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AnubisADL
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11/12/2010  10:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/12/2010  10:04 AM
With Landry Fields, Mike D'Antoni explained that the rookie's instinct is to be forever cutting on the offensive end. Fields is always moving.

That probably seems good. But it's not.

"He needs to cut sometimes. But he's cutting all the time. You have to understand when it is to cut and when you don't," D'Antoni said yesterday. "Because otherwise you cut right into Amar'e [Stoudemire] and you mess Amar'e up."

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Added D'Antoni, "Offensively, the biggest thing that we don't do is we don't keep our spacing and we're jamming everything up. That's why Amar'e has turnovers. That's why Raymond [Felton] can't do the pick-and-roll -- because we've got guys clogging the lane."

Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/cut_it_out_kid_7z1dvIkrfKhsNhGBPstyiP

If anything the offense is too stagnant. No one is cutting. Guys are just standing around waiting for ball. Oh and Amare is turning over the ball because he THINKS he has handle and he DOESNT.

How about you have more movement in your offense D'Antoni. How about you improve those defensive rotation D'Antoni.

D'Antoni wants to run the Isiah Thomas offense. Throw the ball to Amare and get out of the way.

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11/12/2010  10:12 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
With Landry Fields, Mike D'Antoni explained that the rookie's instinct is to be forever cutting on the offensive end. Fields is always moving.

That probably seems good. But it's not.

"He needs to cut sometimes. But he's cutting all the time. You have to understand when it is to cut and when you don't," D'Antoni said yesterday. "Because otherwise you cut right into Amar'e [Stoudemire] and you mess Amar'e up."

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Added D'Antoni, "Offensively, the biggest thing that we don't do is we don't keep our spacing and we're jamming everything up. That's why Amar'e has turnovers. That's why Raymond [Felton] can't do the pick-and-roll -- because we've got guys clogging the lane."

Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/cut_it_out_kid_7z1dvIkrfKhsNhGBPstyiP

If anything the offense is too stagnant. No one is cutting. Guys are just standing around waiting for ball. Oh and Amare is turning over the ball because he THINKS he has handle and he DOESNT.

How about you have more movement in your offense D'Antoni. How about you improve those defensive rotation D'Antoni.

D'Antoni wants to run the Isiah Thomas offense. Throw the ball to Amare and get out of the way.

Oh my God that is it--the guy wants 4 guys to stand behind the 3pt line. Landry Fields who has shown a great knack how to cut to the basket--is getting criticized for it--A randolph looks mortified and lost as does Gallo Chandler no longer passes--this team is coached so poorly get OUT!!!!

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11/12/2010  10:29 AM
Damn you Fields and your cutting. You're messing up the pick and roll. Go back and stand around like everyone else....rook.
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11/12/2010  10:41 AM
Yeah, I have no idea why he was chewing out Fields. If anything its the other 4 people on the floor that needs to get their shyt together.
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11/12/2010  10:52 AM
He's right, he basically said you have to know when to cut...i have seen fields make some nice cuts to the basket, even recieving a few nice passes from amare. but the are time he cuts to soon, and drags his man with him cloggin up the paint.

He never said he shouldn't cut, he basically said knowing when and when not cut..you guy's are way over the top on this one, he's not killing the rookie.

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11/12/2010  10:52 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/12/2010  10:53 AM
It looks like D'Antoni Era is coming to a close. I told you guys it was just a matter of time before he threw his hands up in the air and called it a Knicks career. Now it looks like he is planning his escape.
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11/12/2010  10:58 AM
knicks1248 wrote:He's right, he basically said you have to know when to cut...i have seen fields make some nice cuts to the basket, even recieving a few nice passes from amare. but the are time he cuts to soon, and drags his man with him cloggin up the paint.

He never said he shouldn't cut, he basically said knowing when and when not cut..you guy's are way over the top on this one, he's not killing the rookie.

Maybe true but he as coach should be focusing on other far more obvious needs that telling of Fields at this point. He is an offensive minded coach and his offense looks completely stagnant. A lot of it is on the players and them trying to figure it out but if he is going to call people out in media then he should start with Felton and Amare and how much they suck at running a PnR.

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11/12/2010  11:10 AM
Sometimes I wonder how much the 7SOL offense really wears out teams when you're just standing in one spot on offense. Sprinting to a spot and staying there for 15 seconds isn't all that tough for a conditioned athlete. Now if you sprint to a spot and then run a bunch of Rip Hamilton cuts... that's going to make even a pro athlete lose his lunch pretty quick.
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11/12/2010  11:40 AM
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knicks1248 wrote:He's right, he basically said you have to know when to cut...i have seen fields make some nice cuts to the basket, even recieving a few nice passes from amare. but the are time he cuts to soon, and drags his man with him cloggin up the paint.

He never said he shouldn't cut, he basically said knowing when and when not cut..you guy's are way over the top on this one, he's not killing the rookie.

Maybe true but he as coach should be focusing on other far more obvious needs that telling of Fields at this point. He is an offensive minded coach and his offense looks completely stagnant. A lot of it is on the players and them trying to figure it out but if he is going to call people out in media then he should start with Felton and Amare and how much they suck at running a PnR.

Right--Id rather say why is Anthony Randolph sitting 26 feet from the basket so much--I think the guy can post up and use his length inside or position himself closer to the basket for more offensive rebounds. Why is W Chandler not passing and shooting so many 3 balls--why is Gallo look tentative and off balance--why did we allow so many lay ups--let me go on here. Over our head--yes MDA is over his head right now.

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11/12/2010  12:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/12/2010  12:42 PM
Strange, I'd rather see MORE cutting from Gallo/Chandler, rather than chew out the only player who is cutting to the basket on our team.

