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BRIGGS
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12/3/2010  11:11 PM
I dont want 2 hear about Mosgov radnolph or anyone even Turriaf. We need a healthy reliable low post scorer who brings energy and can score.

Mosgov--wait 50 games and he might give us 4-3

MDA thinks Randolph belongs in the high school game of the week

Turriaf is not going to be reliable

There was a set there in the 2nd where we played no post and most teams usually go 2 big

We have the length on the perimeter to get rebounds but we need another guy who can score rebound run and be physical. No way we can get Thompson or Landry(or someone like that)? Were going to run Amare into the ground and eventually not get away with playing just 1 post all game long--who can play

We had a great offseason

we might've got the best player in the nBA
and we got a PG who is up there with anyone in this league


we made good deals for randolph and masgov but they arent working out for this team. We cant do a deal for randolph in a 3 way???

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12/3/2010  11:14 PM
Twenty games Briggs. We've only played twenty games.
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12/3/2010  11:18 PM
Eddy Curry!

I'm just kidding!

Sort of.

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12/3/2010  11:19 PM
Knicks don't run a post game though... it's pick and roll to death.

get a PnR player.

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12/3/2010  11:21 PM
You don't want to hear about Randolph yet you spent 2 years telling everyone about him.

Cool.

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12/3/2010  11:21 PM
martin wrote:Knicks don't run a post game though... it's pick and roll to death.

get a PnR player.

I think Lee would've played well next to Amare but we really needed to get that PG.

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12/3/2010  11:35 PM
VDesai wrote:
martin wrote:Knicks don't run a post game though... it's pick and roll to death.

get a PnR player.

I think Lee would've played well next to Amare but we really needed to get that PG.

Lee would have been awesome off the bench for the Knicks. Perfect in fact.

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12/3/2010  11:39 PM
Lee would be perfect.
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12/3/2010  11:45 PM
Lee with his hops should be able to block but he doesnt and I like Lee but I don't think he would be a good combo with STAT.
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12/3/2010  11:48 PM
Well we don't have Lee anymore, so we'll have to make due with guys like Timo, Turiaf, Williams and AR. I think the fact that we're winning games gives us a chance to keep working with the young bigs and developing them. It's not like Timo is a straight fail. He's making little mistakes but he's right there and so close to actually being a useful big for us. I say let him take his lumps now, so later in the year he can be useful to us.

I keep remembering how Pat Riley didn't use guys off the bench and then when the playoffs came along those same guys who might have been able to help hadn't played enough to be ready to help.

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12/3/2010  11:51 PM
I know this ship has sailed, but Earl Barron would've been perfect. Young, hungry and relatively cheap.
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12/3/2010  11:55 PM
nixluva wrote:Well we don't have Lee anymore, so we'll have to make due with guys like Timo, Turiaf, Williams and AR. I think the fact that we're winning games gives us a chance to keep working with the young bigs and developing them. It's not like Timo is a straight fail. He's making little mistakes but he's right there and so close to actually being a useful big for us. I say let him take his lumps now, so later in the year he can be useful to us.

I keep remembering how Pat Riley didn't use guys off the bench and then when the playoffs came along those same guys who might have been able to help hadn't played enough to be ready to help.

No--we need a post--Knicks must realize it. MDA just doesnt like randolph(thats obvious) and Time needs time to be a reasonable back up. Williams is a 3--hes not a post. If Turriaf was reliable health wise--maybe we could get away with it--hes just not.

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12/4/2010  12:08 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Well we don't have Lee anymore, so we'll have to make due with guys like Timo, Turiaf, Williams and AR. I think the fact that we're winning games gives us a chance to keep working with the young bigs and developing them. It's not like Timo is a straight fail. He's making little mistakes but he's right there and so close to actually being a useful big for us. I say let him take his lumps now, so later in the year he can be useful to us.

I keep remembering how Pat Riley didn't use guys off the bench and then when the playoffs came along those same guys who might have been able to help hadn't played enough to be ready to help.

No--we need a post--Knicks must realize it. MDA just doesnt like randolph(thats obvious) and Time needs time to be a reasonable back up. Williams is a 3--hes not a post. If Turriaf was reliable health wise--maybe we could get away with it--hes just not.

Hey don't knock Turiaf. A guy rolled up his leg!!! I mean how can you blame a guy for that. ANYONE can have that happen to them.

We have a young team and we have to develop 2 young bigs with talent. You can't give up that fast on two 7'er's that can block shots, run the floor, finish etc. You have to have some patience and allows these kids to develop. It's been 20 freakin games. It's not costin us wins right now. We can see the need, but at the same time why destroy the opportunity for us to develop or own players?

