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Childs2Dudley
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12/5/2010  6:11 PM
The Knicks have made inquiries to other teams in search of a low-cost backup point guard to preserve the starter Raymond Felton, according to two N.B.A. executives with knowledge of the organization’s discussions. The Knicks are looking at players whose contract expires at the end of the season in order to keep their salary-cap space for the summer. They are willing to part with Bill Walker, according to the executives

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/sports/basketball/06knicks.html?_r=1&ref=basketball

Hopefully my prayers are answered soon and we get a backup PG in here because Douglas is not going to cut it.

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12/5/2010  6:14 PM
Just cut him and sign Scottie Reyholds--he shouldve bee drafted--he played well in the SL--hes a 4 year guy who can hit the 3ball with good size and he's the best PG so far in the D league. Go let Walker play for another team--no big deal.
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12/5/2010  6:18 PM
I'm a Nova grad- he's not the guy you want at PG - maybe hes putting up numbers in D-Leauge but he's a 2 gaurd in a pgs body - doesn't bring anything else to the knicks that Douglas doesn't already go - maybe he plays the PG slightly better but whatever you gain there you'll lose on defense - not a terrible defender but doesn't have great lateral movement ability and I think he'll struggle to keep PGs in front of him
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12/5/2010  7:03 PM
Is John Scheyer in the league somewhere?
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12/5/2010  7:16 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Just cut him and sign Scottie Reyholds--he shouldve bee drafted--he played well in the SL--hes a 4 year guy who can hit the 3ball with good size and he's the best PG so far in the D league. Go let Walker play for another team--no big deal.

this does give me an idea though. We could trade Walker or Rautins for future 2nd round picks and then sign a guy off the street for the min without going over the soft cap limit.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/5/2010  7:23 PM
waly01 wrote:I'm a Nova grad- he's not the guy you want at PG - maybe hes putting up numbers in D-Leauge but he's a 2 gaurd in a pgs body - doesn't bring anything else to the knicks that Douglas doesn't already go - maybe he plays the PG slightly better but whatever you gain there you'll lose on defense - not a terrible defender but doesn't have great lateral movement ability and I think he'll struggle to keep PGs in front of him

The guy is a producer and knows how to play the 4-1 set. 4 year player in a tough league--played very well in the SL and is playing great in the D league(also played well in Italy before coming home). In this offense you need a PG who can also make shots as well as pass and he can do that. His defense is fine + he has good hands and gets into the passing lane.
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12/5/2010  7:49 PM
Terrico White
Maynor
Luther Head
Earl Watson

These are the guys who would be obvious matches from a salary perspective

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/5/2010  8:53 PM
Not going to insert a rookie from the Dleague to the roatation. Sounds like we want a vet who can get a few minutes not develop a new player. Just my take.
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12/5/2010  9:08 PM
Whoever we get, I'm just glad the FO realizes this is a huge problem and TD isn't getting it done. If no trade, you know they're diligently searching the D-league.
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12/5/2010  9:29 PM
Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.9 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and +0.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Jason Williams
0-0 from
2.6 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 10.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Bill Walker
6-6 SF from Kansas State
7.5 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.5 minutes

Orlando Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.9 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -0.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Bill Walker
6-6 SF from Kansas State
7.5 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Williams
0-0 from
2.6 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 10.5 minutes

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12/5/2010  10:06 PM
backup pg is a HUGE need at the moment and getting any kind of veteran would help us immensely.

this does have a few repurcussions. is TD out of the rotation? does MDA go with a 10 man rotation?

backup pg X, shawne williams, mozgov/AR, Turiaf/Chandler, TD?

it could be mean a death knell for toney, which i would not mind with the way he's been playing.

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12/5/2010  11:20 PM
Well... if all we need is an insurance guy (and Mason Jr isn't him), last I checked Kevin Ollie is hanging out there somewhere in retirement. And Antonio Daniels is lighting things up in the DL.

What washed up, 30-something reliable journeymen PGs are out there, waiting for another shot at the league? (don't mention Steve Francis, Marbury, or Iverson!)

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12/5/2010  11:34 PM
Think a deal involving Eddie Curry for TJ Ford is the move.
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12/5/2010  11:59 PM
bring in Brevin Knight or Jannero Pargo for a tryout.
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12/6/2010  12:09 AM
So let's say Walker is traded for a backup PG. What happens to TD's minutes? Is he suddenly dropped from the rotation?

I do like this idea, as it seems clear Shawne is a more than service-able replacement for Walker

just curious

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12/6/2010  3:20 AM
Go get a guy like Chucky Atkins or Brevin Knight to come in an play 10 minutes a game. There have got to be at least 3-4 decent old vets that can play 10 minutes a game this year until we can draft someone next summer.
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12/6/2010  6:20 AM
What about Jerome Randle - Pac 10 player of the year and Landry speaks highly of him? He is only 5'9", which is why no-one drafted him. But he can lead a team and score. Might work well for 10 - 15 minutes a night. 19pts a game, 51% FG, 40% 3pt, only 4.3 assists...

The passing ability Jerome Randle showcased at the Portsmouth Invitational compliments his offensive productivity from last season quite well.

