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Childs2Dudley
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11/17/2010  12:05 AM
"Should we just get the ball on offense and throw it out of bounds and just run back down the court? You can't tell guys to just stop shooting three pointers and take it to the basket. The game doesn't work that way. You've *Got* to keep shooting! That's my style."

In the post game.

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11/17/2010  12:10 AM
Hes going to lose his job soon if he doesnt adapt. We arent a good shooting team. He needs to adjust to his players. Id like to see what he has to say after 20000 angry fans start chanting for his head at home games.
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11/17/2010  12:14 AM
I was willing to give him a season but this guy has no clue, he really doesn't.
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11/17/2010  12:16 AM
At least he is dedicated to his system at all costs. Nice knowing you D'Antoni.
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jrodmc
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11/18/2010  10:03 AM
It's painful, but at this level, it's the rare coach who's going to adapt to his players. This is a relatively small, revolving community of millionaires and they are not getting paid to adapt to players. Pringles is quoted as having thought he assembled a team of ace shooters, and that isn't working out as he planned. I don't happen to like his plan, but then, nobody's paying me millions of dollars for my plan.

Don't look for him to turn into Riley or VanGundy any time soon, or for them to ever turn into MDA, either.

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11/18/2010  10:09 AM
jrodmc wrote:It's painful, but at this level, it's the rare coach who's going to adapt to his players. This is a relatively small, revolving community of millionaires and they are not getting paid to adapt to players. Pringles is quoted as having thought he assembled a team of ace shooters, and that isn't working out as he planned. I don't happen to like his plan, but then, nobody's paying me millions of dollars for my plan.

Don't look for him to turn into Riley or VanGundy any time soon, or for them to ever turn into MDA, either.

Thank you, this is what I have been saying over and over again for months.

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11/18/2010  10:10 AM
jrodmc wrote:It's painful, but at this level, it's the rare coach who's going to adapt to his players.

well I certainly hope the Knicks uncover the guy that will play to his roster's strengths and gets more out of the sum than the parts.

Look at Perry Fewell on the NY Giants... The Giants headed into the year with a major question mark at linebacker. Last year the team had caca at safety, so it overreacted and got a surplus of safeties heading into this year. So what did Fewell do? Devise a scheme where one more safety than usual gets playing time, and one less linebacker. The Giants D has been awesome at times, except when they get too aggressive.

Anyway, John Wooden wrote rather extensively about modifying coaching and the system to fit the players and figuring a way to maximize their talents. I trust Wooden's philosophy more than 's

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11/18/2010  10:12 AM
loweyecue wrote:
jrodmc wrote:It's painful, but at this level, it's the rare coach who's going to adapt to his players. This is a relatively small, revolving community of millionaires and they are not getting paid to adapt to players. Pringles is quoted as having thought he assembled a team of ace shooters, and that isn't working out as he planned. I don't happen to like his plan, but then, nobody's paying me millions of dollars for my plan.

Don't look for him to turn into Riley or VanGundy any time soon, or for them to ever turn into MDA, either.

Thank you, this is what I have been saying over and over again for months.

I'm still not sending you any royalty checks.

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11/18/2010  10:15 AM
jrodmc wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
jrodmc wrote:It's painful, but at this level, it's the rare coach who's going to adapt to his players. This is a relatively small, revolving community of millionaires and they are not getting paid to adapt to players. Pringles is quoted as having thought he assembled a team of ace shooters, and that isn't working out as he planned. I don't happen to like his plan, but then, nobody's paying me millions of dollars for my plan.

Don't look for him to turn into Riley or VanGundy any time soon, or for them to ever turn into MDA, either.

Thank you, this is what I have been saying over and over again for months.

I'm still not sending you any royalty checks.

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jrodmc
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11/18/2010  10:17 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:It's painful, but at this level, it's the rare coach who's going to adapt to his players.

well I certainly hope the Knicks uncover the guy that will play to his roster's strengths and gets more out of the sum than the parts.

Anyway, John Wooden wrote rather extensively about modifying coaching and the system to fit the players and figuring a way to maximize their talents. I trust Wooden's philosophy more than 's

These guys are in the entertainment business. They all have major egos, John Wooden (RIP) included. If a coach does constantly adapt, and then it doesn't work, we'll all be on here calling him wishy washy (at least I think that's the term Bip would use) for not staying the course, leaving the spaces open, running the floor, roster stability, blah blah blah.

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11/18/2010  10:17 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:"Should we just get the ball on offense and throw it out of bounds and just run back down the court? You can't tell guys to just stop shooting three pointers and take it to the basket. The game doesn't work that way. You've *Got* to keep shooting! That's my style."

In the post game.

LOL...how could this come as a surprise to anyone...
He's teams have been jacking up record breaking 3's for the last 7 yr's, and some of you still wonder why we take some many 3's even though when where missing them at an alarming rate.

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11/18/2010  10:36 AM
What about when JVG refuse to run despite the players (spree, allan, camby, chris childs) he had. The thug it out, half court, slow moving stlye him and riley instilled got so bad, they had to change the rules in the NBA in so many ways.

