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when mda won 57 games in pheonix for 3 years what player who started
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BRIGGS
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10/7/2010  8:19 PM
was anything like R Turriaf?answer--they never did-- It was a small team that has speed skill and athletic ability that out matched teams.

C-amare 6-9
f-marion6-7
f-Q rich 6-6
G J Johson 6-8
G Steve Nash 6-3

What they were able to do was use speed athletic ability and skill to get up and down and out pace and outscore opponents. Playing a slow 2nd big--along with Gallo(who is not fleet footed) will never replicate this.

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10/7/2010  8:21 PM
i've been saying i think they should start the super frontcourt. i'd love to eventually see:

Felton
Azubuike
Gallo
AR
Amare

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10/7/2010  8:21 PM
He needs two more all stars and a hall of fame point and everything will be fine.
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10/7/2010  8:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:He needs two more all stars and a hall of fame point and everything will be fine.

Who are you talking about? They had Nash, Amare & Marion as the main studs on those teams. Right now we're trying to develop Gallo as a 2nd star and AR perhaps as a 3rd. Who were the 3 stars when he won 54, The Pacific and went to the WCF's?

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10/7/2010  8:35 PM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:He needs two more all stars and a hall of fame point and everything will be fine.

Who are you talking about? They had Nash, Amare & Marion as the main studs on those teams. Right now we're trying to develop Gallo as a 2nd star and AR perhaps as a 3rd. Who were the 3 stars when he won 54, The Pacific and went to the WCF's?

I am talking about the guys mentioned in the first post that started the topic. D'Antoni did have all of those guys together and they won 62 games in 04-05.
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10/7/2010  8:49 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:He needs two more all stars and a hall of fame point and everything will be fine.

Who are you talking about? They had Nash, Amare & Marion as the main studs on those teams. Right now we're trying to develop Gallo as a 2nd star and AR perhaps as a 3rd. Who were the 3 stars when he won 54, The Pacific and went to the WCF's?

I am talking about the guys mentioned in the first post that started the topic. D'Antoni did have all of those guys together and they won 62 games in 04-05.

OH! Well yeah that's why they won 62. That was a really good team. Joe Johnson smashin his face was part of what stopped their playoff chances. I think they really have designs on trying to create a team with many of the same facets, but more quality size. I think this team has a chance if we can improve PG and SG at some point during this era.
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10/7/2010  8:51 PM
BRIGGS wrote:was anything like R Turriaf?answer--they never did-- It was a small team that has speed skill and athletic ability that out matched teams.

C-amare 6-9
f-marion6-7
f-Q rich 6-6
G J Johson 6-8
G Steve Nash 6-3

What they were able to do was use speed athletic ability and skill to get up and down and out pace and outscore opponents. Playing a slow 2nd big--along with Gallo(who is not fleet footed) will never replicate this.

you arent having reservations on dg are you?

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10/7/2010  9:34 PM
Amare should never play center again.
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Childs2Dudley wrote:Amare should never play center again.

Why?

We need to set a strategy in motion and just roll with it. In with the young--out with the old

In Fields starting 3 out Gallo to mobile 4(hey Gallo read KD statements today when he said he doesnt go out the night before a game---live it.
In Rautins--deserves a chance with a good showing but must continue out Mason went downhill in SA and looks even worse right now Duhon from the SG.
In faster pace out clogging the offensive lane
In Amare @ C out shtty non skilled player @ 5

The watch is on Felton and Douglas---let the best man start.

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10/8/2010  12:34 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Amare should never play center again.

Why?

We need to set a strategy in motion and just roll with it. In with the young--out with the old

In Fields starting 3 out Gallo to mobile 4(hey Gallo read KD statements today when he said he doesnt go out the night before a game---live it.
In Rautins--deserves a chance with a good showing but must continue out Mason went downhill in SA and looks even worse right now Duhon from the SG.
In faster pace out clogging the offensive lane
In Amare @ C out shtty non skilled player @ 5

The watch is on Felton and Douglas---let the best man start.

If you want Amare to survive the remainder of his contract, he should never play center.

Power Forward is his position and where he is strongest at. That, in turn, helps the team.

You are too quick to make judgments. You do this all the time and flip flop on players basied on pure emotion and nothing else.

This is preseason. Guys are still getting situated with the team and getting used to their teammates. No to mention this is all going on in a foreign country. This isn't the right way to judge a team.

A lot of guys stink in preseason and then light it up during the regular season. Preseason is to work out the kinks and develop some chemistry. They're not competitive games. It's just practice between 2 teams. Players don't go 100% and coaches don't go 100%. Preseason is for fine-tuning, chemistry, regaining/establishing stamina, practicing plays and evaluating your talent/young talent. You don't go overboard for good things or bad things.

If you want to evaluate at the preseason, okay. But they still have 6 more practice games to go. Let's see if they develop some chemistry and become more cohesive in the coming games. It was reported D'Antoni chose to have 8 preseason games for this reason. This isn't NBA 2k. The team isn't going to go out there and light it up from the start. There is an adjustment process.

