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BRIGGS
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9/23/2010  10:58 AM
Forget about trying to get another first round pick for Carmelo Anthony or the pressure from Dolan or Isiah Thomas. You've put together a very fine team that needs time to gel--its a diverse interesting team that should be very very good IF it stays together and we can see what enhancements--if any we need next year in FA--I implore you and Knicks management to sit tight now---don't let this sit on the players heads--lets concentrate on basketball. The darn thing could backfire anyway--no guarantees in life and with our luck we could move a team with real potential to one day win it all for a mid playoff team that we will slog along in 4 years.
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9/23/2010  11:03 AM
i AGREE..... we have a good looking team so far. Time to build a winner the right way...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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9/23/2010  11:08 AM
I dont think you guys have much to worry about.

You look at DW's history and the kind of guy he is and I think your OK. DW is the anti-knee jerk. He is slow and methodical and all about opportunity. If it was Isiah he would have already packaged AR/Gallo/Chandler/Douglas and Turiaf + every pick the league will let us trade for Carmello.

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9/23/2010  11:08 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2010  11:10 AM
Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?

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9/23/2010  11:16 AM
tkf wrote:i AGREE..... we have a good looking team so far. Time to build a winner the right way...

curious, what is the right way?

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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9/23/2010  11:16 AM
sidsanders wrote:
tkf wrote:i AGREE..... we have a good looking team so far. Time to build a winner the right way...

curious, what is the right way?

Whichever way Donnie builds it silly.

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fishmike
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9/23/2010  11:18 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?

again... what was option B with those last 2 years? Build around Zach and Marbury and Crawford? Is that what Walsh was brought here for? You can hire a GM and say go get Lebron. His job was to clean out this mess and build a team on the fly. He targeted the 2010 FA class because veteran FAs like Felton and Amare mean you dont have to the additional 2-3 years after getting guys for them to grow.

Its pretty simple:
years 1-2 clean out mess
year 3 compete + make playoffs
year 4 use max cap space and flexibility to improve to upper echelon team
year 5 compete for a title

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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9/23/2010  11:19 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?

lol same old trash from the same old people

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fishmike
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9/23/2010  11:19 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
tkf wrote:i AGREE..... we have a good looking team so far. Time to build a winner the right way...

curious, what is the right way?

Whichever way Donnie builds it silly.

the Anubis way = Gilbert Arenas.

I'm going with the Walsh way

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9/23/2010  11:21 AM
Briggs -

Just 2 days ago you wanted Walsh to trade Chandler, Walker, 3 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick and $3M in cash for Balkman and Melo.

Today you are telling him to sit right and care for the future.

I'm confused which is it -- trade away 3 future #1s or sit tight and don't mess with the future?

I enjoy your posts - you are a true fan but at the same time I find you jump around quite a bit and are overly dramatic in your posts leaving no grey area.

Bottom line Walsh is a lawyer and a business man --- he's going to stay in the loop but I don't think he'll make a decision either way until he has to or Melo is moved elsewhere.

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9/23/2010  11:24 AM
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
tkf wrote:i AGREE..... we have a good looking team so far. Time to build a winner the right way...

curious, what is the right way?

Whichever way Donnie builds it silly.

the Anubis way = Gilbert Arenas.

I'm going with the Walsh way

Are you really going to keep harping on that. I wanted Arenas assuming we got Lebron OR Washington was willing to give us McGee and a pick. I wasnt trying to trade assets for Arenas.

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9/23/2010  11:26 AM
BRIGGS thinks we have currently have a 55 win team and is just experience away from winning it all. LMAO!
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9/23/2010  11:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2010  11:32 AM
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?


again... what was option B with those last 2 years? Build around Zach and Marbury and Crawford? Is that what Walsh was brought here for? You can hire a GM and say go get Lebron. His job was to clean out this mess and build a team on the fly. He targeted the 2010 FA class because veteran FAs like Felton and Amare mean you dont have to the additional 2-3 years after getting guys for them to grow.

Its pretty simple:
years 1-2 clean out mess
year 3 compete + make playoffs
year 4 use max cap space and flexibility to improve to upper echelon team
year 5 compete for a title

Donnie Walsh decided to make a run at Lebron and FAILED.

Donnie Walsh signed Amare to a guaranteed $100 million deal that isn't insured too. So he essentially signed a future albatross deal. He likely did this because he backed himself into a corner by trading Hill(Amare Lite ) and picks for cap space.

Walsh has **** the bed now he must lie in it.

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K22
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9/23/2010  11:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2010  11:37 AM
fishmike wrote:I dont think you guys have much to worry about.

You look at DW's history and the kind of guy he is and I think your OK. DW is the anti-knee jerk. He is slow and methodical and all about opportunity. If it was Isiah he would have already packaged AR/Gallo/Chandler/Douglas and Turiaf + every pick the league will let us trade for Carmello.

I'm a little concerned about what happens "Post-DW" though.

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9/23/2010  11:39 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?


again... what was option B with those last 2 years? Build around Zach and Marbury and Crawford? Is that what Walsh was brought here for? You can hire a GM and say go get Lebron. His job was to clean out this mess and build a team on the fly. He targeted the 2010 FA class because veteran FAs like Felton and Amare mean you dont have to the additional 2-3 years after getting guys for them to grow.

Its pretty simple:
years 1-2 clean out mess
year 3 compete + make playoffs
year 4 use max cap space and flexibility to improve to upper echelon team
year 5 compete for a title

Donnie Walsh decided to make a run at Lebron and FAILED.

Donnie Walsh signed Amare to a guaranteed $100 million deal that isn't insured too. So he essentially signed a future albatross deal. He likely did this because he backed himself into a corner by trading Hill(Amare Lite ) and picks for cap space.

