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tj23
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10/4/2010  9:25 AM
Until he shows something more that's all he is. He isn't a 20+ ppg player. He shoots in the low 40's in fg percentage. When defenders play tight on him,(which they did after a month or so at the start of last season)he struggles. He drives to the basket into 2 defenders and throws up a wild shot instead of kicking out to the open man. He also gets baited into bad shots off the dribble. Not to mention he's an inconsistent defender who isn't big enough to guard the 4 but not always quick enough to guard 2's and 3's. Don't get me wrong he's a nice player with room to grow but damn everyone acts like he's going to be an all star or that he already is lol. He plays absolutely nothing like Dirk so don't even bring that comparison up. What other player can you compare to? Peja in his prime maybe? Chandler averaged more ppg(yes, barely) and shot a higher fg% last year but some fans talk about him like he's a scrub.
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10/4/2010  9:56 AM
how old is he? How many NBA games has he played?
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10/4/2010  10:07 AM
A pre-injury Peja was an All-Star and the go-to shooter on a really good WCF team. If that's Gallo's floor, I can live with it.
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10/4/2010  10:08 AM
perfect, judge him based on their 1st preseason game.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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10/4/2010  10:35 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:A pre-injury Peja was an All-Star and the go-to shooter on a really good WCF team. If that's Gallo's floor, I can live with it.

Exactly, comparing him to Peja, who was a KILLER in his prime from the perimeter, is far from an insult

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10/4/2010  10:36 AM
This again? tj23 please google "Adjusted FG%" or "Effective FG%" and revise your Wilson Chandler comparison.
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10/4/2010  11:03 AM
He does have a tendency to linger around the 3-pt line which can make the offense go stagnant on his side, but let's give him some more pre-season games to show us if he's improved in that aspect.
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10/4/2010  11:08 AM
the dude is a killer shooter. I mean the post up game is great and taking advantage of size is also great but if he's hitting 40% from downtown that thats 60% from 2 point range. Seems like Gallo's JOB right now is the spread the floor and spot up.
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10/4/2010  11:08 AM
the dude is a killer shooter. I mean the post up game is great and taking advantage of size is also great but if he's hitting 40% from downtown that thats 60% from 2 point range. Seems like Gallo's JOB right now is the spread the floor and spot up.
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10/4/2010  11:08 AM
tj23 wrote:Until he shows something more that's all he is. He isn't a 20+ ppg player. He shoots in the low 40's in fg percentage. When defenders play tight on him,(which they did after a month or so at the start of last season)he struggles. He drives to the basket into 2 defenders and throws up a wild shot instead of kicking out to the open man. He also gets baited into bad shots off the dribble. Not to mention he's an inconsistent defender who isn't big enough to guard the 4 but not always quick enough to guard 2's and 3's. Don't get me wrong he's a nice player with room to grow but damn everyone acts like he's going to be an all star or that he already is lol. He plays absolutely nothing like Dirk so don't even bring that comparison up. What other player can you compare to? Peja in his prime maybe? Chandler averaged more ppg(yes, barely) and shot a higher fg% last year but some fans talk about him like he's a scrub.

Did you see the game yesterday, did you see the style of play the Armani Jean play, these guys shot three's like a shooting drill, almost everyone on the team can knock down a open 3. When your 16, 17, 18 yrs old, a lot of what you learn stays with you forever.

If he's a dead on shooter, so be it. As much as we wanted Allan Houston to be more like spree, we learn to live with him settling for jump shots (even though he shot like 90% from the charity stripe) because he had one of the sweetest strokes in the history of the game.

He as been working on his post up game, and driving a little more frequent,but if his strength is from down town, then let him master that, let him be one of the best perimeter players in the game.
You would never ask reggie miller to take it to the hole more, cause he was so deadly from outside.

Guys like, melo, kobe, spree have the abilty to play the way they do cause they been playing that way from day one. I have learned that, if you start out your career takinging it to the hole, later on you will develope a jumper (jordan, LBJ, Spree, Kobe) but if you start out being a jump shooter, then thats who you are. There will be times that they will get agressive and post up, drive, pump fake, but they will always go back to what they are most successful at.

