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12/13/2010  9:15 AM
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12/13/2010  9:28 AM
Nice!!!! Get him, Gallo!

How about that charge he took to shut him down at the end of the game??? What?!

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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12/13/2010  9:38 AM
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12/13/2010  10:00 AM
Danilo Gallinari plays with a lot of effort and intensity against Carmelo Anthony. Why doesn't he play like that every game? : /
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12/13/2010  10:07 AM
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari plays with a lot of effort and intensity against Carmelo Anthony. Why doesn't he play like that every game? : /

Do you watch the games? My question has no malicious intent but I am just baffled how you can make a statement like that. Gallo has been nothing but all effort this year. He rebounds. He defends. He runs the floor on transition even when he is not the primary option. Watch that beautiful alleyoop dunk by Wilson. Gallo was the trailer and the lone defender tried to defend both Wilson and the trailer(Gallo) and opened up an alleyoop from Felton to Wilson.

I really don't get the Gallo hate around here. He gets to the line. He opens up the lane for the league MVP. Amare was interviewed last night and was asked about Landry and Wilson last game and he purposely mentioned Gallo and that Gallo just open things up for him.

Gallo, Felton, The Mayor and Fields are the perfect compliement for STATVP.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.

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12/13/2010  10:09 AM
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iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari plays with a lot of effort and intensity against Carmelo Anthony. Why doesn't he play like that every game? : /

Do you watch the games? My question has no malicious intent but I am just baffled how you can make a statement like that. Gallo has been nothing but all effort this year. He rebounds. He defends. He runs the floor on transition even when he is not the primary option. Watch that beautiful alleyoop dunk by Wilson. Gallo was the trailer and the lone defender tried to defend both Wilson and the trailer(Gallo) and opened up an alleyoop from Felton to Wilson.

I really don't get the Gallo hate around here. He gets to the line. He opens up the lane for the league MVP. Amare was interviewed last night and was asked about Landry and Wilson last game and he purposely mentioned Gallo and that Gallo just open things up for him.

Gallo, Felton, The Mayor and Fields are the perfect compliement for STATVP.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.

You think Danilo Gallinari is the second best SF in the game behind Kevin Durant so your opinion doesn't count. But fact is, Gallinari doesn't play with the same intensity every game. He takes games off.

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12/13/2010  10:12 AM
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari plays with a lot of effort and intensity against Carmelo Anthony. Why doesn't he play like that every game? : /

If you ever played sports, at a competitive level, you would understand. As a young competitor, you usually play to the level of your competition. As you grow in experience, you learn to bring it every game.

With that said, I haven't seen much drop off from Galo this year, unlike years in the past. Galo and Chandler are growing and developing in front of our face. It's sad you have to trade one or two of them, without knowing what the finish product will look like.

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12/13/2010  10:26 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari plays with a lot of effort and intensity against Carmelo Anthony. Why doesn't he play like that every game? : /

Do you watch the games? My question has no malicious intent but I am just baffled how you can make a statement like that. Gallo has been nothing but all effort this year. He rebounds. He defends. He runs the floor on transition even when he is not the primary option. Watch that beautiful alleyoop dunk by Wilson. Gallo was the trailer and the lone defender tried to defend both Wilson and the trailer(Gallo) and opened up an alleyoop from Felton to Wilson.

I really don't get the Gallo hate around here. He gets to the line. He opens up the lane for the league MVP. Amare was interviewed last night and was asked about Landry and Wilson last game and he purposely mentioned Gallo and that Gallo just open things up for him.

Gallo, Felton, The Mayor and Fields are the perfect compliement for STATVP.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.

I agree, gallo's #s don't jump out at you, but if you watch the game it tells a entirely different story

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12/13/2010  10:28 AM
"Team Gallo" vs. "Team Wilson".........

The debate continues.

Im just enjoying the games for now and not just root for the team but for the players to succeed.

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12/13/2010  10:41 AM
blkexec wrote:
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari plays with a lot of effort and intensity against Carmelo Anthony. Why doesn't he play like that every game? : /

If you ever played sports, at a competitive level, you would understand. As a young competitor, you usually play to the level of your competition. As you grow in experience, you learn to bring it every game.

