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10/5/2010  8:22 AM
Knicks Plan To Waive Curry After Deadline
Oct 05, 2010 8:07 AM EST

The Knicks are planning to waive center Eddy Curry after February's trade deadline, according to a report in The New York Post.

Curry's expiring contract will no longer be a trade chip after the deadline.

He strained his hamstring early in training camp and is expected to be out for at least four to six weeks.

Via New York Post

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Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69423/20101005/knicks_plan_to_waive_curry_after_deadline/#ixzz11UDVniaI

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10/5/2010  8:24 AM
They should wait until the deadline for post season rosters- that way, he wouldn't even likely get a contract for this year!
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10/5/2010  8:27 AM
This is coming directly from berman, you really think walsh or MDA is going to say that..
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10/5/2010  8:45 AM
and the final chapter on isiah's knicks will close w this......
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10/5/2010  9:33 AM
jimimou wrote:and the final chapter on isiah's knicks will close w this......
Wilson Chandler is the only player left fron Isiah's team. Chandler is fine. Curry has essentially been gone from this team for the past 2 years anyway.
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10/5/2010  9:38 AM
On second thought perhaps we should bring isiah in to consult. The Curry/Marbury era worked out very well and was cost effective.

I don't waive the guy I keep him banished on the off chance he gets in shape he shouldn't be able to sign with another team

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10/5/2010  9:49 AM
What a complete butcher job by RealGM.
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10/5/2010  9:52 AM
Andrew wrote:What a complete butcher job by RealGM.

yeah seriously.. the article doesn't give one quote or anything about curry being waived after the deadline, it was just pure speculation by the writer based on mozgov's play so far.

PARIS -- Mike D'Antoni officially has another man crush -- Timofey Mozgov.

The Knicks coach said yesterday he is considering a three-man starting-center platoon that includes Mozgov, the impressive 7-foot-1 Russian rookie; Ronny Turiaf; and athletic Anthony Randolph.

But the more D'Antoni talked, it's clear he eventually would like to give the job to "Mozgov on the Hudson."

D'Antoni has tried to stop himself from gushing over Mozgov like he used to gush over Danilo Gallinari and David Lee. But D'Antoni has already called Mozgov training camp's brightest light. In the preseason opener, the sturdy center scored a smooth 10 points with five rebounds in 19 minutes.

But D'Antoni is still leery of giving him the starting job at the outset, partly due to the language barrier that reared its ugly head in the Knicks' preseason-opening victory in Milan.

"I'm trying to hold down, curb my enthusiasm," D'Antoni said of Mozgov. "I think he can play. I don't see anything bad."

D'Antoni never mentioned Eddy Curry, expected to be waived after February's trading deadline when his expiring contract no longer is a trading pawn.

Curry strained his hamstring on the camp's second day and is out at least four to six weeks. The Knicks declined to bring him to Milan and Paris.

After Fashion Week, the Knicks' center position will be a hot topic in Paris because the Knicks face the Timberwolves and Darko Milicic, who will look for revenge after being banished from the rotation after seven games last season.

The Knicks traded Milicic at the deadline to Minnesota, where he had a strong finish and received a shocking, four-year, $16 million contract.

When asked if he was surprised Milicic had reversed his career, D'Antoni remained defiant. "Nothing's reversed yet except he signed a contract," he said. "You can bust my chops later, but not yet."

D'Antoni is making up for the Milicic disaster with his wonderful handling of Mozgov, being viewed as the Knicks' starting center of the future, if not present. They gave Mozgov a three-year, $9.7 million contract this summer, mostly to help him pay for his Russian League buyout. But he's showing also that may be his market value.

D'Antoni even marveled at Mozgov during yesterday's light practice.

"I watched him," D'Antoni said. "He can shot the ball, nice rhythm. He has a learning curve. But he's smart. He makes foul shots. His confidence is good. He's definitely not shying away, attacking the basket."

However, Mozgov, who speaks only a drop of English, experienced a series of defensive lapses but only because he misheard the defensive scheme.

"We changed up our pick-and-roll defense to a zone and over," D'Antoni said. "He only heard zone. And for four plays, I was like, 'Why are they scoring?' He just heard zone."

