Paladin55 wrote:At the time there was also talk about his maturity, if I remember correctly- I don't think there was ever any question about his raw talent. He needs to play with a controlled fury and enthusiasm, and when (and if)he finds that elusive "comfort zone," he will be a tough player for the opposition to deal with.

I'm happy that we picked him up when we did- it was like getting a top 5 pick in the past draft, IMO, since we gave up no asset we were intending to keep to get him, Azu, and Turiaf.

He and Gallo give us some freaky length, and the fact that they can play multiple positions and have multiple skills gives us a flexibility that is very exciting to think about.

If Timofey pans out that might be 2 top 5 picks in last years draft.

crzymdups wrote:i'm thrilled to have AR. he's by far the knicks player i am most excited to watch this year.

of course, Amare and Felton will be fun, too.

and Mozgov.

nice to finally have some real talent.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:i don't get it Serge. I thought your crystal ball said that Randolph is destined to be nothing more than a role player at best and most likely a bust.

It still is. I don't take what Donnie Walsh says too seriously. He also compared Danilo Gallinari to Larry Bird last year.

Paladin55 wrote:At the time there was also talk about his maturity, if I remember correctly- I don't think there was ever any question about his raw talent. He needs to play with a controlled fury and enthusiasm, and when (and if)he finds that elusive "comfort zone," he will be a tough player for the opposition to deal with.

I'm happy that we picked him up when we did- it was like getting a top 5 pick in the past draft, IMO, since we gave up no asset we were intending to keep to get him, Azu, and Turiaf.

He and Gallo give us some freaky length, and the fact that they can play multiple positions and have multiple skills gives us a flexibility that is very exciting to think about.

I noticed that a little bit last year and when I watched the practice yesterday. If you remember Randolph from his first year--especially that last month where he averaged 16-11--he was by far the most active player n the court with the highest motor--go look at several tapes from his year 1. It looked like he slowed down some after that big summer league where he seemed to be more focused on making plays with skill than with energy. Now it will do no good to play with reckless abandon and and injure himself again. I'm sure there is caution to a degree with coming back from any injury like that as well. A goal for him is to find the fine line of playing hard and under control because that's where he will excel. His jumpshot looks good but he should never be a guy who settles for the J--it should be used as a last resort move--getting to the rim and making plays/breaking down the D either using the pass or just to finish

fishmike wrote:

iSergio wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:i don't get it Serge. I thought your crystal ball said that Randolph is destined to be nothing more than a role player at best and most likely a bust.

It still is. I don't take what Donnie Walsh says too seriously. He also compared Danilo Gallinari to Larry Bird last year.

Walsh showed Gallo videos of Larry Bird last year. Not really sure how thats the same as comparing him to, but ok

On the video, Walsh also compared fading rookie Danilo Gallinari, who had an awful road trip, to Larry Bird for the first time.

"If he would fill his total potential, as high as he can go, I'd look for him to be a Larry Bird-type player," Walsh said. "The package you have is similar to a Larry Bird. In order to be that, you really have to have it all. But I would never put that burden on him to be Larry Bird."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/item_CGeeMh25L4AtQt207pgJvM;jsessionid=0E12E14D42964FAE20BA4520AFD2DFD6#ixzz10vmRq1cb

fishmike wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i'm thrilled to have AR. he's by far the knicks player i am most excited to watch this year.

of course, Amare and Felton will be fun, too.

and Mozgov.

nice to finally have some real talent.

there are really some good fitting pieces here, which is why the sub .500 37 win total predictions crack me up. Solid PG and great defensive player there. 5x all star 2 way frontcourt player who scores at a Shaq like %. Young size and loads of elite level athleticism and a coach who has proven he can win. For once it seems like there is a hell of a lot more thats likely to go right then likely to get wrong. Best of all we arent hoping that Eddy Curry will be in shape because we need a center

The problem with getting to .500 is that you need to be able to find 15 teams that we're going to be better than.

1 - Minny
2 - NJ
3 - Golden State
4 - Toronto
5 - Indiana
6 - Detroit
7 - Clippers
8 - Chalotte?
9 - Houston?
10 - Memphis?

It gets a little tough after that.

Not for me, NJ, Phili, Tor, Cle, Det, Ind, Mil, Char, Wash, [/b]Hous[/b], Minn, NO, Port, UT, GS, LAC, Pho, Sac

18 teams I think we are better than. But not point in argueing. Proof will be in the pudding soon enough

You can't be serious.

AR is and still is a project. ONe who will get playing time. AR is over 200lbs now.

Talent wise, AR has big upside. Question is does he have more than Favors?

Donnie is saying Denver has undervalued these two and he won't deal on a discount.

Why should donnie deal his yoots for melo if he can get melo for less later? Or, His yoots gain value IF they can prove they are better than their current reputations. Players do grow and get better.

This might take more than 20 games BTW.

Amare only helps the development of yoots.

Turiaf has a cool beard.

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:

iSergio wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:i don't get it Serge. I thought your crystal ball said that Randolph is destined to be nothing more than a role player at best and most likely a bust.

It still is. I don't take what Donnie Walsh says too seriously. He also compared Danilo Gallinari to Larry Bird last year.

Walsh showed Gallo videos of Larry Bird last year. Not really sure how thats the same as comparing him to, but ok

On the video, Walsh also compared fading rookie Danilo Gallinari, who had an awful road trip, to Larry Bird for the first time.

"If he would fill his total potential, as high as he can go, I'd look for him to be a Larry Bird-type player," Walsh said. "The package you have is similar to a Larry Bird. In order to be that, you really have to have it all. But I would never put that burden on him to be Larry Bird."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/item_CGeeMh25L4AtQt207pgJvM;jsessionid=0E12E14D42964FAE20BA4520AFD2DFD6#ixzz10vmRq1cb

did he call him larry bird or did he call him a larry bird-type player? theres a huge difference.