I know the saying that the coach is suppose to adapt to his players, but that usally happens when a coach inherits his core of players. Aside from chandler, MDA was here before every single player, this is walsh and MDA's roster.

Walsh knows the type of player's MDA needs to be successfull, and they work together to build that team. saying MDA should change his style becuase the players HE brought in can play his stlye, would make him look just as incompetent as IT...probably even worse, cause IT had his hands tied some what.

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11/18/2010  10:41 AM
knicks1248 wrote:What about when JVG refuse to run despite the players (spree, allan, camby, chris childs) he had. The thug it out, half court, slow moving stlye him and riley instilled got so bad, they had to change the rules in the NBA in so many ways.

I know the saying that the coach is suppose to adapt to his players, but that usally happens when a coach inherits his core of players. Aside from chandler, MDA was here before every single player, this is walsh and MDA's roster.

Walsh knows the type of player's MDA needs to be successfull, and they work together to build that team. saying MDA should change his style becuase the players HE brought in can play his stlye, would make him look just as incompetent as IT...probably even worse, cause IT had his hands tied some what.

Perhaps I just didn't understand what you just posted. This is the first year Walsh has been able to bring in players outside of draft.

What style should they be employing?

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11/18/2010  11:09 AM
No one is saying not to take threes just take good threes in the flow of the game. Not hoist them up early in the shot clock without seeing what is available. Not with a hand in the face not when you are 5 feet behind the line. Especially not when you have figured out that going to the basket is working all day and someone decides to launch a three.
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11/18/2010  11:11 AM
Arrogant and snarky is not a formula for bringing the best talents out of young players, eager for encouragement.

D'Antoni must go.

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11/18/2010  12:20 PM
misterearl wrote:Arrogant and snarky is not a formula for bringing the best talents out of young players, eager for encouragement.

D'Antoni must go.

I think you are being too hard on Mike. You will eventually see him for the coach he is when this thing gets turned around. I think he may not always react well, but then who does under such stresses? LB certainly didn't. Don't worry about his quotes, just watch how the team develops over time and judge him on that.

knicks1248
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11/18/2010  12:28 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:What about when JVG refuse to run despite the players (spree, allan, camby, chris childs) he had. The thug it out, half court, slow moving stlye him and riley instilled got so bad, they had to change the rules in the NBA in so many ways.

I know the saying that the coach is suppose to adapt to his players, but that usally happens when a coach inherits his core of players. Aside from chandler, MDA was here before every single player, this is walsh and MDA's roster.

Walsh knows the type of player's MDA needs to be successfull, and they work together to build that team. saying MDA should change his style becuase the players HE brought in can play his stlye, would make him look just as incompetent as IT...probably even worse, cause IT had his hands tied some what.

Perhaps I just didn't understand what you just posted. This is the first year Walsh has been able to bring in players outside of draft.

What style should they be employing?

If there going to play MDA style, then why would they not bring guy's who can play that way, and IMO, i think they did that, it's just not coming together as quickly as some would like. So now some are suggesting mike change his style because after 10 games, appearently, the roster will never get it.

Felton will never run the pick and roll properly, and guy's will never make perimeter shots...that sounds pretty lame

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11/18/2010  2:32 PM
misterearl wrote:Arrogant and snarky is not a formula for bringing the best talents out of young players, eager for encouragement.

D'Antoni must go.

Yes everyone knows that your average NBA player is just a fountain of humility and teachability, just trying to reach out and be loved by someone.

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11/18/2010  2:35 PM
I don't have a problem with D'Antoni's system, the problem is that we are inflexible regarding it. If the outside shot is off we should take it inside. And in general we don't exactly have a team made for his style and he should adapt. Adapting works, remember that L.A. coach who did quite well here?

It's frustrating having a coach who is inflexible.

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11/18/2010  2:56 PM
nixluva wrote:
misterearl wrote:Arrogant and snarky is not a formula for bringing the best talents out of young players, eager for encouragement.

D'Antoni must go.

I think you are being too hard on Mike. You will eventually see him for the coach he is when this thing gets turned around. I think he may not always react well, but then who does under such stresses? LB certainly didn't. Don't worry about his quotes, just watch how the team develops over time and judge him on that.

nixluva - you and The Answer Man are brothers in optimism but I feel compelled to inform you... it ain't happening.

Why not?

Here's why:

- our guys don't run any sets with consistency, there is too much chaos on offense. Roles are confused and it shows in the fourth quarter, when it matters most

- Toney Douglas was playing with a bad back? Whose idea was that?

- Gallo should be bringing the ball upcourt in a carefully designed system that takes advantage of his skill set, not just the fact he has nice form on his J

- it is not mandated that the pick and roll play must involve your point guard

- Mozgov should have been hacking and whacking Kevin Love

- after a win or loss, you shake the hands of your players. You don't turn your back on them

- being a good coach/ leader is about setting a firm emotional tone and being forceful when you need, not just throwing tantrums after inevitable mistakes. Willis Reed would stomp his foot on the court when Ray Williams bothced a pass. That was not the way to communicate. Red Holzman saw this and returned for a second tour for a reason. He had to save Willis from bursting an artery on the sidelines.

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