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Just wandering, does anyone think Riley is happy with Bosh?
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grillco
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11/9/2010  9:37 AM
It seems to me that Bosh is the odd man out in Miami. Lee would have been a better fit in that situation (for quite a bit less money too), but I'm glad he didn't go to South Beach. Out of the big PFs that were available and signed this summer, it seems NY got the best of the bunch. I know Amare's stats aren't amazingly gaudy and the turnovers...turnovers, turnovers, Pepperidge Farm doesn't make this many turnovers...aren't helping, but the team is fighting and winning and the double teaming of Amare is opening things up for the rest of the team.

It seems clear to me though that the team still needs another big player (production wise, not size). But barring that Philly game, things are looking pretty good.

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11/9/2010  9:45 AM
I do, just for the simple fact Riley got a package deal. What's to say Wade doesn't leave for Chicago and LeBron doesn't stay or go to the Knicks if Bosh and his bestest friends didn't make some treehouse pact?
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11/9/2010  9:59 AM
Riley is satisfied because he got them as a package deal, and even though Bosh isn't as good as many think he is, he doesn't need to be in Miami. He can be a role player and they will still win most games. They probably could have got a cheaper, exceptional role player like Lee to fill that role, but they are fine with Bosh. Thank god we didn't get him however. There is no way Bosh could have the same impact and presence Amare has with the Knicks. We definitely got the best big man who was available, Bosh is so overrated it's just stupid.
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11/9/2010  10:19 AM
Knixkik wrote:Riley is satisfied because he got them as a package deal, and even though Bosh isn't as good as many think he is, he doesn't need to be in Miami. He can be a role player and they will still win most games. They probably could have got a cheaper, exceptional role player like Lee to fill that role, but they are fine with Bosh. Thank god we didn't get him however. There is no way Bosh could have the same impact and presence Amare has with the Knicks. We definitely got the best big man who was available, Bosh is so overrated it's just stupid.
yup... Look at how Lee is playing in GS. They understood the value of a big who can get 20/10 who can really pass out of the post like Lee. That team is looking VERY good right now and Lee is a big reason.
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11/9/2010  10:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/9/2010  10:27 AM
Reminds me of the hate Gasol got when he got to the Lakers. We see how that worked out.

Chris Bosh compliments those guys well. He is a skilled all around PF.

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11/9/2010  10:42 AM
I just wonder if the the heat could have used the money they paid for bosh and got 3 players. A PG, a center and another big to play off the bench.... I think that would have given that team more talent and depth.. right now, tha team is wade, lebron, a lost bosh and a bunch of undesireables.....
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11/9/2010  10:45 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Reminds me of the hate Gasol got when he got to the Lakers. We see how that worked out.

Chris Bosh compliments those guys well. He is a skilled all around PF.

Can't believe I am agreeing with you , but Bosh used to routinely destroy Lee on head to head match-ups. If Bosh is overrated, Lee is nothing short of hero-worshipped by Knick fans.

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11/9/2010  11:37 AM
I expected Bosh's scoring to go down, but I assumed that his rebounding and shot blocking would go up- how does the only legit big on the team only get 5 rebounds per game- thats beyond pathetic! I'm not a big fan of the idea of 3 superstars and a team full of scrubs- I'd rather have 2 stars and at least some pretty good players, but Miami should be fine (especially next year if the new CBA doesn't take away the MLE). In fact it's worrying that they're winning already without Bosh making any worthwhile contribution.

Riley is actually probably happy that Bosh is stinking it up because I honestly believe he has every intention of taking over the coaching of that team, like he did the last time- so any excuses to sack their coach are probably very welcome to him.

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11/9/2010  12:22 PM
loweyecue wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Reminds me of the hate Gasol got when he got to the Lakers. We see how that worked out.

Chris Bosh compliments those guys well. He is a skilled all around PF.

Can't believe I am agreeing with you , but Bosh used to routinely destroy Lee on head to head match-ups. If Bosh is overrated, Lee is nothing short of hero-worshipped by Knick fans.

They destroyed each other. It Further solidified my argument that Bosh is just as bad a defender as Lee is.

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11/9/2010  12:34 PM
Padre Riles is not happy with Bosh at some level. How can he not be? BUT...as a lot has said, this was a package deal. I think they would have been better off with Boozer.
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11/9/2010  1:01 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Chris-Bosh-may-not-fit-with-LeBron-James-Dwyane-Wade-Miami-Heat-Big-Three-Dennis-Rodman-110810

That is what this writer thinks. Need to cut back to big two. But I don't think that is what they should do. Bosh's value will come with time. He is very good player and this is a feel out process at this time.