Meanwhile, the versatile Randolph is struggling enough with his outside shot to lessen D'Antoni's desire to ensure him a starting slot.

And though Turiaf will start again tomorrow, it's mostly because he is the fan attraction in Paris, where he went to high school. The former Golden State center, however, has shown to be an offensive liability, with two turnovers and just five points on Sunday.

"Ronny's going to be an energy guy, block shots, very good defensively," D'Antoni said. "Offensively, that will come. He was out for a while last year, so he's a little rustier than normal."

There is a thought Mozgov is better off coming off the bench for now because he is prone to foul trouble. So the starting-center competition may not have a winner.

"It might be open all year," D'Antoni said. "We could have a revolving door. I'd love to settle down on one but maybe not. But I could see it being different week to week."


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10/5/2010  11:13 AM
What I would use Ec 'contract for is to find an ending max player from a cheap team who does not intend to keep him--give them the substantial salary relief and improve the team for this year.
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10/5/2010  11:41 AM
BRIGGS wrote:What I would use Ec 'contract for is to find an ending max player from a cheap team who does not intend to keep him--give them the substantial salary relief and improve the team for this year.

That would be good except there are not too many candidates for that scenario out there.

I guess Peja or Samuel Dalembert, but I doubt either team would take Eddy for them.
Although, we have already paid half of Curry's salary so it will amount to a 3 Million dollar commitment left on his contract.

It could save the Kings or Hornets a few million bucks. I guess in this economy anything is possible.

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10/5/2010  12:41 PM
Curry could mean huge savings for some team.......

Half his salary is paid plus in any deal we could send up to 3 million so taking
Curry for equal salary contracts can save a team multi millions...

A team like Utah who is over cap can save up to 18 million by trading for curry.
Teams over cap have to pay tax of equal amount dollar for dollar for being over cap.
Denver too.

If say we trade Curry for Melo..... Curry makes 12 million Melo 17
We would need to add another 3 million contract to make work ( we are under cap)
But that would save Denver up to 20 million this year......

Depending how much they already paid Melo.....
But lets say a million

That leaves 16 million of Anthonys contract plus dollar for dollar in tax
So If you trade melo for Curry who is now only owed 5 million before tax
Denver saves 11 million there alone ...... Knicks add 3 million dollars
cash thats 14 million..... And since Denver took back 3 million less in salary
cause we were under cap the save 3 million in cap and 3 million in tax..

Thats a savings of 20 million....... Yet you want us to give Gallo and AR too?
Come on!!

But point is Curry and his fat ass contract is like a lottery ticket this year.
Paying him 7 million already yet his cap hold is still 12 million is a genius move
by The Don...... He ain't getting cut by us thats for sure!!

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10/5/2010  12:46 PM
umynot wrote:Curry could mean huge savings for some team.......

Half his salary is paid plus in any deal we could send up to 3 million so taking
Curry for equal salary contracts can save a team multi millions...

I'm doubting that the pre paid salary would get passed onto the team that traded for Curry. This seems like a clear method that could be used to circumvent the trade restrictions that are in place.

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10/5/2010  1:22 PM
Andrew wrote:
umynot wrote:Curry could mean huge savings for some team.......

Half his salary is paid plus in any deal we could send up to 3 million so taking
Curry for equal salary contracts can save a team multi millions...

I'm doubting that the pre paid salary would get passed onto the team that traded for Curry. This seems like a clear method that could be used to circumvent the trade restrictions that are in place.

He aint getting paid twice. So the other team is only on the hook for the remaining payments.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/5/2010  1:33 PM
kam77 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
umynot wrote:Curry could mean huge savings for some team.......

Half his salary is paid plus in any deal we could send up to 3 million so taking
Curry for equal salary contracts can save a team multi millions...

I'm doubting that the pre paid salary would get passed onto the team that traded for Curry. This seems like a clear method that could be used to circumvent the trade restrictions that are in place.

He aint getting paid twice. So the other team is only on the hook for the remaining payments.