Unless you can bring in someone that has the same upside, I don't see a reason to give up on AR & Timo so soon.

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12/4/2010  12:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/4/2010  12:56 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Well we don't have Lee anymore, so we'll have to make due with guys like Timo, Turiaf, Williams and AR. I think the fact that we're winning games gives us a chance to keep working with the young bigs and developing them. It's not like Timo is a straight fail. He's making little mistakes but he's right there and so close to actually being a useful big for us. I say let him take his lumps now, so later in the year he can be useful to us.

I keep remembering how Pat Riley didn't use guys off the bench and then when the playoffs came along those same guys who might have been able to help hadn't played enough to be ready to help.

No--we need a post--Knicks must realize it. MDA just doesnt like randolph(thats obvious) and Time needs time to be a reasonable back up. Williams is a 3--hes not a post. If Turriaf was reliable health wise--maybe we could get away with it--hes just not.

I understand and support your logic here -- I just think we can make the enhancement without surrendering important assets to acquire the middle of the road to slightly above average vet-type player you're talking about acquiring..

I threw out a bunch of names the other day and will continue to do so --- Dwayne Jones (6'11" NBDL all-star C averaged 18 pts, 16 rebs and almost 2 blks a game last year in the D-League), Josh Boone, even a Courtney Sims if the concern is for a little more of an offensive big over a straight up dirty-work/banger type...I mean don't you go there first before surrendering important trading assets for a guy like Jason Thompson or Carl Landry?? That's my thing..Sac isn't gonna just hand us either guy for Rautins and 2 future 2s...And as of right now, AR has no trade value courtesy of MDA..Zero.

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12/4/2010  12:20 AM
Finestrg wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Well we don't have Lee anymore, so we'll have to make due with guys like Timo, Turiaf, Williams and AR. I think the fact that we're winning games gives us a chance to keep working with the young bigs and developing them. It's not like Timo is a straight fail. He's making little mistakes but he's right there and so close to actually being a useful big for us. I say let him take his lumps now, so later in the year he can be useful to us.

I keep remembering how Pat Riley didn't use guys off the bench and then when the playoffs came along those same guys who might have been able to help hadn't played enough to be ready to help.

No--we need a post--Knicks must realize it. MDA just doesnt like randolph(thats obvious) and Time needs time to be a reasonable back up. Williams is a 3--hes not a post. If Turriaf was reliable health wise--maybe we could get away with it--hes just not.

I understand and support your logic here -- I just think we can make the enhancement without surrendering important assets to acquire the middle of the road to slightly above average vet-type player you're looking for..

I threw out a bunch of names the other day and will continue to do so --- Dwayne Jones (6'11" NBDL all-star C averaged 18 pts, 16 rebs and almost 2 blks a game last year in the D-League), Josh Boone, even a Courtney Sims if the concern is for a little more of an offensive big over a straight up dirty-work/banger type...I mean don't you go there first before surrendering important trading assets for a guy like Jason Thompson or Carl Landry?? That's my thing..Sac isn't gonna just hand us either guy for Rautins and 2 future 2s...And as of right now, AR has no trade value courtesy of MDA..Zero.

wow, is this dude playing in the NBA right now? Where is he?

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12/4/2010  12:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/4/2010  12:45 AM
martin wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Well we don't have Lee anymore, so we'll have to make due with guys like Timo, Turiaf, Williams and AR. I think the fact that we're winning games gives us a chance to keep working with the young bigs and developing them. It's not like Timo is a straight fail. He's making little mistakes but he's right there and so close to actually being a useful big for us. I say let him take his lumps now, so later in the year he can be useful to us.

I keep remembering how Pat Riley didn't use guys off the bench and then when the playoffs came along those same guys who might have been able to help hadn't played enough to be ready to help.

No--we need a post--Knicks must realize it. MDA just doesnt like randolph(thats obvious) and Time needs time to be a reasonable back up. Williams is a 3--hes not a post. If Turriaf was reliable health wise--maybe we could get away with it--hes just not.

I understand and support your logic here -- I just think we can make the enhancement without surrendering important assets to acquire the middle of the road to slightly above average vet-type player you're looking for..

I threw out a bunch of names the other day and will continue to do so --- Dwayne Jones (6'11" NBDL all-star C averaged 18 pts, 16 rebs and almost 2 blks a game last year in the D-League), Josh Boone, even a Courtney Sims if the concern is for a little more of an offensive big over a straight up dirty-work/banger type...I mean don't you go there first before surrendering important trading assets for a guy like Jason Thompson or Carl Landry?? That's my thing..Sac isn't gonna just hand us either guy for Rautins and 2 future 2s...And as of right now, AR has no trade value courtesy of MDA..Zero.

wow, is this dude playing in the NBA right now? Where is he?

