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Knixkik
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9/21/2010  7:41 AM
Seems like this Melo thing will get a little too complicated. It's being said that he wants out now and apparently won't wait for the Knicks, and has interest in signing with other teams like the Nets and Rockets. We can only hope the Nets won't get him because if they put him in a lineup with Lopez, Harris, and Marrow, that isn't a championship team, but it is better than our roster. I think if we have any chance of getting him we have to act now and trade significant prospects, which is something that isn't a popular concept around here.

Enter Tony Parker, who seems very content and quiet waiting out the season then taking his chances in free agency. He is 28, a 3-time all-star, and 3-time champion. His downfall is he has been hurt, but never anything career threatening. He is in his prime and should still be able to recover and get to the all-star game a couple more times as a Knick and lead us deep into the playoffs. The key will be developing the young talents of Gallo and Randolph, but if just one of them becomes an all-star, or both, you have a lineup that consists of 3-4 all-star talents and when it clicks it should be a dangerous team that can make some serious noise. I think Parker may be available at the deadline and dealing Felton, Chandler, and one more player like Buike isnt out of the question, but obviously we would prefer to get him over the summer, probably in a sign and trade for Felton straight up, or with one extra player like Chandler. We will still need to address the SG issue, but this looks like a great team for the next 5 years if developed properly.

C Randolph
PF Stoudemire
SF Gallo
SG
PG Parker

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9/21/2010  9:09 AM
I'd like to see Felton play out the year first.. it's not clear to me that Parker is big enough of an upgrade to bother going after. Felton is a warrior and does not get injured, which is not the case with Parker either.

CP3 is another story.

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9/21/2010  9:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/21/2010  9:17 AM
Knixkik wrote:Seems like this Melo thing will get a little too complicated. It's being said that he wants out now and apparently won't wait for the Knicks, and has interest in signing with other teams like the Nets and Rockets. We can only hope the Nets won't get him because if they put him in a lineup with Lopez, Harris, and Marrow, that isn't a championship team, but it is better than our roster. I think if we have any chance of getting him we have to act now and trade significant prospects, which is something that isn't a popular concept around here.

Enter Tony Parker, who seems very content and quiet waiting out the season then taking his chances in free agency. He is 28, a 3-time all-star, and 3-time champion. His downfall is he has been hurt, but never anything career threatening. He is in his prime and should still be able to recover and get to the all-star game a couple more times as a Knick and lead us deep into the playoffs. The key will be developing the young talents of Gallo and Randolph, but if just one of them becomes an all-star, or both, you have a lineup that consists of 3-4 all-star talents and when it clicks it should be a dangerous team that can make some serious noise. I think Parker may be available at the deadline and dealing Felton, Chandler, and one more player like Buike isnt out of the question, but obviously we would prefer to get him over the summer, probably in a sign and trade for Felton straight up, or with one extra player like Chandler. We will still need to address the SG issue, but this looks like a great team for the next 5 years if developed properly.

C Randolph
PF Stoudemire
SF Gallo
SG
PG Parker

Parker will turn 29 near the end of this season (May 2011). Are the injuries a sign of aging?

It will be interesting to see how he performs this season, and whether or not the injury bug hits him again.

I would wait to see how Felton performs this year for us, and see if Parker can play a full season at optimum level before making him a target next year.

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9/21/2010  9:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/21/2010  9:26 AM
It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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9/21/2010  9:28 AM
arkrud wrote:It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.

I'm not waiting 3-4 more years. In 3-4 more years, Amar'e Stoudemire will be 33-34 years old. Some here act like there is something wrong with "starphucking". I'd take a team like Miami A BILLION times over the crap we currently have.

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9/21/2010  9:31 AM
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.

I'm not waiting 3-4 more years. In 3-4 more years, Amar'e Stoudemire will be 33-34 years old. Some here act like there is something wrong with "starphucking". I'd take a team like Miami A BILLION times over the crap we currently have.

which one of your orifices did you pull that out of?

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9/21/2010  9:39 AM
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.

I'm not waiting 3-4 more years. In 3-4 more years, Amar'e Stoudemire will be 33-34 years old. Some here act like there is something wrong with "starphucking". I'd take a team like Miami A BILLION times over the crap we currently have.

Miamy is around. Just switch the team to root for.
Free country.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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9/21/2010  9:40 AM
Marv wrote:
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.

I'm not waiting 3-4 more years. In 3-4 more years, Amar'e Stoudemire will be 33-34 years old. Some here act like there is something wrong with "starphucking". I'd take a team like Miami A BILLION times over the crap we currently have.

which one of your orifices did you pull that out of?


Duh, can't do math without my coffee. LOL But I'm still not waiting 3-4 years. When we decided to clear cap, the goal was to have the final team ready to play for real in 2010-2011. Not to wait 3-4 years hoping some young guys someday become contributors. Some forget that we were hoping and expecting LeCon and Chris Bosh and a 60 win team this year. Not a 40 win team with the hope (not even a guarantee) that we'll develope into a 60 win team in 3-4 years.

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9/21/2010  9:41 AM
arkrud wrote:
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.

