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BRIGGS
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11/30/2010  4:10 PM
I want to keep the line up we used the last game--with Turriaf and Mosgov coming off the bench. Id rather have more offense on the floor and it forces Gallo and Chandler to concentrate on rebounding which can lead to opportunistic opportunities for both. Id like to see both guys near 20 tonight just like last game.
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11/30/2010  4:11 PM
Nets actually have a center unlike Detroit.
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11/30/2010  4:13 PM
I don't want to become to use to the small lineup. You know and I know that small lineup only take you so far.
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11/30/2010  4:35 PM
It's flashy but we haven't gotten off to good enough starts with the small lineup to warrant starting it full time. Turiaf has been playing very well and should continue starting as long as he keeps this play up.
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11/30/2010  4:52 PM
doesn't make sense looking at the nets lineup. Would prefer some girth to battle to start. I would like to see gallo look to get involved in the offense as early as possible.
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11/30/2010  10:02 PM
I could hear 100 negative answers and Id think you're all wrong. this is an offensive team. Wilson Chandler is an all star caliber player if given 38+ minutes. The goal is to outscore the opponent and Wilson starting and playing 38+ gives us the best chance to do that.
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11/30/2010  10:07 PM
I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up
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SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

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11/30/2010  10:20 PM
Briggs, you really want to have Amare guarding Emeka Okafor in New Orleans? Who guards David West? I think starting the game with Turiaf and playing Chandler 35+ minutes off the bench is the way to go.
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11/30/2010  10:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/30/2010  10:21 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

You're not going to field a championship squad doing that, agreed, but this obviously isn't a championship roster either. There is something to be said for maximizing what you have available. It's crazy to think that this team is a finished product and to pretend otherwise is just unwise

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11/30/2010  10:22 PM
I was happy with Wilson of the bench. The bench unit also needs a scoring punch and he was supplying it. Turiaf absolutely gets his job back becuase of his impact on defense ad to relieve Amare from playing center.
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11/30/2010  10:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

Mozgov doesn't suck. So...yeah.

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BRIGGS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

Mozgov doesn't suck. So...yeah.

Mosgov is not an NBA player right now. He cant even hold on to the ball.

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11/30/2010  10:28 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

Mozgov doesn't suck. So...yeah.

Mosgov is not an NBA player right now. He cant even hold on to the ball.

Nobody cares about being an NBA player right now. He is a foreign rookie who doesn't even know how to speak english well yet. Give him time before trying to trade anyone. You did the same thing with a guy you were begging for like Anthony Randolph.

Have some patience.

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crzymdups wrote:Briggs, you really want to have Amare guarding Emeka Okafor in New Orleans? Who guards David West? I think starting the game with Turiaf and playing Chandler 35+ minutes off the bench is the way to go.

We need another quality big that comes off the bench in a 28 minute role. We played a team that had

7-1 260 Brook Lopez
6-11 245 Troy Murphy
6-10 245 Kris Humperies
6-9 245 Derrick favors

and we pasted them. Our team speed and skill is very good in the starting unit. But to get to the next level we nee a Pail Millspa type bench player a big who can give us quality play. If not Jason Thompsonm--Ill take Landry--they cant play them all!! Landry would be perfect for this team.

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11/30/2010  10:32 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

Mozgov doesn't suck. So...yeah.

Mosgov is not an NBA player right now. He cant even hold on to the ball.

Nobody cares about being an NBA player right now. He is a foreign rookie who doesn't even know how to speak english well yet. Give him time before trying to trade anyone. You did the same thing with a guy you were begging for like Anthony Randolph.

Have some patience.

I dont care about next year--this is a win now team. We haev a 25-10 frontcourt player and a 20-10 PG with 3 very nice players around them. Im not looking to develop a player--I want production from all--Mosgov should play... in the D league--go get Me Carl Landry or Thompson for the bench.

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11/30/2010  10:34 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

Mozgov doesn't suck. So...yeah.

