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misterearl
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9/20/2010  9:40 AM
"...the 2010-11 team will mark the youngest group the franchise has assembled to open a season in 30 years and fifth-youngest in franchise history. According to research compiled by the Elias Sports Bureau, you have to go back to Red Holzman's second stint as coach in the early 1980s, when the 1980-81 team, comprised of phenoms such as third-year star Michael Ray Richardson, supersophs Bill Cartwright and Sly Williams and three rookies, including Mike Woodson, averaged 24.5794 years of age."

The Bad News

- leadership, after Amer'e, is undecided
- less able to call NBA refs by their first names
- undefined roles lead to confusion
- fans are starve for a playoff team and less tolerant of rookie errors
- attractive skeezers will be lurking everywhere

The Good News

- position battles are wide open
- Better able to recover from injuries
- Stamina is a piece of cake
- fans will be more forgiving of mistakes, especially those that are due to extra effort
- attractive skeezers will be lurking everywhere

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9/20/2010  10:38 AM
Would have been nice if we put a Finley type player on the roster for leadership, but from an on-the-floor perspective he does the same thing that Wilson and Walker do.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
martin
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9/20/2010  10:53 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Would have been nice if we put a Finley type player on the roster for leadership, but from an on-the-floor perspective he does the same thing that Wilson and Walker do.

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9/20/2010  10:55 AM
The USA basketball team was made up of many young guys under 22 and a few vets. Its pretty simple--show up play hard and well.
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knicks1248
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9/20/2010  11:16 AM
Hold up....for years I have been hering knicks fans beg for the franchise to build through the draft..I never supported that tatic cause of exactly what we have experience....hardache a growing pains..Now that where young a pretty darn talanted, were question weather we need a vet in the locker...

The veteren leader that we need should be a major factor, not some wash up role player who nets no meaningful minutes and is just a locker room presence..that's not gonna fly on the court where it counts the most..we need a kg, grant hill, kidd type of role player that contributes big time....At this point we have to hope Amare is that player/person..

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martin
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9/20/2010  11:25 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Hold up....for years I have been hering knicks fans beg for the franchise to build through the draft..I never supported that tatic cause of exactly what we have experience....hardache a growing pains..Now that where young a pretty darn talanted, were question weather we need a vet in the locker...

The veteren leader that we need should be a major factor, not some wash up role player who nets no meaningful minutes and is just a locker room presence..that's not gonna fly on the court where it counts the most..we need a kg, grant hill, kidd type of role player that contributes big time....At this point we have to hope Amare is that player/person..

Amare and Felton.

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9/20/2010  11:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/20/2010  11:29 AM
These yoots are vets. They have been in the league for some years now. Chandler is going into his 4th year. Gallo going into his third. AR is also going into his third year. Mozgov is a 24 year old who played professionally abroad. Amare and Felton are going to be the leaders. I personally think Chandler should be given the "C" on his uni with Amare.
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9/20/2010  11:30 AM
At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.
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9/20/2010  11:34 AM
This is a group that can one can emerge from. Felton with his pedigree (NCAA championship and two years under Larry) should emerge as a good leaded.
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9/20/2010  11:40 AM
Vmart wrote:These yoots are vets. They have been in the league for some years now. Chandler is going into his 4th year. Gallo going into his third. AR is also going into his third year. Mozgov is a 24 year old who played professionally abroad. Amare and Felton are going to be the leaders. I personally think Chandler should be given the "C" on his uni with Amare.

only on the back of his shirt as a part of his name.

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9/20/2010  11:47 AM
Bippity10 wrote:At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.

AMEN REV. BIP! All the sleeping Donnie Jokes and this guy came up BIG when he said he would. All along he said that he had a plan A, B, C etc. and plan B was pretty darn slick. How many of us used to wonder how we'd get AR away from Nelson and Donnie got him for a guy we weren't keeping anyway. Donnie proved that patience isn't a bad thing.

This roster has something special in that not only do we have talent, but we have a tremendous amount of upside and potential on this roster. Even when you go down the bench and look at kids like Landy and Timo. Those 2 could develop into really good players for us. Right now they can help us IMO. Yup, this roster is deep and talented and YOUNG. GREAT JOB DONNIE!