I'm not waiting 3-4 more years. In 3-4 more years, Amar'e Stoudemire will be 33-34 years old. Some here act like there is something wrong with "starphucking". I'd take a team like Miami A BILLION times over the crap we currently have.

Miamy is around. Just switch the team to root for.
Free country.

I wish I could but that's not the point.

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9/21/2010  9:48 AM
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.

I'm not waiting 3-4 more years. In 3-4 more years, Amar'e Stoudemire will be 33-34 years old. Some here act like there is something wrong with "starphucking". I'd take a team like Miami A BILLION times over the crap we currently have.

Miamy is around. Just switch the team to root for.
Free country.

I wish I could but that's not the point.

So what the point? Amare is great player but players are come and go, but Team persists.
Even the greatest players can get carier ending ingury or get into some personall problems, change the priorities of their live to something else.
Sport club should not be dependent on one or 2 individuals. This is recepy for disaster.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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9/21/2010  9:59 AM
arkrud wrote:
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:
iSergio wrote:
arkrud wrote:It's time to stop looking at savors, as there are non, and start building The Team.
We have a good start and it will take another 3-4 years to get to the top if we will not start starpunching again.
Melo, Tony, CP3... Knicks fans are always ready to sell the house for one name.
Gambling is exiting but you will go broke regardless.

I'm not waiting 3-4 more years. In 3-4 more years, Amar'e Stoudemire will be 33-34 years old. Some here act like there is something wrong with "starphucking". I'd take a team like Miami A BILLION times over the crap we currently have.

Miamy is around. Just switch the team to root for.
Free country.

I wish I could but that's not the point.

So what the point? Amare is great player but players are come and go, but Team persists.
Even the greatest players can get carier ending ingury or get into some personall problems, change the priorities of their live to something else.
Sport club should not be dependent on one or 2 individuals. This is recepy for disaster.

Tell that to Chicago with Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen or Los Angeles with Shaq and Kobe or Miami with LeCon and Dwyane Wade when they are winning rings while we build a "team".

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9/21/2010  10:17 AM
The Knick fan has become so accustomed to losing that he is afraid he may take a step back. Sorry guys I too want to wait for Melo but if we have to pull the trigger on a deal for him we must do it. Like Sergio said we were suppose to be an elite team by the time 2010-2011 season started. We can't continue to be patient and wait for next year and again wait another year. In 3-4 years anything can happen Amare can be done, Gallo may not be as good as we think or same with AR. Its time to get proven being Knicks fans we have become overly patient. I like the idea of rebuilding but rebuilding passed me by in 2006. Walsh has to make Melo into reality for the Knicks there is no beating around the bush. I truely have faith in Walsh to make it happen.
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9/21/2010  10:19 AM
if there were a package that made Melo available to us, i think we'd consider it. but there isn't.

can we please stop acting like Melo is an option?

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9/21/2010  10:21 AM
crzymdups wrote:if there were a package that made Melo available to us, i think we'd consider it. but there isn't.

can we please stop acting like Melo is an option?

He is an option as long as the Knicks are on his list.

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9/21/2010  10:25 AM
Vmart wrote:The Knick fan has become so accustomed to losing that he is afraid he may take a step back. Sorry guys I too want to wait for Melo but if we have to pull the trigger on a deal for him we must do it. Like Sergio said we were suppose to be an elite team by the time 2010-2011 season started. We can't continue to be patient and wait for next year and again wait another year. In 3-4 years anything can happen Amare can be done, Gallo may not be as good as we think or same with AR. Its time to get proven being Knicks fans we have become overly patient. I like the idea of rebuilding but rebuilding passed me by in 2006. Walsh has to make Melo into reality for the Knicks there is no beating around the bush. I truely have faith in Walsh to make it happen.

huh? this year?

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9/21/2010  10:31 AM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knick fan has become so accustomed to losing that he is afraid he may take a step back. Sorry guys I too want to wait for Melo but if we have to pull the trigger on a deal for him we must do it. Like Sergio said we were suppose to be an elite team by the time 2010-2011 season started. We can't continue to be patient and wait for next year and again wait another year. In 3-4 years anything can happen Amare can be done, Gallo may not be as good as we think or same with AR. Its time to get proven being Knicks fans we have become overly patient. I like the idea of rebuilding but rebuilding passed me by in 2006. Walsh has to make Melo into reality for the Knicks there is no beating around the bush. I truely have faith in Walsh to make it happen.

huh? this year?

That is right this year. We didn't clear cap space to hang around the 7-8 seed in the playoffs. All chip were in Walsh wanted two superstars which was plan A. Then he turned to plan B try to make lemonade out of lemons.

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9/21/2010  10:35 AM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knick fan has become so accustomed to losing that he is afraid he may take a step back. Sorry guys I too want to wait for Melo but if we have to pull the trigger on a deal for him we must do it. Like Sergio said we were suppose to be an elite team by the time 2010-2011 season started. We can't continue to be patient and wait for next year and again wait another year. In 3-4 years anything can happen Amare can be done, Gallo may not be as good as we think or same with AR. Its time to get proven being Knicks fans we have become overly patient. I like the idea of rebuilding but rebuilding passed me by in 2006. Walsh has to make Melo into reality for the Knicks there is no beating around the bush. I truely have faith in Walsh to make it happen.

huh? this year?

