TMS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Turiaf is fine where he is. He is more effective off the bench.

Mozgov sure as hell didn't look fine where he is last night.

i thought Turiaf showed good recognition of where to swing pass the ball to as well on several possessions... the team played much better w/him on the floor... in the long run i agree Turiaf projects as a bench player, but right now he's our best option at the C position until Mozgov gets comfortable

This is 1 game against a perimeter center. He is more capable as a post defender.

Give this guy more than one game to show something. He is still adjusting.

Give this guy 10 or so games and see how he is doing against competition. If he is getting 4+ fouls per game then a change should be made.

EwingsGlass wrote:HOLY CRAP... Mozgov got quick fouls. We all expected that. Give the kid a break. He needs to learn spacing, timing, etc... at the NBA level. Whether he takes the first five minutes of the 1st quarter or the last five minutes of the first quarter doesn't really matter. Seriously though... after one game your attacking Mozgov? Give me a break.

dude, i'm not saying he's a bust... where in the hell am i attacking Mozgov? jeezus, you really need to learn some reading comprehension... i'm saying that for now, until Mozgov gets his feet under him, that Turiaf should be starting games... this kid needs to be eased into the starting role, he didn't look ready for it last night... yes, it's a 1 game sample, but in that 1 game i saw Turiaf playing very well alongside Amare... i think until Mozgov gets more acclimated to the pace of the NBA game, that Turiaf should be the starter.

TMS wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:HOLY CRAP... Mozgov got quick fouls. We all expected that. Give the kid a break. He needs to learn spacing, timing, etc... at the NBA level. Whether he takes the first five minutes of the 1st quarter or the last five minutes of the first quarter doesn't really matter. Seriously though... after one game your attacking Mozgov? Give me a break.

dude, i'm not saying he's a bust... where in the hell am i attacking Mozgov? jeezus, you really need to learn some reading comprehension... i'm saying that for now, until Mozgov gets his feet under him, that Turiaf should be starting games... this kid needs to be eased into the starting role, he didn't look ready for it last night... yes, it's a 1 game sample, but in that 1 game i saw Turiaf playing very well alongside Amare... i think until Mozgov gets more acclimated to the pace of the NBA game, that Turiaf should be the starter.

Are you joking with me-- you claim that I need reading comprehension? Where did I imply that you called him a bust? "Where am I attacking Mozgov"-- you said he looked lost. You then said "I'll give him a pass" but in the same sentence make the determination that he should lose his starting role.

I don't buy into the "bring guys along slowly"... that worked wonderfully for Jordan Hill. Mozgov is a rookie, but he's a professional veteran.

My point is that he might as well start the game, get the confidence boost that he is the starter, and see how he does. Give him the opportunity to play the whole quarter if he can keep his fouls in check.

No need to switch things up after 1 game.

Mov fits best in that SL. He also earned his way into that spot. Suggesting otherwise after one game is silly. Also Bargs is a terrible matchup. He plays like a SF.

Gallo will be fine... at least he was defending well. To me thats the # thing. We never won games like this in recent years but this team showed it could win a grind out game. That was encouraging

I think with Mozgov you just need to patient. Part of his learning process is gonna be throwing around a lot of fouls, but overall he should be getting better and better.

VDesai wrote:I may have had too many beers but I thought Turiaf was a beast at times last night. He actually gave us a lot of what need inside in terms of rebounding/blocks/intimidation. 4 blocks? When was the last time anyone got 4 blocks on the Knicks (ok it probably wasnt that long ago- but you catch my drift).

I think with Mozgov you just need to patient. Part of his learning process is gonna be throwing around a lot of fouls, but overall he should be getting better and better.

i agree on Turiaf & am perfectly willing to be patient on Mozgov... i think he's got potential... i think getting his minutes & learning from off the bench might be a better way to develop his game... involving him more in the offense while Amare is off the floor, let Turiaf just do what he does best, which you saw him do last night.

TMS wrote:

fishmike wrote:Turiaf did start.

Mov fits best in that SL. He also earned his way into that spot. Suggesting otherwise after one game is silly. Also Bargs is a terrible matchup. He plays like a SF.

Gallo will be fine... at least he was defending well. To me thats the # thing. We never won games like this in recent years but this team showed it could win a grind out game. That was encouraging

actually Moz started the game... he collected 2 quick fouls & had to go to the bench in the 1st quarter.

I thought last night's line up was pretty good. I think Chandler is great as the primary scorer off the bench. He can play 2,3,4 and knows he's coming in looking for his offense.

VDesai wrote:I may have had too many beers but I thought Turiaf was a beast at times last night. He actually gave us a lot of what need inside in terms of rebounding/blocks/intimidation. 4 blocks? When was the last time anyone got 4 blocks on the Knicks (ok it probably wasnt that long ago- but you catch my drift).

I think with Mozgov you just need to patient. Part of his learning process is gonna be throwing around a lot of fouls, but overall he should be getting better and better.

without having been there i think it's pretty safe to assume this is a yes.