With that said, I haven't seen much drop off from Galo this year, unlike years in the past. Galo and Chandler are growing and developing in front of our face. It's sad you have to trade one or two of them, without knowing what the finish product will look like.

there are a few around here, myself included that have argued you dont have to trade or lose one of them. Right now Melo is a better player than Fields, Gallo or Chandler, but when you look at all three you really have to wonder how well they could develop together.

All can shoot, handle, play at least 2 positions on the floor. All are dedicated to playing good defense. All are ball movers. All have excellent size. All have at least one skill thats already top flight. Fields rebounding, Chandler's shot blocking and athleticism and Gallo's shooting.

All are 22 years old, and still in their rookie contracts.

Please tell me why its such a silly thought to keep these guys together for the next several years.

If we trade for Melo its a LOCK that we lose two, probably Gallo and Fields. Its most likely we lose all 3. The only scenario where this doesnt happen is if Melo says he's not staying in Denver (he's pretty much said it) AND no team offers a fair offer for him. If Denver is panicking day of the deadline and the Knicks offer say Curry + Azu's insurance covered contract for cap relief along with AR/Mosgov does Denver do that?

My guess is they dont. I think most GMs/owners would rather risk the player walking then getting fleeced. Denver is a playoff team. If everyone is back healthy maybe they can make a run?

Even as a FA I'm not sold on Melo. For the $17mm it costs us to get Melo we could resign Chandler (20ppg, 7rebs, 50% shooting as a starter) and have $8-$10mm left to improve the bench. Maybe get a center or some big bodies. Maybe a backup PG.

Knicks have the best scoring in the league. I'm baffled why people are so fixed on getting Melo. I hope he's traded soon, here or otherwise. Its like a dark cloud.

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12/13/2010  10:44 AM
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NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari plays with a lot of effort and intensity against Carmelo Anthony. Why doesn't he play like that every game? : /

Do you watch the games? My question has no malicious intent but I am just baffled how you can make a statement like that. Gallo has been nothing but all effort this year. He rebounds. He defends. He runs the floor on transition even when he is not the primary option. Watch that beautiful alleyoop dunk by Wilson. Gallo was the trailer and the lone defender tried to defend both Wilson and the trailer(Gallo) and opened up an alleyoop from Felton to Wilson.

I really don't get the Gallo hate around here. He gets to the line. He opens up the lane for the league MVP. Amare was interviewed last night and was asked about Landry and Wilson last game and he purposely mentioned Gallo and that Gallo just open things up for him.

Gallo, Felton, The Mayor and Fields are the perfect compliement for STATVP.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.

I agree, gallo's #s don't jump out at you, but if you watch the game it tells a entirely different story

exaclty. He makes so many good plays. The refs made some horrific calls also, and Melo knew it.

I'm sure with an offensive coach like MDA Melo would be great here, epsecially with Felton/Amare pushing him to defend and play team ball. Its just not a need at that cost. I wonder if/when the Knicks start knocking off some of these elite teams if fans are still fixated on Melo.

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12/13/2010  11:24 AM
Nalod wrote:"Team Gallo" vs. "Team Wilson".........

The debate continues.

Im just enjoying the games for now and not just root for the team but for the players to succeed.

I am with Team Knicks. I like both Gallo and The Mayor. I want to keep this young group.

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12/13/2010  12:31 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Nalod wrote:"Team Gallo" vs. "Team Wilson".........

The debate continues.

Im just enjoying the games for now and not just root for the team but for the players to succeed.

I am with Team Knicks. I like both Gallo and The Mayor. I want to keep this young group.

Yeah, I don't understand the constant Wilson vs. Gallo "competition". Both of these guys have played great this year and you can't critize either of them for their effort. Wison has been mad consistent all year. The biggest knock against Gallo is his consistency but has anyone really paid attention to his numbers? He actually has been very consistent this year(I think too many of us are counting his preaseason as part of teh regular season when they are talkinga bout his "slump"). In reality he had a 3 games slump this year and other then that has played very well for essentially a 2nd year guy. In the past 22 games he's had 4 games under 13 points. Wilson has had 5 games under 13 points. That sounds pretty consistent to me for both. Gallo's shooting has been inconsistent, but his play has been far from it. Huuuuuuuuuuge difference between the two.