That is right this year. We didn't clear cap space to hang around the 7-8 seed in the playoffs. All chip were in Walsh wanted two superstars which was plan A. Then he turned to plan B try to make lemonade out of lemons.

FINALLY someone else admits this!!!

People here still refuse to admit that Donnie Walsh would have signed Joe Johnson to the MAX over trading for Anthony Randolph. The goal was to get 2 Stars. That's why we cleared cap for 2 Stars. Not to acquire 20 year old prospects and hope they turn into Stars in 3-4 years - which they won't because they don't have Star talent!

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9/21/2010  10:39 AM
iSergio wrote:
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knick fan has become so accustomed to losing that he is afraid he may take a step back. Sorry guys I too want to wait for Melo but if we have to pull the trigger on a deal for him we must do it. Like Sergio said we were suppose to be an elite team by the time 2010-2011 season started. We can't continue to be patient and wait for next year and again wait another year. In 3-4 years anything can happen Amare can be done, Gallo may not be as good as we think or same with AR. Its time to get proven being Knicks fans we have become overly patient. I like the idea of rebuilding but rebuilding passed me by in 2006. Walsh has to make Melo into reality for the Knicks there is no beating around the bush. I truely have faith in Walsh to make it happen.

huh? this year?

That is right this year. We didn't clear cap space to hang around the 7-8 seed in the playoffs. All chip were in Walsh wanted two superstars which was plan A. Then he turned to plan B try to make lemonade out of lemons.

FINALLY someone else admits this!!!

People here still refuse to admit that Donnie Walsh would have signed Joe Johnson to the MAX over trading for Anthony Randolph. The goal was to get 2 Stars. That's why we cleared cap for 2 Stars. Not to acquire 20 year old prospects and hope they turn into Stars in 3-4 years - which they won't because they don't have Star talent!

How do you know that Donnie would have given Joe Johnson the max?

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9/21/2010  10:40 AM
izybx wrote:
iSergio wrote:
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knick fan has become so accustomed to losing that he is afraid he may take a step back. Sorry guys I too want to wait for Melo but if we have to pull the trigger on a deal for him we must do it. Like Sergio said we were suppose to be an elite team by the time 2010-2011 season started. We can't continue to be patient and wait for next year and again wait another year. In 3-4 years anything can happen Amare can be done, Gallo may not be as good as we think or same with AR. Its time to get proven being Knicks fans we have become overly patient. I like the idea of rebuilding but rebuilding passed me by in 2006. Walsh has to make Melo into reality for the Knicks there is no beating around the bush. I truely have faith in Walsh to make it happen.

huh? this year?

That is right this year. We didn't clear cap space to hang around the 7-8 seed in the playoffs. All chip were in Walsh wanted two superstars which was plan A. Then he turned to plan B try to make lemonade out of lemons.

FINALLY someone else admits this!!!

People here still refuse to admit that Donnie Walsh would have signed Joe Johnson to the MAX over trading for Anthony Randolph. The goal was to get 2 Stars. That's why we cleared cap for 2 Stars. Not to acquire 20 year old prospects and hope they turn into Stars in 3-4 years - which they won't because they don't have Star talent!

How do you know that Donnie would have given Joe Johnson the max?

They met with Joe Johnson July 1st and did offer the MAX. Johnson decided to take the extra money and stay in Atlanta.

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9/21/2010  10:46 AM
iSergio wrote:
izybx wrote:
iSergio wrote:
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knick fan has become so accustomed to losing that he is afraid he may take a step back. Sorry guys I too want to wait for Melo but if we have to pull the trigger on a deal for him we must do it. Like Sergio said we were suppose to be an elite team by the time 2010-2011 season started. We can't continue to be patient and wait for next year and again wait another year. In 3-4 years anything can happen Amare can be done, Gallo may not be as good as we think or same with AR. Its time to get proven being Knicks fans we have become overly patient. I like the idea of rebuilding but rebuilding passed me by in 2006. Walsh has to make Melo into reality for the Knicks there is no beating around the bush. I truely have faith in Walsh to make it happen.

huh? this year?

That is right this year. We didn't clear cap space to hang around the 7-8 seed in the playoffs. All chip were in Walsh wanted two superstars which was plan A. Then he turned to plan B try to make lemonade out of lemons.

FINALLY someone else admits this!!!

People here still refuse to admit that Donnie Walsh would have signed Joe Johnson to the MAX over trading for Anthony Randolph. The goal was to get 2 Stars. That's why we cleared cap for 2 Stars. Not to acquire 20 year old prospects and hope they turn into Stars in 3-4 years - which they won't because they don't have Star talent!

How do you know that Donnie would have given Joe Johnson the max?

They met with Joe Johnson July 1st and did offer the MAX. Johnson decided to take the extra money and stay in Atlanta.

Shouldn't we be happy Joe Johnson isn't a Knick?

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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