But I guess that's D'Antoni for you. Everyone just get out of the way so we can run the PnR.

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11/12/2010  2:24 PM
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11/12/2010  3:07 PM
landry fields for player coach!!
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11/12/2010  3:19 PM
eViL wrote:landry fields for player coach!!

Yep, maybe MDA should ask him to explain how is he able to run the P&R better, too.

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11/12/2010  4:27 PM
You guys really think you know better than Mike how his offensive set is supposed to run? It doesn't matter if Fields was successful a few times on his cuts, it's the timing of his other forays to the basket that is in question. All Mike is saying is that the timing isn't right. If he's moving too soon, then really only Mike would know from watching film. None of you guys knows what the hell you're talking about from the perspective of the coach. This guy is the one teaching these guys to run the plays and he's pretty sure how they're supposed to work. I'm constantly amazed that so many think that this guy is lost when OTHER Coaches actually use the plays and things he's designed offensively.

All the Olympic players remarked at how great he was at coming up with plays. Just cuz we haven't seen it with these players doesn't mean that he's wrong. Perhaps the players aren't executing the plays properly. I know i've seen his offense run very well before. I think we need to give him time to get it worked out and if he fails then you can look to fire him, but after 8 games it seems too premature to be going in on him.

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11/12/2010  4:35 PM
nixluva wrote:You guys really think you know better than Mike how his offensive set is supposed to run? It doesn't matter if Fields was successful a few times on his cuts, it's the timing of his other forays to the basket that is in question. All Mike is saying is that the timing isn't right. If he's moving too soon, then really only Mike would know from watching film. None of you guys knows what the hell you're talking about from the perspective of the coach. This guy is the one teaching these guys to run the plays and he's pretty sure how they're supposed to work. I'm constantly amazed that so many think that this guy is lost when OTHER Coaches actually use the plays and things he's designed offensively.

All the Olympic players remarked at how great he was at coming up with plays. Just cuz we haven't seen it with these players doesn't mean that he's wrong. Perhaps the players aren't executing the plays properly. I know i've seen his offense run very well before. I think we need to give him time to get it worked out and if he fails then you can look to fire him, but after 8 games it seems too premature to be going in on him.

all i know is that i've been generally supportive of the guy but it's becoming painfully obvious that this team 1) lacks intensity, 2) is sloppy in its execution (especially in the 4th), 3) has terribly undisciplined shot selection. all 3 of those things fall on coach for me at this point. not saying he should get fired. just saying i'm losing patience.

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11/12/2010  4:44 PM
my faith in d'antoni is waning by the day
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11/12/2010  4:52 PM
eViL wrote:
nixluva wrote:You guys really think you know better than Mike how his offensive set is supposed to run? It doesn't matter if Fields was successful a few times on his cuts, it's the timing of his other forays to the basket that is in question. All Mike is saying is that the timing isn't right. If he's moving too soon, then really only Mike would know from watching film. None of you guys knows what the hell you're talking about from the perspective of the coach. This guy is the one teaching these guys to run the plays and he's pretty sure how they're supposed to work. I'm constantly amazed that so many think that this guy is lost when OTHER Coaches actually use the plays and things he's designed offensively.

All the Olympic players remarked at how great he was at coming up with plays. Just cuz we haven't seen it with these players doesn't mean that he's wrong. Perhaps the players aren't executing the plays properly. I know i've seen his offense run very well before. I think we need to give him time to get it worked out and if he fails then you can look to fire him, but after 8 games it seems too premature to be going in on him.

all i know is that i've been generally supportive of the guy but it's becoming painfully obvious that this team 1) lacks intensity, 2) is sloppy in its execution (especially in the 4th), 3) has terribly undisciplined shot selection. all 3 of those things fall on coach for me at this point. not saying he should get fired. just saying i'm losing patience.

after 7 games?

it's why it's so hard to rebuild in NY.

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11/12/2010  4:57 PM
martin wrote:
eViL wrote:
nixluva wrote:You guys really think you know better than Mike how his offensive set is supposed to run? It doesn't matter if Fields was successful a few times on his cuts, it's the timing of his other forays to the basket that is in question. All Mike is saying is that the timing isn't right. If he's moving too soon, then really only Mike would know from watching film. None of you guys knows what the hell you're talking about from the perspective of the coach. This guy is the one teaching these guys to run the plays and he's pretty sure how they're supposed to work. I'm constantly amazed that so many think that this guy is lost when OTHER Coaches actually use the plays and things he's designed offensively.

All the Olympic players remarked at how great he was at coming up with plays. Just cuz we haven't seen it with these players doesn't mean that he's wrong. Perhaps the players aren't executing the plays properly. I know i've seen his offense run very well before. I think we need to give him time to get it worked out and if he fails then you can look to fire him, but after 8 games it seems too premature to be going in on him.

all i know is that i've been generally supportive of the guy but it's becoming painfully obvious that this team 1) lacks intensity, 2) is sloppy in its execution (especially in the 4th), 3) has terribly undisciplined shot selection. all 3 of those things fall on coach for me at this point. not saying he should get fired. just saying i'm losing patience.

after 7 games?

it's why it's so hard to rebuild in NY.

2 years and 7 games. when you see the same things from teams he's put on the court - of nba players - regaradless of the exact makeup of the team from year to year, it seems reasonable to me that guys are losing patience with it.

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11/12/2010  4:59 PM
exactly marv, the issues are carrying over despite the huge roster turnover.
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11/12/2010  5:05 PM
you guys include Harrington and Hughes and Duhon and Jefferies as part of your eval? Those are the guys over the last 2 years who were getting heavy minutes that are not here any more.
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