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BRIGGS
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11/11/2010  3:47 PM
for Jason Thompson and Hassan Whiteside

and Randolph to Indiana for a 2011 pick lottery protected + Dahntay Jones

We can insert Thompson in as the starting 5 and put Whiteside into the D league for 5-10 games

Indiana doesnt want Jones but he would give us some added toughness and energy on that second unit we are not getting + an additional asset for a draft loaded with PG's

That would put us at

C-Thompson
F Amare
F Chandler
G Fields
G Felton
C Turriaf/mosgov/Whiteside
F Jones
G Douglas
G Walker

Down the line I look to move Turriaf and his 4+mm for next year.

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11/11/2010  3:53 PM
Yikes, BRIGGS. You're already giving up on this squad you have touted as worthy?

What gives? AR is supposed to be the second coming of _____________.

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11/11/2010  3:58 PM
Talk about panicking...Its been eight games kid. Gallo is in a slump. Hes a shooter that cant shoot. Once his shot gets back on track hell be fine, and the knicks will be fine. AR is an enigma to me. Ive read about his talent, but ive never seen it. Ive seen Gallo turn it on tho. If he gets back on track well be just fine. So lets all take a deep breath and settle down.
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11/11/2010  4:07 PM
izybx wrote:Talk about panicking...Its been eight games kid. Gallo is in a slump. Hes a shooter that cant shoot. Once his shot gets back on track hell be fine, and the knicks will be fine. AR is an enigma to me. Ive read about his talent, but ive never seen it. Ive seen Gallo turn it on tho. If he gets back on track well be just fine. So lets all take a deep breath and settle down.

I think we need a guy we can pin in and score at the 5 more--kind of like what N Orleans is doing with Ok4 an West. I think its a good deal for all clubs. I really believe the conditions for Gallo to thrive here are done. I think we have a better chance of winning with Thompson Amare than Gallo Amare. Right off the bat that cuts down the 3 point shots!

Im nervous that we can go into a 7-8 game slide right now--unforotunately we are ripe for it.

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11/11/2010  4:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
izybx wrote:Talk about panicking...Its been eight games kid. Gallo is in a slump. Hes a shooter that cant shoot. Once his shot gets back on track hell be fine, and the knicks will be fine. AR is an enigma to me. Ive read about his talent, but ive never seen it. Ive seen Gallo turn it on tho. If he gets back on track well be just fine. So lets all take a deep breath and settle down.

I think we need a guy we can pin in and score at the 5 more--kind of like what N Orleans is doing with Ok4 an West. I think its a good deal for all clubs. I really believe the conditions for Gallo to thrive here are done. I think we have a better chance of winning with Thompson Amare than Gallo Amare. Right off the bat that cuts down the 3 point shots!

Im nervous that we can go into a 7-8 game slide right now--unforotunately we are ripe for it.

Too much tinkering after just 7 games. We need to let it play out a bit, particularly if we are still planning a trade for Melo, or even a FA signing. Besides, Gallo will be an ideal compliment to Amare once his shooting touch returns. And it WILL return. Mofo lead the league in made 3s last season.

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11/11/2010  4:27 PM
lol, comical. AR and Gallo are worth more then Melo first, now they are worth Whiteside, Jones and Thompson ??
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11/11/2010  4:30 PM
Listen, the only move is for melo. Gallo, AR, Curry and a future top 5 protected pick for Melo.
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BRIGGS wrote:for Jason Thompson and Hassan Whiteside

Just out of curiosity, would you now trade Gallo and AR (and maybe Chandler) for Melo?

I know it's early, but Gallo and AR are light years behind where I thought they'd be, to the point where I'm wondering whether they're going to be anything other than good-ish and average, respectively.

I'm not sure about your trade, I'm so dispirited at the moment that I just feel any trade wouldn't help us. There aren't really any FA next year, and even if we got the Indiana pick, there's a chance they might end up with an okay record this year- I'm fed up with our highest draft picks being 8 or so. If we get rid of Gallo, there goes our chances of having a good 3pt shooter- though you look at our roster and we shouldn't really be having any trouble with 3pt shooting. Why has Mason Jr turned to absolute c**p? Just like Eddie House when he got here!

These Knicks have put me in such a foul mood this week...