Walsh has **** the bed now he must lie in it.


your just wrong. It was Lebron or bust for you. For Walsh it was a FA crop with a pool of great players.

Whats the corner he backed himself into? The one where he has a roster of guys under 25 and cap space to sign a MAX free agent next year? Is that the corner?

There isnt a bad contract on the Knicks. 5x all star froncourt players are max players. If Amare blows his knee out after 4 straight years of being one of the most durable players in the NBA thems the breaks, but at least it comes off the cap.

Here's the question Anubis loves to ignore. Why is Amare an albatross contract but YOU WHERE DYING TO TRADE FOR GILBERT ARENAS. Its HIGH-LARIOUS that

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9/23/2010  11:43 AM
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?

again... what was option B with those last 2 years? Build around Zach and Marbury and Crawford? Is that what Walsh was brought here for? You can hire a GM and say go get Lebron. His job was to clean out this mess and build a team on the fly. He targeted the 2010 FA class because veteran FAs like Felton and Amare mean you dont have to the additional 2-3 years after getting guys for them to grow.

Its pretty simple:
years 1-2 clean out mess
year 3 compete + make playoffs
year 4 use max cap space and flexibility to improve to upper echelon team
year 5 compete for a title



5 years dude..

This needs to happen next year, this should have been a 3 year process to begin with..

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9/23/2010  11:45 AM
fishmike wrote:your just wrong. It was Lebron or bust for you. For Walsh it was a FA crop with a pool of great players.

Wrong! Those people who bought season tickets assuming LeCon was coming here wouldn't have bought those tickets to watch this current team.

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9/23/2010  11:59 AM
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?


again... what was option B with those last 2 years? Build around Zach and Marbury and Crawford? Is that what Walsh was brought here for? You can hire a GM and say go get Lebron. His job was to clean out this mess and build a team on the fly. He targeted the 2010 FA class because veteran FAs like Felton and Amare mean you dont have to the additional 2-3 years after getting guys for them to grow.

Its pretty simple:
years 1-2 clean out mess
year 3 compete + make playoffs
year 4 use max cap space and flexibility to improve to upper echelon team
year 5 compete for a title

Donnie Walsh decided to make a run at Lebron and FAILED.

Donnie Walsh signed Amare to a guaranteed $100 million deal that isn't insured too. So he essentially signed a future albatross deal. He likely did this because he backed himself into a corner by trading Hill(Amare Lite ) and picks for cap space.

Walsh has **** the bed now he must lie in it.


your just wrong. It was Lebron or bust for you. For Walsh it was a FA crop with a pool of great players.

Whats the corner he backed himself into? The one where he has a roster of guys under 25 and cap space to sign a MAX free agent next year? Is that the corner?

There isnt a bad contract on the Knicks. 5x all star froncourt players are max players. If Amare blows his knee out after 4 straight years of being one of the most durable players in the NBA thems the breaks, but at least it comes off the cap.

Here's the question Anubis loves to ignore. Why is Amare an albatross contract but YOU WHERE DYING TO TRADE FOR GILBERT ARENAS. Its HIGH-LARIOUS that

there's always got to be one... I never thought I'd say this, but if someone has to fill the role, I kinda miss the blobman

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9/23/2010  11:59 AM
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:your just wrong. It was Lebron or bust for you. For Walsh it was a FA crop with a pool of great players.

Wrong! Those people who bought season tickets assuming LeCon was coming here wouldn't have bought those tickets to watch this current team.

really? And whose fault is that? When did the KNicks say by tickets because LBJ will be a Knick? I missed that advertisement.

Thats funny stuff

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fishmike
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9/23/2010  12:00 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Donnie Walsh was hired 2 years ago and this wil be his 3rd year running the team. He is going to have to start showing results eventually. Walsh knows his 2010 plan is essentially a failure because he threw away 2 years to get Amare and Anthony Randolph. If you factor in drafting Jordan Hill then you realize Walsh isnt sitting pretty right now.

If Walsh does trade Gallo and Randolph out of here what will you say then?


again... what was option B with those last 2 years? Build around Zach and Marbury and Crawford? Is that what Walsh was brought here for? You can hire a GM and say go get Lebron. His job was to clean out this mess and build a team on the fly. He targeted the 2010 FA class because veteran FAs like Felton and Amare mean you dont have to the additional 2-3 years after getting guys for them to grow.

Its pretty simple:
years 1-2 clean out mess
year 3 compete + make playoffs
year 4 use max cap space and flexibility to improve to upper echelon team
year 5 compete for a title

Donnie Walsh decided to make a run at Lebron and FAILED.

Donnie Walsh signed Amare to a guaranteed $100 million deal that isn't insured too. So he essentially signed a future albatross deal. He likely did this because he backed himself into a corner by trading Hill(Amare Lite ) and picks for cap space.

Walsh has **** the bed now he must lie in it.


your just wrong. It was Lebron or bust for you. For Walsh it was a FA crop with a pool of great players.

Whats the corner he backed himself into? The one where he has a roster of guys under 25 and cap space to sign a MAX free agent next year? Is that the corner?

There isnt a bad contract on the Knicks. 5x all star froncourt players are max players. If Amare blows his knee out after 4 straight years of being one of the most durable players in the NBA thems the breaks, but at least it comes off the cap.

Here's the question Anubis loves to ignore. Why is Amare an albatross contract but YOU WHERE DYING TO TRADE FOR GILBERT ARENAS. Its HIGH-LARIOUS that

there's always got to be one... I never thought I'd say this, but if someone has to fill the role, I kinda miss the blobman

I'm always on the lookout for someone doing military presses with his bike on the street corner
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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