last 22 games(since the long 3 game Gallo horrible slump
Gallo 16.6 points, 4.9 rebounds, 1.9 assists, .91 turnovers(including 8 games with zero turnovers), 42% FGA, 39% 3's, 90% FT, 6 FT per game
Wilson 16.8 points, 5.5 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 1.41 turnovesr, 48% FGA, 39% 3's, 85% FT, 3 FT per game

last 15 games
Gallinari 16.7 points, 4.9 rebounds, 2.1 assists, .87 turnovers, 42% FGA, 41% 3's, 92% FT, 6.3 FT per game
Wilson 17.5 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.2 turnovers, 52% FGA, 43% 3's, 89% FT, 3 FT per game

This notion that one or the other is playing poorly or inconsistently is based on nothing and is as weak an argument. It's about as weak an argument as the Nets are a better destination then the Knicks. They both have knocks. Gallo is an inconsistent shooter(not an inconsistent player-big difference) and Wilson does not get to the line. However they both are improving, consistent night in and night out and most importantly playing great together. I think the attacks on one of the other come from a person picking a favorite and are a defense mechanism any time the other gets praise. Luckily these two aren't competing against each other like the fans are competing. I'm extremely happy with both. I don't know why these myths always continue even when not based on anything.

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12/13/2010  12:38 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
Nalod wrote:"Team Gallo" vs. "Team Wilson".........

The debate continues.

Im just enjoying the games for now and not just root for the team but for the players to succeed.

I am with Team Knicks. I like both Gallo and The Mayor. I want to keep this young group.

Yeah, I don't understand the constant Wilson vs. Gallo "competition". Both of these guys have played great this year and you can't critize either of them for their effort. Wison has been mad consistent all year. The biggest knock against Gallo is his consistency but has anyone really paid attention to his numbers? He actually has been very consistent this year(I think too many of us are counting his preaseason as part of teh regular season when they are talkinga bout his "slump"). In reality he had a 3 games slump this year and other then that has played very well for essentially a 2nd year guy. In the past 22 games he's had 4 games under 13 points. Wilson has had 5 games under 13 points. That sounds pretty consistent to me for both. Gallo's shooting has been inconsistent, but his play has been far from it. Huuuuuuuuuuge difference between the two.

last 22 games(since the long 3 game Gallo horrible slump
Gallo 16.6 points, 4.9 rebounds, 1.9 assists, .91 turnovers(including 8 games with zero turnovers), 42% FGA, 39% 3's, 90% FT, 6 FT per game
Wilson 16.8 points, 5.5 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 1.41 turnovesr, 48% FGA, 39% 3's, 85% FT, 3 FT per game

last 15 games
Gallinari 16.7 points, 4.9 rebounds, 2.1 assists, .87 turnovers, 42% FGA, 41% 3's, 92% FT, 6.3 FT per game
Wilson 17.5 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.2 turnovers, 52% FGA, 43% 3's, 89% FT, 3 FT per game

This notion that one or the other is playing poorly or inconsistently is based on nothing and is as weak an argument. It's about as weak an argument as the Nets are a better destination then the Knicks. They both have knocks. Gallo is an inconsistent shooter(not an inconsistent player-big difference) and Wilson does not get to the line. However they both are improving, consistent night in and night out and most importantly playing great together. I think the attacks on one of the other come from a person picking a favorite and are a defense mechanism any time the other gets praise. Luckily these two aren't competing against each other like the fans are competing. I'm extremely happy with both. I don't know why these myths always continue even when not based on anything.

Bip, have you noticed that while Gallo still jacks up some bad 3s, he's taking it to the basket A LOT more during this stretch? All he has to do is mix it up more, maybe develop a midrange game and raise the fg% and he'll be an elite scorer IMO. Maybe those are big ifs, but if you mix that in with his solid D, he's in pretty good shape.

His rebounding numbers are pathetic though. That's the one area he deserves to get killed in from criticism. He has a TON of potential as a rebounder b/c when he battles, he grabs boards easily. He just doesn't do it nearly enough. Same with Chandler actually.

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12/13/2010  12:59 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
Nalod wrote:"Team Gallo" vs. "Team Wilson".........

The debate continues.

Im just enjoying the games for now and not just root for the team but for the players to succeed.

I am with Team Knicks. I like both Gallo and The Mayor. I want to keep this young group.

