we have 2 championship level pieces at the 1 and 4 with Amare and Felton.

All we need now is to fill in the blanks.

A dominant outside scorer is necessary (Melo)

A physical big center that can rebound

A stronger bench.

we are not that far away Knick fans.... People always compare Nash and Felton.. while Nash might be the better passer/shooter.. Felton is a FAR superior defender... I really don't think we need to focus on CP3... If only we could find a way to sign Melo and keep Chandler this summer... then we'd really look strong.

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

I would say Chandler is getting very close. As for Gallo, while I really like his defense, I still think he settles way too much before he can be considered that.

Personally, I think we should find another big body for cheap that can grab some boards and play a little D' while Mozgov and AR develop and Turiaf heals. Who that is, I don't know.

Melo isn't nearly as important as people make him out to be.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Funny, I was thinking the same thing. The knicks have 2 out of the big 3 (at least 3) that you need. If somehow they get Melo, then you have 3 legit scoring options and 3 legit players.

If you match up the Miami 3 vs the potential NY 3, NY gets the edge with STAT, and Miami gets the slight edge of LBJ over Melo and an edge of Wade vs Felton. I think NY then gets the edge from the rest of the roster depending on what they give up to get Melo. If he comes via FA, then NY could be better than Miami next season.

As for a Boston matchup, you give Boston the edge as Rondo makes it a big 4. However, due to age on Boston's side, A Knick team with Melo, Ray and STAT could cause some damage in a 7 game series. Next season, with one more year of mileage, that NY 3 will have the edge, IMO.

That leaves Orlando. Nelson = Ray, Howard > STAT (pretty close though), Melo > Lewis. NY bench is better.

So, in the end, the analysis is for NY to wait and sign Melo as a FA if at all possible. If not, they need to trade away AR, TD, Curry but not Wil, Gallo or Fields.

I think Denver is going to want almost ALL of AR, TD, Curry, AND Wil, Gallo and Fields. Or at least most of them. They are going to want to gut this roster for Melo, especially with the way he is playing. It's not worth trading for him right now at this point. He's the same player with a couple of extra boards. If you really want him, then go after him in free agency. If you can't, then there's other ways.

Allanfan20 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Funny, I was thinking the same thing. The knicks have 2 out of the big 3 (at least 3) that you need. If somehow they get Melo, then you have 3 legit scoring options and 3 legit players.

If you match up the Miami 3 vs the potential NY 3, NY gets the edge with STAT, and Miami gets the slight edge of LBJ over Melo and an edge of Wade vs Felton. I think NY then gets the edge from the rest of the roster depending on what they give up to get Melo. If he comes via FA, then NY could be better than Miami next season.

As for a Boston matchup, you give Boston the edge as Rondo makes it a big 4. However, due to age on Boston's side, A Knick team with Melo, Ray and STAT could cause some damage in a 7 game series. Next season, with one more year of mileage, that NY 3 will have the edge, IMO.

That leaves Orlando. Nelson = Ray, Howard > STAT (pretty close though), Melo > Lewis. NY bench is better.

So, in the end, the analysis is for NY to wait and sign Melo as a FA if at all possible. If not, they need to trade away AR, TD, Curry but not Wil, Gallo or Fields.

I think Denver is going to want almost ALL of AR, TD, Curry, AND Wil, Gallo and Fields. Or at least most of them. They are going to want to gut this roster for Melo, especially with the way he is playing. It's not worth trading for him right now at this point. He's the same player with a couple of extra boards. If you really want him, then go after him in free agency. If you can't, then there's other ways.

I am afraid you are right. In the end, I agree wait to sign him. Let these guys learn how to win without him and then add that kind of piece in the summer. Meanwhile, the roster gets even more valauble as trading pieces and perhaps you can even add another player through a summer deal or heck even the draft!

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:

markvmc wrote:Those don't count until they do it in another team's uniform.

clearly

Hey, I like Gallo and Wilson... but for me, they don't count AS MUCH until they do it in a game like that Atlanta game or maybe in New Orleans.

Do it against a good team. Beat quality teams. Create their own shot when the defense clamps down.

I am opposed to trading half the team for Melo, but I'm not opposed to adding him in FA. I think the guy adds an element that can't be re-created by matching his point total. Adding Melo over Wilson/Gallo is like upgrading from DLee to Amare. There's a superstar element - an ability to make any shot he wants - an ability to have the other team playing on its heels and reeling.

Adding Melo to a core of Amar'e/Felton/Fields/Wilson/Turiaf would be incredible. We would be a 55-60 win team, IMHO and instant contenders.

Is Paul Pierce going to shut down Melo? I don't think so. is the trio of Wade/Bron/Bosh better than Felton/Melo/Amare? maybe, but Felton/Melo/Amare all complement one another pretty damn nicely and if we don't gut our team to make a trade, we'll have a FAAAAAAAR better core around those three than Miami can literally EVER dream of.

exactly, its not a diss at all to gallo and wilson, because look at the player in camparison in the upgrade.

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:

markvmc wrote:Those don't count until they do it in another team's uniform.

clearly

Hey, I like Gallo and Wilson... but for me, they don't count AS MUCH until they do it in a game like that Atlanta game or maybe in New Orleans.

Do it against a good team. Beat quality teams. Create their own shot when the defense clamps down.

I am opposed to trading half the team for Melo, but I'm not opposed to adding him in FA. I think the guy adds an element that can't be re-created by matching his point total. Adding Melo over Wilson/Gallo is like upgrading from DLee to Amare. There's a superstar element - an ability to make any shot he wants - an ability to have the other team playing on its heels and reeling.

Adding Melo to a core of Amar'e/Felton/Fields/Wilson/Turiaf would be incredible. We would be a 55-60 win team, IMHO and instant contenders.

Is Paul Pierce going to shut down Melo? I don't think so. is the trio of Wade/Bron/Bosh better than Felton/Melo/Amare? maybe, but Felton/Melo/Amare all complement one another pretty damn nicely and if we don't gut our team to make a trade, we'll have a FAAAAAAAR better core around those three than Miami can literally EVER dream of.

Eh... at this point I'm 100% ok with seeing how this roster gells and gets better.

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:if we can add another go to scorer i'd be perfectly fine with Felton as the starting PG... i think a Felton/Melo/Amare trio can be a nice foundation for us to build on.

how many 25 point nights do Chandler and Gallo have to put up before they are considered legit scoring options?

i said go to scorer... try & follow along.

until Gallo or Wilson can put up a 20+ ppg type season, i consider Melo a big upgrade in the scoring department... but oh yeah that's right, 25 ppg scorers like Melo are highly overrated to you. lol