I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.

martin wrote:any link to this commercial?

fishmike wrote:its a great commercial. I never played the game, or any of those games for that matter but it looks awesome. My son loves playing with army men. War games are in most people born with testicles.

promoting violence... thats idiotic. Grand theft auto? Maybe you have an arguement there. If he was playing a harry potter game would he be promoting witchcraft? phucks sakes

people get so hung up on celebs and rappers promoting violence through entertainment, yet don't see the harm in airing a movie about vietnam. I remamber when "hamburger hill" the movie came out, afetr watching that I wanted to go joinn the service the next damn day. then i heard ICE CUBEs album "death certificate" and quickly changed my mind

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GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.

I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.

I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.

Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.

I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.

I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.

Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.

while this is true, I dont know if the league can control player commercials, no? outside of their purview.

I was under the impression that this was approved by Stern. I could be wrong.

edit: no prior approval but no condemnation which is not disapproval. He couldn't miss the commercial.

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I have no problem with him being in the commercial, I play COD. The reason some people are upset is that its a shot of Kobe trying to look cool holding an actual gun. Not really the image you would imagine the league would want to send to kids.

I would have done it differently. I would of had Kobe seeing a gun on the ground ahead of him. He runs through a barage of explosions and tracer fire and then dives over an embankment. He reaches to pick up the rifle and looks up to see at an elderly woman with an M-60 standing over him with a grin on her face. Kobe gets to be in the commercial without actually holding a gun.

I'd like to ask the upset people what they think of TV or movies in general and why they are upset. Violence is on all the time. Die Hard, any John Wayne movie, war movies, cop shows, etc.

Sure, its context. Same reason Nickolodeon shows Dora the explorer not Dora the ax murderer. Time and place. The league promotes non violent solutions to problems. They do it by coming down very hard on players who fight. Basketball promotes working together to overcome obstacles. You have one of the league's star players acting out the exact opposite in a very violent way. Its nothing to faint over, it is something that could have been easily avoided and still achieve the goals of the advertiser.

while this is true, I dont know if the league can control player commercials, no? outside of their purview.

I was under the impression that this was approved by Stern. I could be wrong.

edit: no prior approval but no condemnation which is not disapproval. He couldn't miss the commercial.

what you are asking is that the league remark on every single thing a player does outside of life within the NBA. prob not happening and a bit unrealistic, no?

"Black ops" is a crazy concept: they are like ninjas for the U.S. Get in, do some dirt, leave no trace, get out. Ninjas are cool but ninjas are also assassins who kill in secret without providing fair trial to the murdered. They certainly take out their fair share of dirtbags but it makes me uneasy.

But the argument here isn't even that high-minded, it's more about just the issue with guns? Like they say, guns don't kill people, but Gilbert sure likes playing with them.

But that commercial is pretty frickin' cool. I don't play FPSers except Grand Theft Auto, that's a pretty rugged concept too. But it's got a hilarious soundtrack.