Nah, I don't think so. He was brought back in by PHX for training camp (2nd stint with them) and then cut right before the season started...I think he'd be perfect. Just sitting by the phone waiting for a phone call as far as I know.


And Josh Boone could supply a lot of the same intangibles we get outta Turiaf. Same boat as Jones, just biding his time waiting for the phone call. I mean if the Heat added a washed up Erick Dampier for the same purpose, why can't we go out and get either of these guys? They're both younger and better options than Dampier imho..Not sure what the Heat gave Damp (shamsports & hoopshype don't have his salary listed) but I bet either of these guys would come cheaper too..


Cut Mason, bring in one of these guys on the cheap to take his place and hang onto your assets. If that doesn't work out then maybe you go in a different direction..But you try this first..A before B..

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12/4/2010  12:29 AM
no to boone, he looks too much like a poodle.
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12/4/2010  12:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/4/2010  1:01 AM
martin wrote:no to boone, he looks too much like a poodle.

LOL! And Turiaf looks like the Creeper from Jeepers Creepers.



All kidding aside, Boone, like Turiaf, is a solid defensive big man. I'm actually really surprised he doesn't have a job right now..There's a spot for Josh Boone somewhere in the NBA...I think he'd be great here...Love my boy Ronny btw..Just having some fun.

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12/4/2010  12:55 AM
Finestrg wrote:
martin wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Well we don't have Lee anymore, so we'll have to make due with guys like Timo, Turiaf, Williams and AR. I think the fact that we're winning games gives us a chance to keep working with the young bigs and developing them. It's not like Timo is a straight fail. He's making little mistakes but he's right there and so close to actually being a useful big for us. I say let him take his lumps now, so later in the year he can be useful to us.

I keep remembering how Pat Riley didn't use guys off the bench and then when the playoffs came along those same guys who might have been able to help hadn't played enough to be ready to help.

No--we need a post--Knicks must realize it. MDA just doesnt like randolph(thats obvious) and Time needs time to be a reasonable back up. Williams is a 3--hes not a post. If Turriaf was reliable health wise--maybe we could get away with it--hes just not.

I understand and support your logic here -- I just think we can make the enhancement without surrendering important assets to acquire the middle of the road to slightly above average vet-type player you're looking for..

I threw out a bunch of names the other day and will continue to do so --- Dwayne Jones (6'11" NBDL all-star C averaged 18 pts, 16 rebs and almost 2 blks a game last year in the D-League), Josh Boone, even a Courtney Sims if the concern is for a little more of an offensive big over a straight up dirty-work/banger type...I mean don't you go there first before surrendering important trading assets for a guy like Jason Thompson or Carl Landry?? That's my thing..Sac isn't gonna just hand us either guy for Rautins and 2 future 2s...And as of right now, AR has no trade value courtesy of MDA..Zero.

wow, is this dude playing in the NBA right now? Where is he?

Nah, I don't think so. He was brought back in by PHX for training camp (2nd stint with them) and then cut right before the season started...I think he'd be perfect. Just sitting by the phone waiting for a phone call as far as I know.


And Josh Boone could supply a lot of the same intangibles we get outta Turiaf. Same boat as Jones, just biding his time waiting for the phone call. I mean if the Heat added a washed up Erick Dampier for the same purpose, why can't we go out and get either of these guys? They're both younger and better options than Dampier imho..Not sure what the Heat gave Damp (shamsports & hoopshype don't have his salary listed) but I bet either of these guys would come cheaper too..


Cut Mason, bring in one of these guys on the cheap to take his place and hang onto your assets. If that doesn't work out then maybe you go in a different direction..But you try this first..A before B..

I think Josh Boone would be great. He is a low key guy like Wil but he would feed off of Amare and he has more than enough talent to be a good big in the nba. I think Boone would be a 7 and 7 guy with the Knicks with a block and I think he would be efficient in his minutes and he might improve dramatically on those numbers. Rautins and Mason are a waste of spots so it would not be a big deal to add him. He might be the same age as Rautins.

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12/4/2010  1:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/4/2010  1:17 AM
Rautins I'm not ready to give up on...He's young, was a gamer in college with a pretty high IQ for the game, has some budding PG skills that I think can be honed and he's a very good shooter..I think this kid can help us eventually...Mason Jr's a different story -- he's a fish out of water here..
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