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12/13/2010  10:47 AM
Howard Amare---even
Chandler Lewis--Chandler
Vince Gallo---even
Nelson Felton--Felton
Fields Q rich--come on

They do have a deeper bench. So if I thought the Magic could win the championship--why not the Knicks--other than a bench enhancement--what exactly are we missing? This is very close to a championship team. Amare is better than ewing ever was here. I hope DW pushes the pedal for the whole gig. CANNOT touch the first 5.

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12/13/2010  10:49 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Howard Amare---even
Chandler Lewis--Chandler
Vince Gallo---even
Nelson Felton--Felton
Fields Q rich--come on

They do have a deeper bench. So if I thought the Magic could win the championship--why not the Knicks--other than a bench enhancement--what exactly are we missing? This is very close to a championship team. Amare is better than ewing ever was here. I hope DW pushes the pedal for the whole gig. CANNOT touch the first 5.

Wrong! Amar'e Stoudemire > Dwight Howard
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12/13/2010  10:50 AM
iSergio wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Howard Amare---even
Chandler Lewis--Chandler
Vince Gallo---even
Nelson Felton--Felton
Fields Q rich--come on

They do have a deeper bench. So if I thought the Magic could win the championship--why not the Knicks--other than a bench enhancement--what exactly are we missing? This is very close to a championship team. Amare is better than ewing ever was here. I hope DW pushes the pedal for the whole gig. CANNOT touch the first 5.

Wrong! Amar'e Stoudemire > Dwight Howard

Well Howard on the D and reboinding matches the overall game

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12/13/2010  10:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2010  10:51 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
iSergio wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Howard Amare---even
Chandler Lewis--Chandler
Vince Gallo---even
Nelson Felton--Felton
Fields Q rich--come on

They do have a deeper bench. So if I thought the Magic could win the championship--why not the Knicks--other than a bench enhancement--what exactly are we missing? This is very close to a championship team. Amare is better than ewing ever was here. I hope DW pushes the pedal for the whole gig. CANNOT touch the first 5.

Wrong! Amar'e Stoudemire > Dwight Howard

Well Howard on the D and reboinding matches the overall game

Yeah.

But Nelson owned Felton in their playoff series last year so I'm not sure Felton is better.

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12/13/2010  10:51 AM
Knicks are going to get exposed in a playoff series vs a quality bigman....didnt Jameer take Felton to school last year?
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12/13/2010  10:51 AM
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12/13/2010  10:55 AM
thejerk wrote:Knicks are going to get exposed in a playoff series vs a quality bigman....didnt Jameer take Felton to school last year?

Childs2Dudley wrote:
But Nelson owned Felton in their playoff series last year so I'm not sure Felton is better.

felton is now playing in a system that is suited for his abilities as an uptempo PG. i don't think you can use last years playoff series as a basis for your arguments.

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12/13/2010  10:57 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
thejerk wrote:Knicks are going to get exposed in a playoff series vs a quality bigman....didnt Jameer take Felton to school last year?

Childs2Dudley wrote:
But Nelson owned Felton in their playoff series last year so I'm not sure Felton is better.

felton is now playing in a system that is suited for his abilities as an uptempo PG. i don't think you can use last years playoff series as a basis for your arguments.

But he got owned defensively. He was no match for Nelson's quickness. I'm not sure what that has to do with the system.

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12/13/2010  11:00 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
thejerk wrote:Knicks are going to get exposed in a playoff series vs a quality bigman....didnt Jameer take Felton to school last year?

Childs2Dudley wrote:
But Nelson owned Felton in their playoff series last year so I'm not sure Felton is better.

felton is now playing in a system that is suited for his abilities as an uptempo PG. i don't think you can use last years playoff series as a basis for your arguments.

But he got owned defensively. He was no match for Nelson's quickness. I'm not sure what that has to do with the system.

the system matters because first of all the game is much more uptempo which again suits felton defensively and second of all it seems to me like he's playing with a ton of confidence and very tough defensively because of how well he's playing offensively - it translates to the other end of the court. the guy is also in much better shape right now than he's been in his entire nba career.

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12/13/2010  11:01 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Howard Amare---even
Chandler Lewis--Chandler
Vince Gallo---even
Nelson Felton--Felton
Fields Q rich--come on

They do have a deeper bench. So if I thought the Magic could win the championship--why not the Knicks--other than a bench enhancement--what exactly are we missing? This is very close to a championship team. Amare is better than ewing ever was here. I hope DW pushes the pedal for the whole gig. CANNOT touch the first 5.

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12/13/2010  11:16 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
thejerk wrote:Knicks are going to get exposed in a playoff series vs a quality bigman....didnt Jameer take Felton to school last year?

