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JrZyHuStLa
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11/26/2010  11:23 AM
Since we now have the best big man to wear a Knicks uniform since Patrick, I decided to compare the two. When Stat is done, who will have had the better career. As of now, its Ewing, but as we all know, winning changes a few things.

Ewing's career scoring average is 21.0, wich a rebounding average of 9.8

Stat is currently at 21.4, and 8.9 boards.

These are almost identical numbers. On the court, they're both excellent finishers (except for that ugly finger roll Ewing tried lol).
Ewing was a much better defensive presence though. And his teams in the 90s were consistenly in the top 5. Ewing never had the PG that Stat had, but Amar'e has also proven so far that he doesn't need a HOF type PG. The FT% is identical as well. Amar'e shoots 4% better from the field. Both have excellent mid range games.

Any thoughts?
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11/26/2010  11:27 AM
Honestly, I don't think there's much comparison between the two. Ewing was much better. Amare is at his peak now and Ewing played well past his peak. If you look across all their stats when Ewing was also at his peak, he's clearly better on both ends of the court. (which of course is not to say that Amare isn't very good also)
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11/26/2010  11:31 AM
ItalianStallion wrote:Honestly, I don't think there's much comparison between the two. Ewing was much better. Amare is at his peak now and Ewing played well past his peak. If you look across all their stats when Ewing was also at his peak, he's clearly better on both ends of the court. (which of course is not to say that Amare isn't very good also)

And the NBA has changed so much from the 90s. Patrick Ewing could average 30 and 15 if he played in this era.
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11/26/2010  11:34 AM
Ewing played for like 4 years when he was totally injury ridden and old bringing his avg way down.. Amare has yet to do that... not fair comparison.. Ewing was a better player, but Stat is def an Elite big man
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11/26/2010  11:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2010  11:40 AM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Since we now have the best big man to wear a Knicks uniform since Patrick, I decided to compare the two. When Stat is done, who will have had the better career. As of now, its Ewing, but as we all know, winning changes a few things.

Ewing's career scoring average is 21.0, wich a rebounding average of 9.8

Stat is currently at 21.4, and 8.9 boards.

These are almost identical numbers. On the court, they're both excellent finishers (except for that ugly finger roll Ewing tried lol).
Ewing was a much better defensive presence though. And his teams in the 90s were consistenly in the top 5. Ewing never had the PG that Stat had, but Amar'e has also proven so far that he doesn't need a HOF type PG. The FT% is identical as well. Amar'e shoots 4% better from the field. Both have excellent mid range games.

Any thoughts?


I'll echo what others have said. However, according to basketballreference.com, Ewing's career #s are 22.0 and 10.3
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ewingpa01.html

Edit: Nevermind! I was looking at the per 36 min #s.
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11/26/2010  11:39 AM
Cant compare Ewings career numbers to Amares curren numbers. As the poster above mentioned, Ewings numbers tailed off due to playing way past his prime.

Ewing at 27 (I blieve Amare is 27) put up the following numbers: 28.6 PPG, 10.9 RBS, 4 blks.

As well as Amare has played, defensively its not that close, and Ewing will also get the nod offensively because you feed Ewing in the post and he had go to moves to get you a much needed basket. Ewing was pure out to 15 feet, the sweeping hook across the lane and the turnaround baseline. Amare gets by mainly with athletic darts to the basket if he not getting set up by the pg. Also, Ewing was a legit center, Amare is a pure PF. Hard to compare the two.
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11/26/2010  11:56 AM
IMO, there is no comparison. Ewing was much better.
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11/26/2010  12:05 PM
Better career?

Amare still has a chance to win a ring, which could drastically change the comparison. To this point, Ewing by a mile...

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11/26/2010  12:31 PM
Ewing had to go against guys that where huge during an era when contact was much tougher. I think Ewing was often underappreciated, but now people realize how good he was.
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11/26/2010  12:46 PM
Ewing was a better defender.
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11/26/2010  2:02 PM
Papabear Says

Ewing was a better all around player but I believe that Amear is a better leader and will make players around him better. Still Ewing is a better player and not by much.

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11/26/2010  2:19 PM
16 games as a knick and we are already doing it.

Ewing was great, Amare being older and wanted to come here (trust me, Ewing stayed for the money also!) so he embrace's the challange but Ewing had his own agenda on and off the court.

Amare is more likable and power forward. Ewing was a center.

Ewing was a better all around player in his prime.
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11/26/2010  2:56 PM
Ewing will be a better knick. I don't think Amar'e will have Ewing's longevity but they will have very similar careers. Ewing should wind up with the better career.
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11/26/2010  3:25 PM
Ira wrote:Ewing was a better defender.

by a mile
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11/26/2010  3:27 PM
not even close. Amare is a star but Ewing simply did more. His #s from age 25-35 are essentially 25ppg 11rpg 2.5blocks. He NEVER had the great 2nd player, and the Knicks advanced in the playoffs for 10 straight years with Pat and a bunch of decent role players. Who was the best 2nd and 3rd scoring options he played with? Starks? A hobbled LJ? An old Harper? Mason? Houston? By the time they finally got Houston and Spree Ewing couldnt stay healthy. If he was we could have won that Spurs series. Not saying we would have, but we could have
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11/26/2010  4:16 PM
iSergio wrote:
ItalianStallion wrote:Honestly, I don't think there's much comparison between the two. Ewing was much better. Amare is at his peak now and Ewing played well past his peak. If you look across all their stats when Ewing was also at his peak, he's clearly better on both ends of the court. (which of course is not to say that Amare isn't very good also)

And the NBA has changed so much from the 90s. Patrick Ewing could average 30 and 15 if he played in this era.

agreed!
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11/26/2010  4:49 PM
Ewing is the ONLY reason the Knicks were a legitimate basketball franchise in the 90s. Ewing's Knicks would beat Amare's Knicks by a mile and ahalf. First let Amare take this team through 5 straight playoff seasons then we can compare.
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11/26/2010  5:24 PM
jazz74 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
ItalianStallion wrote:Honestly, I don't think there's much comparison between the two. Ewing was much better. Amare is at his peak now and Ewing played well past his peak. If you look across all their stats when Ewing was also at his peak, he's clearly better on both ends of the court. (which of course is not to say that Amare isn't very good also)

And the NBA has changed so much from the 90s. Patrick Ewing could average 30 and 15 if he played in this era.

agreed!

Yup.

Today's rules protecting offensive players give almost everyone the kind of protection that was once reserved for players like Jordan.

I don't see any comparison between Ewing and Amare at this point- different eras, different positions, and different levels of talent.

Excitement over reaching a .500 record should not make us forget what Ewing was able to accomplish while he was a Knick.

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11/26/2010  5:39 PM
Need a poll on this thread so i can vote for Ewing.
Had enough Melo?
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11/26/2010  6:26 PM
I'd rather look at Amare AND Ewing, on the same team.
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