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spreeeewell
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1/22/2004  12:14 PM
In order for us to win against the better teams.we need to upgrade the 4 spot.dont get me wrong i love kurt's hussle,attitude and he has nice 10 foot shot.but he is too slow.and as munch as i hated the spree for van horn trade; i would rather keep van horn over thomas.we need a power forward whos athletic and throw it down, be wreckless like rasheed.but i think we need to keep van horn.he's not our 1st or even 2nd option he's our 3rd option that sounds pretty good to me.yeah he is a goooofy mother ****** and i understand that Isaih is trying to get rid of every player that scott layden has signed.and i support Isaih 100%.but our problem is the 4 and 5 spot.
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1/22/2004  12:16 PM
I've been saying that all along. He's good but he doesn't fit our team as a starting big man. We need a low post player in the starting lineup. We have plenty of jump shooters in there.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/22/2004 12:17:37]

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/22/2004 12:34:24]
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1/22/2004  12:27 PM
the knicks showed what we need last night. low post presents. we made taylor look like an allstar.
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1/22/2004  12:35 PM
No one ever argued that KT was a starter caliber PF in the NBA. He actually can be very good as a starter if he was playing next to a Center with post moves but since Centers are impossible to find KT might go. I like KT cause he has never been lazy on defense and does anything you ask him to do but sacrifices have to be made.

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1/22/2004  12:38 PM
yeah true that
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1/22/2004  12:41 PM
The package to get our low-post player is prolly KVH & KT. Come on, Isiah! Get Sheed in here!

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 01/22/2004 12:47:50]
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/22/2004  12:44 PM
this is whats killing us. I like KT but we can't get away with both he and KVH at those spots and deke at center, we need some athleticism there. KT IMO will always be a great player off the bench, we now have the talent in the backcourt but we need to upgrad the front line, period, we let maurice Taylor go off on us last night and that is unacceptable for a team wanting to be a playoff contender...
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1/22/2004  12:46 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

The package to get our low-post player is prolly KVH & KT. Come one, Isiah! Get Sheed in here!
hardcore: I know rasheed is really good and all that but seriously, 'be careful what you wish for.' You know his history man dont be upset if the trade doesn't happen. It's all for the best.
(I mean everything, not just the rasheed trade. everything that happens generally turns out to happen for the best.)
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1/22/2004  12:47 PM
Posted by tkf:

this is whats killing us. I like KT but we can't get away with both he and KVH at those spots and deke at center, we need some athleticism there. KT IMO will always be a great player off the bench, we now have the talent in the backcourt but we need to upgrad the front line, period, we let maurice Taylor go off on us last night and that is unacceptable for a team wanting to be a playoff contender...

Yes... Hell yes!! That is exactly what the problem is.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/22/2004  12:51 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

The package to get our low-post player is prolly KVH & KT. Come one, Isiah! Get Sheed in here!
hardcore: I know rasheed is really good and all that but seriously, 'be careful what you wish for.' You know his history man dont be upset if the trade doesn't happen. It's all for the best.
(I mean everything, not just the rasheed trade. everything that happens generally turns out to happen for the best.)

IMO The Sheed trade will be for the best. The very same thing you say about Sheed now, was said about Spree in '98 before we traded for him. That "chance" was worth it, and this one can be, too.

Sometimes all a player needs is a change of scenery to get their spirits up.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/22/2004  1:41 PM
i seriously dont think you guys realize the talent in rasheed wallace. He has a tremendous inside post prescense that he hasnt been using much until late this year. He has mixed his game with 3pt shooting for the past 2 seasons howeever, he once again is demanding the ball where we need it most, in the paint with his back to the basket. I wont say his defense is great however, he should average over a steal and over a block each game. I mean, if we were able to get to rasheed, what would the cost be? the worst case scenerio would be salary cap relief... and maybe by then we will lost KVH or KT and we can either complain about how we missed them like we always do or we can move on and see what we can do with that "athleticism" we are trying to obtain...
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1/22/2004  1:44 PM
Posted by tkf:

this is whats killing us. I like KT but we can't get away with both he and KVH at those spots and deke at center, we need some athleticism there. KT IMO will always be a great player off the bench, we now have the talent in the backcourt but we need to upgrad the front line, period, we let maurice Taylor go off on us last night and that is unacceptable for a team wanting to be a playoff contender...