Childs2Dudley wrote:
But Nelson owned Felton in their playoff series last year so I'm not sure Felton is better.

felton is now playing in a system that is suited for his abilities as an uptempo PG. i don't think you can use last years playoff series as a basis for your arguments.

But he got owned defensively. He was no match for Nelson's quickness. I'm not sure what that has to do with the system.

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12/13/2010  11:28 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
thejerk wrote:Knicks are going to get exposed in a playoff series vs a quality bigman....didnt Jameer take Felton to school last year?

Childs2Dudley wrote:
But Nelson owned Felton in their playoff series last year so I'm not sure Felton is better.

felton is now playing in a system that is suited for his abilities as an uptempo PG. i don't think you can use last years playoff series as a basis for your arguments.

But he got owned defensively. He was no match for Nelson's quickness. I'm not sure what that has to do with the system.

A lot. Felton would be pushing the ball up at every oppportunity and this will tire out Nelson. Nelson's quickness helped him a lot last year in a Larry Brown half court set.
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12/13/2010  11:34 AM
Howard's one of the best defensive players in the game and still a very good scorer. I don't think many non-Knick fans would take Amare over him or even call them equal.
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12/13/2010  11:36 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Howard's one of the best defensive players in the game and still a very good scorer. I don't think many non-Knick fans would take Amare over him or even call them equal.

Many non-knick fans are SportsCenter-centric therefore they would want Amare over Howard right now.
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12/13/2010  11:47 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Howard's one of the best defensive players in the game and still a very good scorer. I don't think many non-Knick fans would take Amare over him or even call them equal.

I think some here fail to realize the simple truth.

Howard can guard Amare but Amare cannot guard Howard.

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12/13/2010  11:50 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Howard's one of the best defensive players in the game and still a very good scorer. I don't think many non-Knick fans would take Amare over him or even call them equal.

I think some here fail to realize the simple truth.

Howard can guard Amare but Amare cannot guard Howard.

probably because your simple truth just isn't true...

amar'e went 25ts/14rbs and 28pts/10 rebs in their 2 meetings last year.

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12/13/2010  11:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2010  11:54 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Howard's one of the best defensive players in the game and still a very good scorer. I don't think many non-Knick fans would take Amare over him or even call them equal.

For this team Amare is the choice. Once you remember that the key to this team is not how much you stop the other guy--but how much you put in yourself.
Amare--MVP--why settle for second best?

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12/13/2010  12:03 PM
I thought Orlando would win it all this year

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12/13/2010  12:12 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Howard's one of the best defensive players in the game and still a very good scorer. I don't think many non-Knick fans would take Amare over him or even call them equal.

I think some here fail to realize the simple truth.

Howard can guard Amare but Amare cannot guard Howard.

probably because your simple truth just isn't true...

amar'e went 25ts/14rbs and 28pts/10 rebs in their 2 meetings last year.

I didnt see the game so who was guarding Amare? Last time I checked Amare played PF for Phoenix last year and Dwight Howard plays Center. Checking the box score I see Howard played 23 minutes in that Nov 4 game and dropped 25 and 6 but had 5 fouls. In that same game Amare dropped 25 and 14 in 34 minutes. Since we know Howard has no offensive game outside of 5 feet from the rim Im assuming Howard abused whoever was guarding him for those 23 minutes. In the 2nd game Howard had 1 FIED GOAL ATTEMPT and 17 FT's and scored 10 points and grabbed 18 rebounds. Not even seeing the game I suspect hack a shaq was in full effect.

Source for Game 1: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Apgr4xVQBt4170jGq351KfbzPKB4?gid=2009110419

Source for Game 2: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AgXYLh4Cki_thxYr.cNVEofzPKB4?gid=2009121121


In our current lineup Amare plays center so what do you think Howard will do to him? The fact that Howard averages as many points as he does with a pretty limited offensive game says alot. Plus Howard protects the rim. Amare offensive game is super sweet but his defense is lacking. If Amare actually defended he would probably have a 6 yr deal.

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12/13/2010  12:25 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
iSergio wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Howard Amare---even
Chandler Lewis--Chandler
Vince Gallo---even
Nelson Felton--Felton
Fields Q rich--come on

They do have a deeper bench. So if I thought the Magic could win the championship--why not the Knicks--other than a bench enhancement--what exactly are we missing? This is very close to a championship team. Amare is better than ewing ever was here. I hope DW pushes the pedal for the whole gig. CANNOT touch the first 5.

Wrong! Amar'e Stoudemire > Dwight Howard

Well Howard on the D and reboinding matches the overall game

Yeah.

But Nelson owned Felton in their playoff series last year so I'm not sure Felton is better.

owned a Felton who was fettered by LB's slow motion half court sets. Our Felton will DESTROY Nelson. Bet on it

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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