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9/12/2010  11:45 AM
I am excited about Stoudemire because he is the most dominant player we have had at any position since Ewing. But i have to know, who is more dominant and more dangerous of the 2? Ewing was clearly a better defender, but Stoudemire might be more dangerous on offense. Which one has more of an impact in the win column as your best player? I think it's fair to compare the 2 because we are getting Stoudemire in the mist of his prime, and he should be in his prime for the next 4 years, baring any injury. I would just like to know everyone's thoughts on the comparison of the 2 and their impact for this team in their primes.
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9/12/2010  11:51 AM
Offensively you could make the case that were close or even. I give the slight edge to Amar'e becuase of his field goal percentage.In term of rebounding or defense, it's not close. Ewing, for all his faults, could anchor a teams defense. Defense just aint Stat's thing.
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9/12/2010  12:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/12/2010  12:26 PM
There's really not much of a debate here, ewing essentially carried this franchise on his back until allan, spree and LJ emerged. Amare has been playing with some pretty good talent(including a 2x MVP) and has been hurt for long stretches. Even with his knees and wrist injury, you never associated the word injury prone when it came to ewing

The fact that this isn't even a big mans league anymore, validates any argument that Amare is not yet on ewings level.

This is amares 10th year, considering he came straight from HS, he still has a chance to become a HOF if he takes this franchise to the top. He's the face of the franchise right now, and if he stays relatively healthy (no less the 75 games per season) and keeps us as an elite team (and win a ring), then maybe you can start to compare the two.

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9/12/2010  1:19 PM
Ewing was a "give me the damn ball" type if talent. He didn't run a pick and roll offense. He put the offense on his back and got buckets against harsh nba defenses. Amar'e can score but I dunno if he's a monster like Ewing. Amar'e still has a lot of career left to play.
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9/12/2010  1:29 PM
Ewing *in his prime* was a beast.

If you could put the Patrick of his *prime* in the league today he'd easily be the best center, and probably the best bigman, in the league right now.
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9/12/2010  2:11 PM
BlueSeats wrote:Ewing *in his prime* was a beast.

If you could put the Patrick of his *prime* in the league today he'd easily be the best center, and probably the best bigman, in the league right now.

Exactly, Ewing could play finese ball or post up bang in down low ball, thats what made him so special.

With his trade mark drop step feathery jumper, and his abilty to all so play with his back to the basket, and forget about his defense (although it does help to play aside the likes of a oak tree) he was hands down, top 10 in his era.

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9/12/2010  2:17 PM
Ewing dominated on both sides of the ball... Amare's great but he's not on Ewing's level.
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9/13/2010  4:27 AM
Ewing often gets knocked when compared to some of the guys who won titles during his career, but he was working with a lot less then most great players for years and was dragging his teams with him to big wins. He's just in another class IMO. I hated how Ewing was dissed at times, but I think people appreciate him more now. There's a short list of C's who were as well rounded offensively as Ewing and still brought in on Defense. Stat is a really good player, but he's not at that level. His story isn't finished yet and maybe he can take it to another level. We'll see. Ewing was a #1 in need of a #2 and Stat is a #2 in need of a #1.
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9/13/2010  7:30 AM
Certainly, Ewing. But Amare is close enough so that if the players around him turn out to be better than the players around Ewing we can have a team as good or better than the Ewing teams.
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9/13/2010  8:23 AM
shouldn't we get to see them both in bathing suits before we vote?
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9/13/2010  8:57 AM
Ewing. Amare has to take us to the finals to be in the conversation.
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9/13/2010  9:15 AM
Marv wrote:shouldn't we get to see them both in bathing suits before we vote?

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9/13/2010  9:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/13/2010  9:50 AM
knicks1248 wrote:There's really not much of a debate here, ewing essentially carried this franchise on his back until allan, spree and LJ emerged. Amare has been playing with some pretty good talent(including a 2x MVP) and has been hurt for long stretches. Even with his knees and wrist injury, you never associated the word injury prone when it came to ewing

The fact that this isn't even a big mans league anymore, validates any argument that Amare is not yet on ewings level.

This is amares 10th year, considering he came straight from HS, he still has a chance to become a HOF if he takes this franchise to the top. He's the face of the franchise right now, and if he stays relatively healthy (no less the 75 games per season) and keeps us as an elite team (and win a ring), then maybe you can start to compare the two.

Fair or unfair, if Amare brings a ring to NY, he will go down as the better of the two. I think Patrick had a bigger effect during the game with his D and scoring.
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9/13/2010  10:01 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Fair or unfair, if Amare brings a ring to NY, he will go down as the better of the two. I think Patrick had a bigger effect during the game with his D and scoring.

That's myopic. Find me someone who thinks that Billups is better than John Stockton, or Rasheed Wallace is better than Malone or Barkley. You need stars to win in the NBA, but basketball is still a team game. This is not tennis.
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9/13/2010  10:03 AM
There's no comparison - Ewing was one of the top five players in the game for long stretches in NY and a surefire hall of famer. Amar'e is maybe top ten or twelve. Defense matters.
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9/13/2010  10:31 AM
Stoudemire has much better hands, can run the floor better... and is a more explosive athlete. He's kind of a modern day Shawn Kemp. Ewing was by far a more skilled player... longer arms, real 7' height.

I concur with the folks who say that he'd easily be the best all-around center in the game today. It's unfortunate (for Ewing) to have come up during the golden age of centers, so to speak, so his greatness is diminished - fact is, though, those other centers were better than him which speaks to their greatness! :)

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9/13/2010  11:15 AM
We comparing them already?

Differnt players in different Eras.

Ewing in his prime was amazing. His knees were a problem and he had shoulder problems which is really didn't disclose all too much. Ewing was a back to the basket beast where Amare is an athletic freak more like Hakeem, just not as good especially on the Defense.

Ewing is top 50.

I love Steve Nash but Amare also Made Nash an MVP too. Give Amare credit.

Speaking of Credit, Briggy was all over us picking Amare when we could. Amare has done a great job coming from a crazy background to be a true professional.
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9/13/2010  12:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/13/2010  12:13 PM
technomaster wrote:Stoudemire has much better hands, can run the floor better... and is a more explosive athlete. He's kind of a modern day Shawn Kemp. Ewing was by far a more skilled player... longer arms, real 7' height.

Geez, let's hope not. The last few years of Kemp's "prime" were just awful.

Ewing was a far more dominant player than Amare. I'm glad Stat's on our roster, but he ain't no Ewing.
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9/13/2010  12:47 PM
So it begins. Did we forget Amare's defense is David Lee'esque. Amare was acquired to provide a consistent scorer for us. He should be a beast in the Eastern Conference but he is no Ewing.
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9/13/2010  1:38 PM
Only slightly less absurd than comparing AR to Kevin Garnett, or Gallo to Dirk. We're all pumped about the season, but come on.
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