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9/20/2010  11:50 AM
Bippity10 wrote:At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.

The team isnt rebuilding. You dont sign Amare to a 100 million deal if you are rebuilding when you have 2 young forwards.

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nixluva
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9/20/2010  12:00 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.

The team isnt rebuilding. You dont sign Amare to a 100 million deal if you are rebuilding when you have 2 young forwards.

Yes you do! That's called winning NOW and winning long term. It makes perfect sense. 95% of the roster is future proof, but in the meantime they have an All Star leader who can show them how to win. That's what a REAL GM does. We didn't have to have team full of kids and no vet leadership to rebuild. You can do both and should do both. Win now AND later!

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9/20/2010  12:10 PM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:These yoots are vets. They have been in the league for some years now. Chandler is going into his 4th year. Gallo going into his third. AR is also going into his third year. Mozgov is a 24 year old who played professionally abroad. Amare and Felton are going to be the leaders. I personally think Chandler should be given the "C" on his uni with Amare.

only on the back of his shirt as a part of his name.

Why? Martin, I think Chandler is very deserving of a Captains role. He has a quite demeanor similar to Eli Manning. He may not be a rah-rah guy but he has that quite coolness. Besides I think giving him the C on the chest will make him more vocal make him more confident. After all he is the second best player on the team hands down.

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9/20/2010  12:36 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.

The team isnt rebuilding. You dont sign Amare to a 100 million deal if you are rebuilding when you have 2 young forwards.

dude, you bring down the collect IQ of this site and forums by a LOT.

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9/20/2010  12:47 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.

The team isnt rebuilding. You dont sign Amare to a 100 million deal if you are rebuilding when you have 2 young forwards.

dude, you bring down the collect IQ of this site and forums by a LOT.

So paying Amare 100 million dollars on a non-insured deal is rebuilding? Knicks are in the same mode they have always been in and thay is win NOW.

I guess by your standards Chicago is rebuilding too. They are full of young talent and overpaid for Carlos Boozer.

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9/20/2010  12:55 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.

The team isnt rebuilding. You dont sign Amare to a 100 million deal if you are rebuilding when you have 2 young forwards.

dude, you bring down the collect IQ of this site and forums by a LOT.

+1

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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9/20/2010  1:20 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:At least there is no longer anyone on this site that will argue with me that the team is not rbuilding. Walsh has proven that heis a smart dude he knows eventually if you are going to win you need true leadership. Age of that leader does not matter, but you do need a leader. If amare and felton etc don't produce a couple leaders I guarantee that walsh will try to find one in the next year or so(remember he went after Kidd last year). This is a similar promise to when I told you we would get younger and that walsh understands the importance of height. Unfortunately we are rebuilding and sometimes you have to wait to acqire one or wait for one to emerge.

The team isnt rebuilding. You dont sign Amare to a 100 million deal if you are rebuilding when you have 2 young forwards.

dude, you bring down the collect IQ of this site and forums by a LOT.

+1

+2

I guess Amare can't influence these two guys in a positive way..

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9/20/2010  1:36 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:These yoots are vets. They have been in the league for some years now. Chandler is going into his 4th year. Gallo going into his third. AR is also going into his third year. Mozgov is a 24 year old who played professionally abroad. Amare and Felton are going to be the leaders. I personally think Chandler should be given the "C" on his uni with Amare.

only on the back of his shirt as a part of his name.

Why? Martin, I think Chandler is very deserving of a Captains role. He has a quite demeanor similar to Eli Manning. He may not be a rah-rah guy but he has that quite coolness. Besides I think giving him the C on the chest will make him more vocal make him more confident. After all he is the second best player on the team hands down.

is he gonna be the guy to get folks in line, keep heads in the game, etc? im not sure we really have anyone like that yet. as in the thread about who should be capn, let it go unset till we see who steps up.

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9/20/2010  1:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/20/2010  1:48 PM
I think he more less looks at the thunder as a franchise that has rebuilt its self directly thru the draft...basically getting a leader, a franchise player and a super star pg... as oppose to aquiring one through FA...he just needs a little guidence and understang folks....all and all the comments were a little elemntry
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