I know he will not be paid twice, but who is to say that Curry will not have to repay the money to the Knicks? In essence the Knicks loaned him some money. Can you not see that the league would probably step in and prevent this from happening because teams could now include a bunch of money (circumventing the 3M max rule)in a trade to another by prepaying a players contract?

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10/5/2010  1:44 PM
Andrew wrote:
kam77 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
umynot wrote:Curry could mean huge savings for some team.......

Half his salary is paid plus in any deal we could send up to 3 million so taking
Curry for equal salary contracts can save a team multi millions...

I'm doubting that the pre paid salary would get passed onto the team that traded for Curry. This seems like a clear method that could be used to circumvent the trade restrictions that are in place.

He aint getting paid twice. So the other team is only on the hook for the remaining payments.

I know he will not be paid twice, but who is to say that Curry will not have to repay the money to the Knicks? In essence the Knicks loaned him some money. Can you not see that the league would probably step in and prevent this from happening because teams could now include a bunch of money (circumventing the 3M max rule)in a trade to another by prepaying a players contract?

I think this might be a reasonable conclusion. It's an unfair advantage and that is what the salary cap is all about. The NBA might just say Curry is not a tradeable asset anymore.

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10/5/2010  1:47 PM
Andrew wrote:
kam77 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
umynot wrote:Curry could mean huge savings for some team.......

Half his salary is paid plus in any deal we could send up to 3 million so taking
Curry for equal salary contracts can save a team multi millions...

I'm doubting that the pre paid salary would get passed onto the team that traded for Curry. This seems like a clear method that could be used to circumvent the trade restrictions that are in place.

He aint getting paid twice. So the other team is only on the hook for the remaining payments.

I know he will not be paid twice, but who is to say that Curry will not have to repay the money to the Knicks? In essence the Knicks loaned him some money. Can you not see that the league would probably step in and prevent this from happening because teams could now include a bunch of money (circumventing the 3M max rule)in a trade to another by prepaying a players contract?


what will happen is the NBA will force the other team to pay the Knicks for Curry's salary. There is no way they let that happen. Its a direct attempt to bypass cap rules. There is a reason $3mm is the most money you can include in a trade. Eddy's current paychecks will have ZERO bearing on his value in the trade market. Only a team looking to dump salary in 2011-12 would trade for Curry.
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10/5/2010  2:20 PM
Im pretty sure you guys are wrong and hope some with who knows league rules can clarify rules for me...

I'm pretty sure that it doesnt matter how a player gets paid... I know for a fact we can by Eddy out.
I also know we can pay him as we choose.... Its not a game to game paycheck type of thing..... Even if we
payed him all 12 million his cap hit never changes..... If trade he gets a trade kicker but even that doesnt
change if he is already paid.....

Trade exceptions are everywhere ...... Cleveland has 17 mil trade exception and Lebron out right signed elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure what we have done is purely in the rules..... And makes Eddy a valuable asset

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10/5/2010  2:33 PM
umynot wrote:Im pretty sure you guys are wrong and hope some with who knows league rules can clarify rules for me...

I'm pretty sure that it doesnt matter how a player gets paid... I know for a fact we can by Eddy out.
I also know we can pay him as we choose.... Its not a game to game paycheck type of thing..... Even if we
payed him all 12 million his cap hit never changes..... If trade he gets a trade kicker but even that doesnt
change if he is already paid.....

Trade exceptions are everywhere ...... Cleveland has 17 mil trade exception and Lebron out right signed elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure what we have done is purely in the rules..... And makes Eddy a valuable asset

I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Especially sure on this one

Trade exceptions are everywhere ...... Cleveland has 17 mil trade exception and Lebron out right signed elsewhere.

Lebron was a sign and trade.

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10/5/2010  2:39 PM
yes true he was .... my bad

but was traded for picks and excemption

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10/5/2010  5:36 PM
LIfe as a Dump.

Imagine a world were your paid 33 million over the last 3 years of your contract and be an complete professional failure.

Imagine you made almost 100 mil over your career and your about broke.

After the money is gone what is Eddy?

Eddy is not evil, and likley never hurt anyone.

This thing is really sad. I fear depression and hypertension on this guy.

He maybe fat eddy the pathetic basketball player but he is a husband, father and someones son.

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