Despite his diminutive stature, Randle was one of the more impressive players in our analysis because of his jump shooting ability. His 54.3% adjusted FG% indicates that his prowess from the perimeter boosts his respectable 44.6% shooting from the field towards the top of the pack when pitted against his peers. Though he turned the ball over on 19.1% of his overall possessions, ranking him sixth amongst the players in our sample, his .974 points per-possession is good for fifth place and is a full tenth of a point higher than our third ranked point guard, Eric Bledsoe.

The driving force behind Randle’s success last season was his impeccable jump shooting ability. He took over 7 jumpers a game last season, and while he only connected on 38.4% of them, the majority of those shots were three pointers, making his 1.039 points per-jumper good for fourth best on this list. Though he doesn’t display a great pull up jumper, Randle is extremely competent shooting off the catch.

His ability to knock down shots in spot up situations is extremely impressive. Nearly two-thirds of his 3.3 catch and shoot jumpers per-game were defended, but he posted an adjusted field goal percentage of 64% and created 1.29 points-per shot in such situations. Clearly, Randle has learned to deal with the fact that he’s often shooting over much taller defenders, something that will help him considerably with his transition to the NBA game.

In addition to his surprising ability to make shots with the defense bearing down on him, Randle proves to be an average finisher, which, considering his size, is a pretty impressive accomplishment. He shot 51.3% on shots around the rim, which places him right in the middle of the pack and made him more efficient than bigger guards, such as Armon Johnson and Mikhail Torrance.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jerome-Randle-5778/#ixzz17KUcWLQF
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12/6/2010  8:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/6/2010  8:47 AM
earthman - great call on Jerome

Everyone in the country should know about the University of California’s Jerome Randle. He’s speedy. He shoots lights out. And this season, the senior guard has led the Golden Bears to the top of the Pacific-10 Conference. So what’s the hangup?

Size.

At 5-foot-10, 172 pounds, it is Randle’s only limiting factor, and the primary reason NBA scouts are overlooking him. Currently, most NBA mock drafts don’t even include Randle’s name as a possible selection. Not in the first round. Not in the second round. Nowhere. They have him going undrafted.

Randle, a top candidate for Pac-10 Player of the Year honors, has the numbers – he entered Saturday averaging 19.7 ppg and 4.6 apg – and the electrifying game to make him a household name at the next level. Maybe not as an NBA starter, but as a spark off the bench capable of lighting up the scoreboard? For sure.

Many of Randle’s attributes would be beneficial to an NBA team next season if one is wise enough to draft the Chicago, Illinois native. He is lightning-quick with incredible ball handling skills, and can get to the rim at will regardless of the defender guarding him. He also possesses great range on his jump shot and isn’t afraid to pull up a few feet from behind the 3-point line and nail them like they are 18-footers. When defenders move out to defend his perimeter game, he’s by them before they can react. And despite the speed and pace Randle frequently plays at, he is usually under control with the ball in his hands.

Randle dropped 33 points in a crucial February 11 win against Washington that kept the Bears atop the Pac-10 at 8-4.

“(Randle) is a really good offensive basketball player,” Washington coach Lorenzo Romar said after the game. He was zeroed in and focused and just played really efficient basketball. He was hard to stop.”

Randle also wreaked havoc on Washington State to the tune of 39 points (7-12 on 3-pointers) and 9 assists in a win on the Cougars’ home court on January 14.

Comparable players have made it at the next level. One is Aaron Brooks, another undersized point guard with cat-like quicks that used to torture the Pac-10. Brooks, now in his third season with the Houston Rockets, is starting and excelling as a pro. In fact, the University of Oregon product has almost identical numbers to Randle’s this year, and is considered one of the best young point guards in the league.

It’d be easy to overlook a player of Randle’s stature, especially with the size and talent of most guards currently residing in the NBA, but any team that drafts the Cal senior might just find a second-round steal who can help their franchise for years to come.

- Aaric Hickerson


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12/6/2010  8:58 AM
What is wrong with Toney Douglas? And too bad he didn't play more last year so he might be further developed this year. But he couldn't be trusted to run the point on a 29 win team
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12/6/2010  9:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/6/2010  9:06 AM
I continue to like Patrick Mills -- looked like he was buried out in Portland but recently McMillan dusted him off put him into some December games. Armon Johnson hasn't gotten into any Blazer games in December --- DNPs coach's decision..Not sure what that's all about, Johnson was playing pretty well for them in spot duty..Maybe he injuried himself..Anyway I see some real good potential & talent with this kid Mills. Right around 6'/6'1" so he's not too small, he quick, can shoot the ball, pass it and has nothing left to prove in the NBDL (where he dominated) or anywhere else..He's capable and ready for an understudy job in the NBA somewhere, maybe his own team eventually--just a matter of when and where..Hey, maybe it finally comes in Portland now..If it's only a minor injury with Armon Johnson where Mills sits once Johnson's ready, I'd try to get him if I were Donnie..

I also like 6'5" PG Nick Calathes -- playing in Greece, rights still owned by the Dallas Mavericks I believe...Really liked him at Florida -- plus size for the position, good passer/facilitator and he's a knockdown shooter with range. Give Dallas a call -- maybe we swap rights between Jerome Jordan & Calathes and call it a day..Esp. if we plan on picking up another big man somewhere else this year..

Knicks dangling Walker for backup PG

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