Mosgov is not an NBA player right now. He cant even hold on to the ball.

Nobody cares about being an NBA player right now. He is a foreign rookie who doesn't even know how to speak english well yet. Give him time before trying to trade anyone. You did the same thing with a guy you were begging for like Anthony Randolph.

Have some patience.

I dont care about next year--this is a win now team. We haev a 25-10 frontcourt player and a 20-10 PG with 3 very nice players around them. Im not looking to develop a player--I want production from all--Mosgov should play... in the D league--go get Me Carl Landry or Thompson for the bench.

Why get someone to replace Chandler's production from the bench when you can just have, well, Chandler provide the same, except when a match up dictates otherwise?

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11/30/2010  10:35 PM
mozgov and randolph are both going to be different players in march and april than they are right now. you can tell randolph is getting more comfortable already. he made some real nice plays today. the fact that d'antoni doesn't even play him 5 minutes is frustrating but what can you do with he's so stubborn its silly. we can only hope AR follows what TD did last yr and gradually sees his minutes go up over the course of the year.

briggs i agree on adding another quality big but i'm not sure what you're giving up. this team is pretty thin right now. we just need to be patient and see the returns with mozgov and AR. briggs seriously you advocated for AR for YEARS and you've given up on him in 15 games. gimme a break, show some patience and he'll be an impact 21 yo 7 footer off the bench by spring time. its a long season.

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11/30/2010  10:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/30/2010  10:36 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Briggs, you really want to have Amare guarding Emeka Okafor in New Orleans? Who guards David West? I think starting the game with Turiaf and playing Chandler 35+ minutes off the bench is the way to go.

We need another quality big that comes off the bench in a 28 minute role. We played a team that had

7-1 260 Brook Lopez
6-11 245 Troy Murphy
6-10 245 Kris Humperies
6-9 245 Derrick favors

and we pasted them. Our team speed and skill is very good in the starting unit. But to get to the next level we nee a Pail Millspa type bench player a big who can give us quality play. If not Jason Thompsonm--Ill take Landry--they cant play them all!! Landry would be perfect for this team.

I consider Carl Landry more of an offensive guy, almost like a Wilson Chandler (without Wilson's D).

I think the key is to develop Anthony Randolph. Donnie knew what he was doing when he got AR on the cheap. AR is better than Jason Thompson - he just needs to crack the rotation and play within himself.

You and I both know AR can put up 10ppg and 8rpg and 2 blocks in 24 minutes if he finds himself in this system.

Develop AR and get Kelenna healthy and you are looking at a 48 win team going into free agency with a max slot.

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11/30/2010  10:41 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I woud like for the starting line up to be determined by match up. There's obviously not one "best" line up

No--thats not how you build a team. We do need another big. Mosgov scks and Amare cant play 43 minutes nightly.

Mozgov doesn't suck. So...yeah.

Mosgov is not an NBA player right now. He cant even hold on to the ball.

Nobody cares about being an NBA player right now. He is a foreign rookie who doesn't even know how to speak english well yet. Give him time before trying to trade anyone. You did the same thing with a guy you were begging for like Anthony Randolph.

Have some patience.

I dont care about next year--this is a win now team. We haev a 25-10 frontcourt player and a 20-10 PG with 3 very nice players around them. Im not looking to develop a player--I want production from all--Mosgov should play... in the D league--go get Me Carl Landry or Thompson for the bench.

You're never looking to develop a player.

Every year you support guys then want to trade them after 3 bad games. It's never changed.

Felton is not averaging 20 and 10. 17 and 7 is his niche and where he will be this season.

We're not a championship team to be saying we're not developing players. We're 1 game over .500 after 19 games and a majority of wins have come against below average teams. This is no time to trade your future for role players. This is a team to keep what you have and develop from within. We're not "winning now" with this team because the definition of "win now" is winning a title. This team isn't winning a title, not now and not with Landry and/or Thompson.

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