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10/4/2010  11:41 AM
I don't think we even came close to seeing the real finished offense.

Gonna take some time.

And Pain.

Yesterday was all about Gallo and putting on a "Show".

In MDA's offense you got guys camped out in the corners. Last years top 3 pt shooter was Gallo.

It was the Show man..........

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10/4/2010  11:49 AM
This guy has unbelievable range and there's no way he's not going to take a wide open 3. He's comfortable like a normal player would be much closer to the basket. In this offense he's going to see open shots like that, cuz we have Amar'e. So to me it's a non issue. He's gonna have plenty of time to take guys inside as we saw him do late last year. This is the bread and butter of his game right now. Let's remember that he's 22!!! He's got so much time to add to his game and become more well rounded. Sometimes we lose perspective when it's our own player. We have to remember that he's still new to all of this and only played one full NBA season. At least we know he has the ability to do other things and the will to work on developing more aspects of his game.

Just don't expect he'll change from being a premiere long range shooter, cuz that's his game, much like Reggie Miller or Rashard Lewis or Peja. The kid also had 1 blk, 3 stls, & 7 rebs. I like what he did overall. Being our 2nd leading scorer isn't a small thing no matter how he got his points. I'll take that stat line for a season.

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10/4/2010  11:51 AM
OjilEye wrote:He does have a tendency to linger around the 3-pt line which can make the offense go stagnant on his side, but let's give him some more pre-season games to show us if he's improved in that aspect.

1st preseason game. You have to have multiple games, develop an average before you can say "he has a tendency" to do ANYTHING.

funny as hell reading various analysis after 1game.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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10/4/2010  2:19 PM
fishmike wrote:how old is he? How many NBA games has he played?

How is that relevant? Yes, like I said he can improve. What's your point?
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10/4/2010  2:20 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:A pre-injury Peja was an All-Star and the go-to shooter on a really good WCF team. If that's Gallo's floor, I can live with it.

But not a carmelo type player. For example BRIGGS thinks he will be just as good if not better which is asking A LOT
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10/4/2010  2:21 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:perfect, judge him based on their 1st preseason game.

LOL how am i judging off 1 game? I'm talking about all of last season.
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10/4/2010  2:25 PM
izybx wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:A pre-injury Peja was an All-Star and the go-to shooter on a really good WCF team. If that's Gallo's floor, I can live with it.

Exactly, comparing him to Peja, who was a KILLER in his prime from the perimeter, is far from an insult


I'm not insulting Gallo, I'm just trying to keep things a bit realistic. 15 ppg is far from 28 ppg. I really like both Randolph and Gallo but combined they dont even reach Melo's totals.
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10/4/2010  2:28 PM
tj23 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:A pre-injury Peja was an All-Star and the go-to shooter on a really good WCF team. If that's Gallo's floor, I can live with it.

But not a carmelo type player. For example BRIGGS thinks he will be just as good if not better which is asking A LOT

Its not a contest--I would not trade Gallo for Melo. I dont care if Gallo is 20% better or 20% worse--he has the ability to score 22-24 points EVERY single night grab 5 rebounds and 3-4 assits. he simply does--he did it in the last 25 games last year--hes going to do it again consistently--yes he needs to diversify away from the 3 pt stripe but he knows this and he will.

I challenge anyone here to tell me Melo is better than Gallo Cahndler picks and cap space--I want to hear the stupid argument becasue thats what it is.

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10/4/2010  2:33 PM
Andrew wrote:This again? tj23 please google "Adjusted FG%" or "Effective FG%" and revise your Wilson Chandler comparison.

I admit those give me a slightly different outlook. I still see good development from all the players and Will is one of those guys who seems unstoppable when he is aggressive going to the basket. It's no mystery Will had an awful year from beyond the arc last season. He was halfway decent in 08-09 but last year he was atrocious. No idea what happened but he showed a nice stroke in the preseason opener.
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10/4/2010  2:38 PM
OjilEye wrote:He does have a tendency to linger around the 3-pt line which can make the offense go stagnant on his side, but let's give him some more pre-season games to show us if he's improved in that aspect.

No doubt. I'm basing this off LAST season. I really like D'Antoni and his staff in terms of player development. I EXPECT improvement.
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