i'm not sure if i consider amar'e a great passer though.

i think the play where ray hands it off to amar'e at the top of the circle to let amar'e try to create off the dribble is one of our worst plays though. it seems to mostly lead to a turnover or a contested shot for amar'e.

i think amar'e needs to setup lower in the paint, maybe just inside the foul line. ray needs to get more penetration before making the pass on the PnR. watching Nash run this play with warrick, nash is often in the paint when he makes the pass. nash has an uncanny ability to slow down in traffic and make the perfect pass at the perfect time. i'm not sure it's something we can ask ray to learn. i don't think ray has the confidence in his handle to slow down in traffic to make the play. rondo and nash are masters at this.

remember, it took Duhon until the end of November/early December to get his timing down with DLee. and that was when defenses weren't hedging towards DLee and packing the paint. it might take longer as Ray and Amar'e have to learn to deal with a packed paint area.

i think one solution is having Gallinari or Fields run some disguised pick and rolls with Amar'e on the baseline. leave Ray at the top of the key as a shooter. not all the time, but sometimes. make it harder to predict our every move on offense.

i think no matter what we mostly agree that the pick needs to happen closer to the basket and we need some variation in it.

NYKBocker wrote:If you look at how Felton runs the Pnr, it really is pretty bad. He needs to be as close to Amare and almost touch shoulders when using the pick. This will force the big guarding to commit one way or the other. Either he tries to stop Felton or he stays back on Amare. Right now with a loose way of running it, the big is just playing an amoeba type defense where he just kinda guards both players. Also, the closer Felton is to Amare the easier it is to deliver the bounce pass. Just my 2 cents.

knicks1248 wrote:He throws the ball up instaed of a bounce pass, it's just awful...but the offense is the least of our concerns, we can't defend consistantly, individually, or as a team.

If felton played for the jazz, he would know how to run a PnR

Felton is already supposed to know how to run the PnR regardless of who he plays for. He is a starting point guard in the NBA.

How to save our PnR

umynot wrote:You really want to fix the P&R with the team we have now?

I say its a pretty easy fix mind you.....

Let Gallo run it.....

Then we get to see Gallo's true potential and fix our biggest weakness.

Gallo and Lee ran the P&R very well in limited opportunities' last year

I believe if we our running full sprint Felton is great as is TD but if we set
in the Half Court and start at 3 point line with the pick and roll we might as well
use our best 3 point shooter to do it with...

I think that if told Gallo to run the P&R and look to pass first that it will
improve both our problems of late which is teams jamming paint on Amare and us missing 3's
Gallo is tall so could deliver ball better to Amare as well cause I'm still not sold on
Felton in the half court.

Felton is still confused in this offense no matter what anyone say's and Gallo does pass
well for a big man and does not touch ball near enough to be what everyone has expected him
to be. Gallo in spurts has been with out even a touch on the ball for 10 to 15 plays in a row
and sorry Gasol touches the ball every 3rd play...... Garnett every 4 or 5th....... Wesbrook
is 2nd best player in Oklahoma and gets to touch ball every time down.

Point is Gallo can be better he came in a slasher and a passer from Europe.. Yet coach uses
him as 3 point threat......

I can see TD playing off the ball and not needing to make the right pass just catch and shoot
or drive to hole....... Felton in half court set could thrive off the ball with slashes as well.

Anyway just a rant but i think it could work!

I can dig running the PnR with other ppl , not just Amare and Felton. Gallo is definately a good passer, and he could go to the hole with it probably as well. Starting the PnR on the 3 point line might result in a wide open 3 or , if we develop some continuity, we can follow that with a PnR by the free-throw line. I think one of the problems with Felton is how he is delivering the ball on the PnR. With the PnR you want to use the bounce pass mostly , since both defenders end up very close together and you can't really thread the needle without going low with a bounce pass. Felton needs to work on his bounce passing imho.

NYKBocker wrote:Yup. I really want Gallo to run the PnR with Amare. He did a great job with DLee last year. Also, I think Felton is definately running the PnR too fast. Dude is on attack mode when running this and should be looking to setup Amare instead. I think this is the reason he runs it a little too loose.