Starting Fields at SF with Gallinari at PF is just you not understanding that patience is virtue. How the hell is Fields going to start? What has he proven? He did a few nice things against the Wolves garbage but that doesn't mean he is an NBA starter yet. Same for Rautins. Gallinari is not ready for PF yet and Amare is NOT an NBA center. Simply not and I don't care what record D'Antoni had in Phoenix. Amare is best suied at PF for his own benefit and the franchises' benefit. And because Roger Mason can't hit the side of a barn with his shot right now does not mean he wont start hitting treys when the season starts. I believe he will pick it up.

These players should be given a chance to start the season and show what they can do. 10-15 games I say. If those guys are still playing bad then your criticism is valid. Right now it is not.

It is WAY too early to be hitting the panic button.

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10/8/2010  12:39 AM
Briggs- I got an answer for you- we ain't winning 57 games with this group.

Best move is to go with the guys that have promise and try to build a winning group.

Some may not like to hear this- but to some degree, this is a throw away year, but unlike last year when we had guys we didn't want back, we have guys we want here long term.

I say start Moz, and crap, maybe AZ at the 3 and Gallo at the 2. And see if that group can move the ball, defend and rebound.

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10/8/2010  4:22 AM
doesn't matter who starts, Turiaf is not going to see 30+ mpg in this system regardless... if MDA starts giving him Fishlips minutes, THEN you will have a reason to start worrying.
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10/8/2010  9:04 AM
franco12 wrote:Briggs- I got an answer for you- we ain't winning 57 games with this group.

Best move is to go with the guys that have promise and try to build a winning group.

Some may not like to hear this- but to some degree, this is a throw away year, but unlike last year when we had guys we didn't want back, we have guys we want here long term.

I say start Moz, and crap, maybe AZ at the 3 and Gallo at the 2. And see if that group can move the ball, defend and rebound.

BRIGGS thinks we're winning 53 and Amar'e Stoudemire, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Anthony Randolph are all going to average 20 ppg. Oh and Raymond Felton is going to average 18 and 10. We're a good team and don't need any changes. We're Marc Gasol away from beating Miami.

LOL

I'd be SHOCKED if we won over 40. I'm predicting 37 and that's me being hopeful that some unrealistic things are going to work out.

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10/8/2010  9:55 AM
4 of those starters can shoot 3's consistantly..they space the court better then any team I ever seen..

The only way...
Amare
Gallo
Chandler
AZ
Felton

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10/8/2010  10:04 AM
Steven Hunter played a bunch for them when D'Antoni was there, and Turiaf brings better shotblocking skill to the table.

Your gonna need Turiaf when the games start getting more physical.

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10/8/2010  10:16 AM
CrushAlot wrote:He needs two more all stars and a hall of fame point and everything will be fine.

You can't blame a coach for a losing season and then take credit away from that same coach when his team wins

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10/8/2010  11:05 AM
I think you can certainly get away with AR and Amare at center as long as you have Mozgov to bring in as an enforcer whenever teams think they can bully them.
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10/8/2010  11:53 AM
BRIGGS wrote:was anything like R Turriaf?answer--they never did-- It was a small team that has speed skill and athletic ability that out matched teams.

C-amare 6-9
f-marion6-7
f-Q rich 6-6
G J Johson 6-8
G Steve Nash 6-3

What they were able to do was use speed athletic ability and skill to get up and down and out pace and outscore opponents. Playing a slow 2nd big--along with Gallo(who is not fleet footed) will never replicate this.

Last year the Suns ran Robin Lopez next to Amare with great success.

They also extended the rotation to 10 guys.

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10/8/2010  12:01 PM
VDesai wrote:Steven Hunter played a bunch for them when D'Antoni was there, and Turiaf brings better shotblocking skill to the table.

Your gonna need Turiaf when the games start getting more physical.

Steve Hunter did not start--came off the bench for the Suns for 1 year for a tad more than 10 minutes off the bench> he also has a much different build than Turriaf--he is much longer and faster and more athletic. Turriaf should either be a bit part as a back up or simply not in the rotation at all. We need speed and to play smaller to make this work--we can come in with size off the bench to shake it up or until Mosgov is ready to start(which will be atleast 1 year maybe 2)

Its pretty simple to me--no panic--we simply need to play a faster brand of basketball with more skill players to make it work. If that means Amare plays 5 at times--well hes making 20mm per.If we try to play extended minuted with a traditional 5-4 with out personnel--it wont work out.

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10/8/2010  1:04 PM
Briggs for 2 years our dantoni played dlee at center. Do you think for a second that dantoni is going to be giving extended minutes to Turiaf if he is unable to keep up with the offense? Especially considering how well mozgov is playing and the ability of stoudemire and randolph in playing center. Why are you even worried about this
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