You can't get both, we were either gonna get a superstar at pg or superstar 4. Not both.
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1/22/2004  1:48 PM
Posted by RonRon:

i seriously dont think you guys realize the talent in rasheed wallace. He has a tremendous inside post prescense that he hasnt been using much until late this year. He has mixed his game with 3pt shooting for the past 2 seasons howeever, he once again is demanding the ball where we need it most, in the paint with his back to the basket. I wont say his defense is great however, he should average over a steal and over a block each game. I mean, if we were able to get to rasheed, what would the cost be? the worst case scenerio would be salary cap relief... and maybe by then we will lost KVH or KT and we can either complain about how we missed them like we always do or we can move on and see what we can do with that "athleticism" we are trying to obtain...

RonRon, you need to copy that post in the "Portland trade" thread. It answers a question regarding Sheed that someone asked, in a nutshell.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/22/2004  3:40 PM
Rasheed is a SOLID PF. probably one of the top if not THE top PF in the East if we got him... Coupled with our Ace jumpshooter in Houston and our Excellent PG in Marbury... we would be in great shape for a nice playoff run. then.. all we would need is someone to fill the 5. I for one.. would not onject to getting Camby back for the exception... I love his high flying dunks.. granted he has been injured alot in his career.. but have any of you seen him since he left.. The man is JACKED!

PG - Marbury
SG - Houston
SF - Van Horn or Penny
PF - Rasheed
C - Camby
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If nothing else... it would be a really fun team to watch and root for.



Jermaine O'Neal will be a Knick if Thomas is still our GM when his contract expires...
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1/22/2004  3:53 PM
Yea getting Camby back would really make knick fans think about 99 run.
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1/22/2004  4:42 PM
Posted by spreeeewell:

In order for us to win against the better teams.we need to upgrade the 4 spot.dont get me wrong i love kurt's hussle,attitude and he has nice 10 foot shot.but he is too slow.and as munch as i hated the spree for van horn trade; i would rather keep van horn over thomas.we need a power forward whos athletic and throw it down, be wreckless like rasheed.but i think we need to keep van horn.he's not our 1st or even 2nd option he's our 3rd option that sounds pretty good to me.yeah he is a goooofy mother ****** and i understand that Isaih is trying to get rid of every player that scott layden has signed.and i support Isaih 100%.but our problem is the 4 and 5 spot.
i feel ya man. i think that is the exact thing that isiah is working on, like he has been saying, "we want to get more athletic and up-tempo style". he feels that the knicks have a long way to go to get to where they want to be, he's really trying to do his best in trying to make the knicks the best. i must give him credit for that.
btw, the trading deadline is february 19, so any move that will happen will be in that period. hopefully isiah pulls of something that will make the knicks an even better team.
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1/22/2004  7:08 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

The package to get our low-post player is prolly KVH & KT. Come on, Isiah! Get Sheed in here!

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 01/22/2004 12:47:50]

And then you woke up from bed...
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1/22/2004  7:13 PM
...and saw both Starbury and Sheed on the Knicks. That would be a dream come true. We're half way there already! LOL
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/22/2004  9:04 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

...and saw both Starbury and Sheed on the Knicks. That would be a dream come true. We're half way there already! LOL
Bro If Knicks get Rasheed, I'll treat you to lunch for an encore giving Isiah props...
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1/23/2004  6:51 AM
Now that's really showing us who's head is in the clouds. lol

Sheed isn't coming here the "MESSIAH" picked up Bruno sundov
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