Yeah, izybx, it does sound like panicing but if you look at our schedule, this is the easy part! If we go on a slide now and then hit that Decemeber/January patch (It is death! Look it up) with a poor record, then our season is over- honestly, these games we're playing now are so important and we're blowing it each game.

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11/11/2010  4:52 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:for Jason Thompson and Hassan Whiteside

Just out of curiosity, would you now trade Gallo and AR (and maybe Chandler) for Melo?

I know it's early, but Gallo and AR are light years behind where I thought they'd be, to the point where I'm wondering whether they're going to be anything other than good-ish and average, respectively.

I'm not sure about your trade, I'm so dispirited at the moment that I just feel any trade wouldn't help us. There aren't really any FA next year, and even if we got the Indiana pick, there's a chance they might end up with an okay record this year- I'm fed up with our highest draft picks being 8 or so. If we get rid of Gallo, there goes our chances of having a good 3pt shooter- though you look at our roster and we shouldn't really be having any trouble with 3pt shooting. Why has Mason Jr turned to absolute c**p? Just like Eddie House when he got here!

These Knicks have put me in such a foul mood this week...

Yeah, izybx, it does sound like panicing but if you look at our schedule, this is the easy part! If we go on a slide now and then hit that Decemeber/January patch (It is death! Look it up) with a poor record, then our season is over- honestly, these games we're playing now are so important and we're blowing it each game.

If melo wants 25mm than I wouldnt give a 2nd round pick for him. We cant have two guys take up 85% of the cap. this trad would set it up better for melo next year in fa--we have too many SF--that is what Gallo is. Were going to need to get rid of Turriafs 4+mm(i think we can do that at the deadline to Miami San Antonio etc.. whoever pays the most.

I have to accept it will take one more year of tinkering--and just be honest to myself that I over rated our team. This doesnt change Mikes ability to win with the club--so i say let him have his year. If we win 30 then he is out.

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11/11/2010  5:17 PM
Sacremento does this because?
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11/11/2010  5:21 PM
chill. this is the beginning of the season.
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11/11/2010  5:31 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
izybx wrote:Talk about panicking...Its been eight games kid. Gallo is in a slump. Hes a shooter that cant shoot. Once his shot gets back on track hell be fine, and the knicks will be fine. AR is an enigma to me. Ive read about his talent, but ive never seen it. Ive seen Gallo turn it on tho. If he gets back on track well be just fine. So lets all take a deep breath and settle down.

I think we need a guy we can pin in and score at the 5 more--kind of like what N Orleans is doing with Ok4 an West. I think its a good deal for all clubs. I really believe the conditions for Gallo to thrive here are done. I think we have a better chance of winning with Thompson Amare than Gallo Amare. Right off the bat that cuts down the 3 point shots!

Im nervous that we can go into a 7-8 game slide right now--unforotunately we are ripe for it.

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D'Antoni would have a fit if they didn't shoot the 3s.

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11/11/2010  5:49 PM
Nobody wanted to trade Gallo and AR because they;re young talent with potential. After eight games suddenly they have no talent and they have no potential. Most of us expected this team to be a second half team. Now we dropped five out of eight and its time to blow it up...TAKE A DEEP BREATH!

This is the team we thought they would be! They will win 40+ games. They will make the playoffs. You can bank on it. This teams best performances have yet to come!

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11/11/2010  6:58 PM
I would love to snag a big man from Sactown but not for Gallo. We still need his shooting ability and he will come around no question. But Thompson would be an awesome fit at center for this team, either for Chandler or Randolph.
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11/11/2010  7:02 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Sacremento does this because?

They are not playing Thompson and both he and Gallo are on rookie deals. Sacramento has a ton of bigs including Cousins so Thompson is expendable. I think if the Knicks are offered this deal they have to consider it.
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11/11/2010  7:03 PM
BRIGGS wrote:for Jason Thompson and Hassan Whiteside

and Randolph to Indiana for a 2011 pick lottery protected + Dahntay Jones

We can insert Thompson in as the starting 5 and put Whiteside into the D league for 5-10 games

Indiana doesnt want Jones but he would give us some added toughness and energy on that second unit we are not getting + an additional asset for a draft loaded with PG's

That would put us at

C-Thompson
F Amare
F Chandler
G Fields
G Felton
C Turriaf/mosgov/Whiteside
F Jones
G Douglas
G Walker

Down the line I look to move Turriaf and his 4+mm for next year.

