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GustavBahler
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11/29/2010  11:45 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5862172

The Miami Heat's players are frustrated with Erik Spoelstra and some are questioning whether he is the right coach for their team, according to people close to the situation.

With the ballyhooed Heat losing four of their last five games and sporting a mediocre 9-8 record, the players are privately grumbling about Spoelstra on several fronts.

Sources say the players believe he is not letting them be themselves, that they are questioning his offensive strategies, and that they think he is panicking because he fears losing his job.


Stein on Spoelstra's situation

The pressure on Heat coach Erik Spoelstra has been simmering for a while. ESPN.com's Marc Stein has some perspective on where we've been, and where we might be headed. Blog

In contrast to the popular view that Spoelstra has been hesitant to jump on superstars LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, sources say the Heat coach has shown no fear in criticizing them.

Exhibit A was a recent shootaround in which Spoelstra told James that he had to get more serious. The source said Spoelstra called James out in front of the entire team, telling him, "I can't tell when you're serious."

"He's jumping on them," one source said. "If anything, he's been too tough on them. Everybody knows LeBron is playful and likes to joke around, but Spoelstra told him in front of the whole team that he has to get more serious. The players couldn't believe it. They feel like Spoelstra's not letting them be themselves."

It is not known whether the players voiced their concerns about Spoelstra during their players-only meeting following Saturday's loss at Dallas. Nor is it apparent whether the bump between James and Spoelstra during a timeout in that game was accidental or a result of tension between the two.

Following the loss Saturday to Dallas, Wade said: "I never would put anything on the coach -- win, lose or draw -- because they can give us the game plan but they're not on the court playing. ... Now it's time to take ownership. This is our team, even though we respect our coaches for what they do."

Spoelstra was not immediately available for comment. The Heat has a shootaround Monday morning in preparation for a game against Washington later in the day.

According to the sources, the Heat players believe Spoelstra's offensive strategies have been too simplistic. They feel like he is running nothing but pick-and-rolls and telling the Heat's secondary players to find open spots on the floor for catch-and-shoot jumpers.

The sources said the players also think the constant speculation about Spoelstra's job security is getting to the third-year coach and that he has resorted to nitpicking over minor details because of it.

"He's not a motivator," one of the sources said. "Instead of coaching he's at the point where the players are starting to sense that he's fearing for his job."

"I don't worry about changes," Wade said on Saturday. "I can't control them. Only thing we can control is our effort and the way we play."

Mike & Mike in the Morning

ESPN NBA Insider Chris Broussard says players on the Heat are questioning whether Erik Spoelstra is the right coach for the team and Heat players think Spoelstra is panicking about his job security.

Several people close to the situation said Wade definitely does not want team president Pat Riley to come down to the sidelines. Sources also said that while recruiting players this past summer, Riley insisted that he would not coach the team.

"Riley kept saying 'Spoelstra's a good coach and he'll grow into a great coach,' " a source said. "He said he got his coaching break [with the Los Angeles Lakers] around the same age as Spoelstra got his."

It is widely believed that Riley does not want to coach this season. However, one source said that privately Riley has at times been critical of the Heat's game-planning.

While expectations around the league have started to lessen for the Heat because of their struggles, the sources said the players still have a championship-or-bust mentality for this season and that they are open to whatever changes are necessary to get there.

While the players think that may mean a coaching change, one member of the Heat organization said the team is suffering from a lack of leadership from the players, not the coach.

"They don't want to step on each other's toes," the person said. "There's no leader on the team. Somebody has to speak up and be the leader on the team. They can't be afraid to step on people's toes. They need a vocal leader who's going to make everybody accountable. I don't think it's on the coach. It's on the players."

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine. Information from The Associated Press is included in this report.

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11/29/2010  11:52 AM
BWAHAHAHA!!!
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11/29/2010  11:58 AM
What's even better is we are sitting a 1/2 game behind them in the standings. Wouldn't it be great if we could ride alongside them for most of the season? It could happen, as our team is really starting to gel.
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11/29/2010  12:12 PM
I know it's petty, but i'm enjoying every loss and every report of the Heat having internal problems. After the way they celebrated it turned me off to them and I can't see them lose enough games. It's my new pastime. I check in to see how they're doing and I've been loving the struggle. Don't know how long this will last, but it's fun to watch. Maybe they implode.
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11/29/2010  12:14 PM
Lebron and Bosh didnt come to Miami to be coached by SPO. Riley convinced them to come to Miami and they want Riley as their coach.
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11/29/2010  12:15 PM
i saw the heat/magic game-- heat were not out-coached they were out-played. lebron and wade are way too identical, they both like to keep busy with the ball. bosh looks like odd man out but at least his game is more complimentary to lebron and wade; LeWa life would be easier if they included bosh in a triangle threat; with the two covering the wings and bosh roaming paint\midrange.
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11/29/2010  12:21 PM
Spoelstra is the only player in this pathetic odyssey that I feel for. He was put in a no-win situation.