Yeah, I don't understand the constant Wilson vs. Gallo "competition". Both of these guys have played great this year and you can't critize either of them for their effort. Wison has been mad consistent all year. The biggest knock against Gallo is his consistency but has anyone really paid attention to his numbers? He actually has been very consistent this year(I think too many of us are counting his preaseason as part of teh regular season when they are talkinga bout his "slump"). In reality he had a 3 games slump this year and other then that has played very well for essentially a 2nd year guy. In the past 22 games he's had 4 games under 13 points. Wilson has had 5 games under 13 points. That sounds pretty consistent to me for both. Gallo's shooting has been inconsistent, but his play has been far from it. Huuuuuuuuuuge difference between the two.

last 22 games(since the long 3 game Gallo horrible slump
Gallo 16.6 points, 4.9 rebounds, 1.9 assists, .91 turnovers(including 8 games with zero turnovers), 42% FGA, 39% 3's, 90% FT, 6 FT per game
Wilson 16.8 points, 5.5 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 1.41 turnovesr, 48% FGA, 39% 3's, 85% FT, 3 FT per game

last 15 games
Gallinari 16.7 points, 4.9 rebounds, 2.1 assists, .87 turnovers, 42% FGA, 41% 3's, 92% FT, 6.3 FT per game
Wilson 17.5 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.2 turnovers, 52% FGA, 43% 3's, 89% FT, 3 FT per game

This notion that one or the other is playing poorly or inconsistently is based on nothing and is as weak an argument. It's about as weak an argument as the Nets are a better destination then the Knicks. They both have knocks. Gallo is an inconsistent shooter(not an inconsistent player-big difference) and Wilson does not get to the line. However they both are improving, consistent night in and night out and most importantly playing great together. I think the attacks on one of the other come from a person picking a favorite and are a defense mechanism any time the other gets praise. Luckily these two aren't competing against each other like the fans are competing. I'm extremely happy with both. I don't know why these myths always continue even when not based on anything.

Bip, have you noticed that while Gallo still jacks up some bad 3s, he's taking it to the basket A LOT more during this stretch? All he has to do is mix it up more, maybe develop a midrange game and raise the fg% and he'll be an elite scorer IMO. Maybe those are big ifs, but if you mix that in with his solid D, he's in pretty good shape.

His rebounding numbers are pathetic though. That's the one area he deserves to get killed in from criticism. He has a TON of potential as a rebounder b/c when he battles, he grabs boards easily. He just doesn't do it nearly enough. Same with Chandler actually.

Agreed. I think his rebounding should be up around 7ish. I think his rebounding issue is due to a lack of strength. Same goes for his inability to score in the post. If you watch him on post ups(on the few occassions he does), he gets whatever shot he wants, but they are typically off balance because even the little guys can shove him around.

He has been a lot more aggressive this year. His shooting is inconsistent but his scoring is consistent. This is a clear indication that contrary to the belief of some, when his shot is not falling he is clearly attacking the rim and getting fouled.

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12/13/2010  1:01 PM
^ it was very funny to me when Gallo had Billups in a post-up in the second half and ended up with a bad fade-away jumper that clanked badly. Chauncy pretty much just pushed him around.

Next year will be different.

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12/13/2010  1:02 PM
martin wrote:^ it was very funny to me when Gallo had Billups in a post-up in the second half and ended up with a bad fade-away jumper that clanked badly. Chauncy pretty much just pushed him around.

Next year will be different.

Remember that...Embarrassing

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12/13/2010  1:03 PM
What I like most about these two is

They both make big plays in the clutch!!!

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12/13/2010  1:07 PM
Gallo got some chicken legs for sure. No real explosion out of them, when shot is off it seems to be from lack of leg strength, and one of his big problems when he drives to basket he doesnt finish with strength from down below waist (you notice that he is kinda small and crouching on a lot of his layups and other-side-of-basket layups).
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12/13/2010  1:08 PM
martin wrote:^ it was very funny to me when Gallo had Billups in a post-up in the second half and ended up with a bad fade-away jumper that clanked badly. Chauncy pretty much just pushed him around.

Next year will be different.

I think Chauncey might very well be the best guard in the league when it comes to guarding the post up. He's built like an enormous pit bull. It's still bad though that Gallo can't have his way and needs to resolve to forcing up a fadeaway.

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