The past few games have shown that we need shooters and you want to trade our only shooter?

Had enough Melo?
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11/11/2010  7:26 PM
TymeLessKnicks wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:for Jason Thompson and Hassan Whiteside

and Randolph to Indiana for a 2011 pick lottery protected + Dahntay Jones

We can insert Thompson in as the starting 5 and put Whiteside into the D league for 5-10 games

Indiana doesnt want Jones but he would give us some added toughness and energy on that second unit we are not getting + an additional asset for a draft loaded with PG's

That would put us at

C-Thompson
F Amare
F Chandler
G Fields
G Felton
C Turriaf/mosgov/Whiteside
F Jones
G Douglas
G Walker

Down the line I look to move Turriaf and his 4+mm for next year.

The past few games have shown that we need shooters and you want to trade our only shooter?


Yeah this is the major problem with trading Gallo. The only reason you trade Gallo is if you get a superstar in return or another shooter as part of the deal, or have a follow up deal for a shooter. Outside of Stoudemire and Felton, Gallo is the most irreplacable because of his one ability we need more than almost anything. I hate seeing people propose deals involving Gallo and then have the resulting starting lineup featuring Fields as our best shooter. It's not going to work.
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11/11/2010  7:29 PM
TymeLessKnicks wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:for Jason Thompson and Hassan Whiteside

and Randolph to Indiana for a 2011 pick lottery protected + Dahntay Jones

We can insert Thompson in as the starting 5 and put Whiteside into the D league for 5-10 games

Indiana doesnt want Jones but he would give us some added toughness and energy on that second unit we are not getting + an additional asset for a draft loaded with PG's

That would put us at

C-Thompson
F Amare
F Chandler
G Fields
G Felton
C Turriaf/mosgov/Whiteside
F Jones
G Douglas
G Walker

Down the line I look to move Turriaf and his 4+mm for next year.

The past few games have shown that we need shooters and you want to trade our only shooter?

Douglas Felton Chandler Fields Walker--how many 3's do you want? Did you happen to notice we have no post offense? We need an offensive post 5!

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11/11/2010  7:33 PM
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AnubisADL wrote:Sacremento does this because?

They are not playing Thompson and both he and Gallo are on rookie deals. Sacramento has a ton of bigs including Cousins so Thompson is expendable. I think if the Knicks are offered this deal they have to consider it.

Yeah i agree that Sac may be a reasonable trade partner. What they need is more versatility and depth on the wing. They have Cousins, Dalembert, and Whiteside at C and Landry, Thompson and many other players who can play PF. Thompson is a valuable trade chip for them because he can start at both the PF and C on many teams in the league, yet he's barely playing for a young team. I think they would jump all over Gallo, but i don't think we can trade him for a non-superstar still. I think they would be interested in Chandler as a player but his contract will raise next season. They may be interested in Randolph because of his versatility to play SF/PF and his upside on there young roster.

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11/11/2010  7:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
TymeLessKnicks wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:for Jason Thompson and Hassan Whiteside

and Randolph to Indiana for a 2011 pick lottery protected + Dahntay Jones

We can insert Thompson in as the starting 5 and put Whiteside into the D league for 5-10 games

Indiana doesnt want Jones but he would give us some added toughness and energy on that second unit we are not getting + an additional asset for a draft loaded with PG's

That would put us at

C-Thompson
F Amare
F Chandler
G Fields
G Felton
C Turriaf/mosgov/Whiteside
F Jones
G Douglas
G Walker

Down the line I look to move Turriaf and his 4+mm for next year.

The past few games have shown that we need shooters and you want to trade our only shooter?

Douglas Felton Chandler Fields Walker--how many 3's do you want? Did you happen to notice we have no post offense? We need an offensive post 5!

Every player you just mentioned is very average outside shooting with douglas and walker being slightly above average at best. We need a 3-point sniper on the team. Gallo has been struggling but he is that player. There's only about 10-15 of those types of players in the league who are high volume, high make shooter that can start in this league. Gallo is one of them. I agree Thompson would fill a lot of needs and would be a great center for us, but not at the expense of our only real good shooter.

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