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11/9/2010  1:06 PM
Bosh is competing with Haslem for rebounds, so it is not like back in Toronto. Remember how Lee's rebound numbers fell when we got Barron. Playing with another guy that actually rebounds will hurt your numbers somewhat. Now Bosh should be average at least 8 boards a game, so it is not all Haslem, but if you figure that he got some rebounds off his own misses and now he is shooting less, you start to see why his numbers are down across the board.
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11/9/2010  1:28 PM
Vmart wrote:http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Chris-Bosh-may-not-fit-with-LeBron-James-Dwyane-Wade-Miami-Heat-Big-Three-Dennis-Rodman-110810

That is what this writer thinks. Need to cut back to big two. But I don't think that is what they should do. Bosh's value will come with time. He is very good player and this is a feel out process at this time.

This article is very valid, except there aren't many players like Rodman and Oakley left. I can't think of anyone who they could get that fits this mold and has value similar or even close to Bosh.

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11/9/2010  1:41 PM
TheGame wrote:Bosh is competing with Haslem for rebounds, so it is not like back in Toronto. Remember how Lee's rebound numbers fell when we got Barron. Playing with another guy that actually rebounds will hurt your numbers somewhat. Now Bosh should be average at least 8 boards a game, so it is not all Haslem, but if you figure that he got some rebounds off his own misses and now he is shooting less, you start to see why his numbers are down across the board.

Haslem comes off the bench and plays the PF position, same as Bosh, so I am not sure how much they are actually competing for rebounds.

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11/9/2010  1:43 PM
Saw the first half of the Miami-Nets latest game and the impression I came away with is that Bosh is a ***** and any decent team with a good amount of bigs are going to destroy Miami or have an even chance to beat them in the playoffs.

Boston, Lakers, Orlando (if they figure out how to get Howard the ball), those guys will destroy Miami.

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11/9/2010  1:51 PM
martin wrote:Saw the first half of the Miami-Nets latest game and the impression I came away with is that Bosh is a ***** and any decent team with a good amount of bigs are going to destroy Miami or have an even chance to beat them in the playoffs.

Boston, Lakers, Orlando (if they figure out how to get Howard the ball), those guys will destroy Miami.

totally agree.
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11/9/2010  2:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/9/2010  2:06 PM
What kind of stats did you guys expect Bosh to put up? Lebron's stats are down too. Bosh knows he is the 3rd scoring option. We all know he can put up stats on a losing team. It is going to take a little while to get used to doing the little things at both ends of the floor.

Miami is 5-2 and they haven't been playing that great. I assume some of you would prefer Bosh cry about not getting enough touches. Sadly Miami isnt imploding anytime soon. Once the playoffs roll around having 3 guys who can consistently torch you is going to be helpful.

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11/9/2010  2:11 PM
AnubisADL wrote:What kind of stats did you guys expect Bosh to put up? Lebron's stats are down too. Bosh knows he is the 3rd scoring option. We all know he can put up stats on a losing team. It is going to take a little while to get used to doing the little things at both ends of the floor.

Miami is 5-2 and they haven't been playing that great. I assume some of you would prefer Bosh cry about not getting enough touches. Sadly Miami isnt imploding anytime soon. Once the playoffs roll around having 3 guys who can consistently torch you is going to be helpful.

Rebounds my man. anything to show that he is not a *****.

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11/9/2010  2:16 PM
Okay, I thought this was inferred, but let me be specific. Regardless of getting the "package" deal, do you think that Riley is unhappy with the MASSIVE dropoff in numbers, ALL of his numbers, by Bosh?

Yes the three guys who agreed to do this in 2006 actually kept their word and Miami was lucky enough to be the final locale, but Bosh's and James' stats are not up to snuff. Wade is proving that he is indeed the man in Miami, but his career to date had already proven that he was the best finisher of the three. Lee's numbers with two less points, but 7 more boards would be of more help to the Heat (who aren't exactly struggling) than what Bosh is doing now. That's all I was saying. We all know that the deal for all three would make any GM happy, but the player most obviously meeting his expectations is Bosh. He's the weak man.

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11/9/2010  2:33 PM
grillco wrote:Okay, I thought this was inferred, but let me be specific. Regardless of getting the "package" deal, do you think that Riley is unhappy with the MASSIVE dropoff in numbers, ALL of his numbers, by Bosh?

Yes the three guys who agreed to do this in 2006 actually kept their word and Miami was lucky enough to be the final locale, but Bosh's and James' stats are not up to snuff. Wade is proving that he is indeed the man in Miami, but his career to date had already proven that he was the best finisher of the three. Lee's numbers with two less points, but 7 more boards would be of more help to the Heat (who aren't exactly struggling) than what Bosh is doing now. That's all I was saying. We all know that the deal for all three would make any GM happy, but the player most obviously meeting his expectations is Bosh. He's the weak man.

You seriously believe David Lee would be better in Miami? Come on now man. Lebron and Wade are dominating the rock right now. Bosh is getting less touches and isnt necessarily getting the ball where he wants it either.

David Lee plays zero defense. Rebounds are great but when it's playoff time I think they rather be able to throw the ball to Bosh in the post and let him work.

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