are improving and are a part of a successful unit.

I feel you on giving up on players you root for but you have to give to get. I remember when we traded Strickland, I was in the dumps for months. Same with Starks, hated giving him up but we got a better player back in Spree....

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