Remember: when it comes to LeBron, it's always someone else's fault.

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11/29/2010  12:26 PM
No, they don't want Riles as the coach. Riles is brutal. He was very upfront that Eric is the coach when they signed.

Riles needs to go down there and assure Eric he is the man and tell the players to work thru it with him.

Lebron is a mental midget and thinks the heat are the olympic team and they gonna have a fun in the sun.

Guess he forgot the cap and the fact his support team is a not up to championship levels.

Think a guy like Lebron wouldn't appreciate a Landry Fields? A real point guard? A beast like Amare? A creative coach?

Its nice to have fun and put on a show, but this is "Show business" and they have to put a lot of mental energy into it.

He burned thru a great coach in Mike Brown for some fantasy south beach thing.

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11/29/2010  12:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2010  12:37 PM
Gymkata wrote:Spoelstra is the only player in this pathetic odyssey that I feel for. He was put in a no-win situation.

Remember: when it comes to LeBron, it's always someone else's fault.

Exactly, spoelstra wasn't the one dancing on stage like puffy in a biggie video, that was bosh, wade and bron.

Bron isn't going to say anything to wade, bosh isn't going to say anything to bron, wade isn't going to say anything to either one of them, and the rest of the team dear not say a peep...So where's the leadership

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11/29/2010  12:37 PM
LOL at dudes acting like Spoelstra is a great coach. If they didnt have Wade he'd be fired long ago.
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11/29/2010  12:41 PM
I'd like to know what happens in a Miami players-only meeting. Wade and Bron both shooting under 44% on the season (both < 27% from 3pt) with Bosh averaging around 7 rebounds a game (and media says Amare has a rebounding problem). They man up and stare each other down or do they call out the likes of Chambers and Arroyo and James Jones for being exactly what they should be?
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11/29/2010  12:42 PM
AnubisADL wrote:LOL at dudes acting like Spoelstra is a great coach. If they didnt have Wade he'd be fired long ago.

Its riles that annointed him as a coach in the making.

This one is on the GM who constructed the team and the idiot from Akron who wanted it as such.

The roster is 3 deep.

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11/29/2010  12:46 PM
martin wrote:I'd like to know what happens in a Miami players-only meeting. Wade and Bron both shooting under 44% on the season (both < 27% from 3pt) with Bosh averaging around 7 rebounds a game (and media says Amare has a rebounding problem). They man up and stare each other down or do they call out the likes of Chambers and Arroyo and James Jones for being exactly what they should be?

were they there in the players only meeting to talk about their problems on the court, or which club they were going to after the game? Probably hard to tell the two apart.

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11/29/2010  12:48 PM
If Riles were smart, he should trade Lebron straight up for Chris Paul!
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11/29/2010  12:57 PM
franco12 wrote:If Riles were smart, he should trade Lebron straight up for Chris Paul!

Chris Paul is not the type of player that can succeed with Wade either. Wade or LeBron needs a PG like Fisher is to Kobe or Kerr/Paxson/BJArmstrong is to Jordan. Unless one of them decides to be just like Ron Harper or Pippen and defer to the other, they will never succeed. Bosh is just dudu.

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11/29/2010  1:01 PM
Wade needs to stop trying to draw fouls and start hitting mid range jumpers. Wade seems to only score on ISO's.

I know Im going to get laughed at but Miami would be better off with Arenas than Wade at this point.

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11/29/2010  1:04 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Wade needs to stop trying to draw fouls and start hitting mid range jumpers. Wade seems to only score on ISO's.

I know Im going to get laughed at but Miami would be better off with Arenas than Wade at this point.

I think you are right. Arenas is more spot up now than playmaker. He would fit in nicely with LeDouche.

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11/29/2010  1:05 PM
This is good news. I hope it continues falling apart. The unholy union never should've happened and it really didn't make sense from a basketball or legacy standpoint. A lot of us saw this before the signing even occurred. Wade + Bosh would've been fine. LeBron + Bosh would've been fine. LeBron + Wade would've been tough to pull off, but maybe could've worked. The three together was an utter recipe for disaster. You have three guys who dominate the ball, but only one ball. It doesn't make any sense. If they don't figure it out, I can see one of the "big three" getting traded after year 2.

I do feel bad for Spoelstra also, because he was put in an impossible situation: Win and you're a coach who simply won with the best trio in the modern era; nothing special. Lose and you're the scapegoat.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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11/29/2010  1:10 PM
These guys are mental midgets. Bird/McHale/Parish, Magic/Worthy/Jabbar all made it happen even though these guys needed to dominate the ball. Wade/LeDouche/Bosh is just not very good team players.
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11/29/2010  1:10 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Wade needs to stop trying to draw fouls and start hitting mid range jumpers. Wade seems to only score on ISO's.

I know Im going to get laughed at but Miami would be better off with Arenas than Wade at this point.

Is it just me, or is Wade a really bad shooter?

And if he isn't getting fouled and phantom calls, how is he going to score?

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