Its going to cost Gallo Randolph Chandler--that's the cost--atleast

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BRIGGS wrote:Now tell me what the Knicks would have to offer???? So the Nets are offering a young talented well-proven PG--the #2 player picked in this years draft and two more 1's than will not be from 2014.

Its going to cost Gallo Randolph Chandler--that's the cost.

notice the nets didn't and from what I hear, don't want to offer lopez? why is that? do they think lopez is better than melo? again, smart teams are not going to gut their talent in this type of deal.. yea, they can deal picks and even deal favors, but they want lopez to play with melo... and that makes sense...

What annoys me is how while our young players are disrespected by every writer and other GM, every other teams players are praised- do they honestly believe we have the worst young players in the league? Really?

Why do all the writers sing Devin Harris's praises all the time? He's not a real all star- he had ONE good year and made it, but I don't think he'll ever be an allstar again. He's good but not great, more on Felton's level. He's not that young anymore either- he'll turn 28 in Feb.

Also the Nets aren't actually as awash with picks as writers are making out in their frequent praising of the Nets. They have their own firsts, BUT the Golden state pick is heavily protected to the point where it will probably turn into 2 second round picks. Also they, like every other team can't trade their own pick 2 years back to back. That means they could trade one of their own picks and the golden state pick that will probably become 2 second rounders. The rest of their extra picks are 2nd rounders. Whoopie! But it doesn't stop all the writers promoting that they have 8 picks over the next 2 drafts- technically true, but they're nearly all second rounders. It's just another example of them trying to promote the Nets in the best light possible at all times.

Derrick Favors sisn't look good in summer league, he might pan out or he might be a bust- love that the press are making out he has more value by far than Anthony Randolph.

My anti-net frustrations aside, Denver is set at PG- they have Billups, then they have Lawson waiting to take over- why would another point guard remotely interest them? It wouldn't. So the only parts of the trade that would interest them would be Favors, a 1st rounder and golden states pick that will probably end up being a second round pick in several years time. I don't see how thats objectively better than AR, Gallo, Chandler and our 2014 1st rounder (that would be stupidly overpaying by far). I wouldn't even offer all that, but I just find the reporting on this subject and the downplaying of our talent and it's value, ridiculous

nyvector16 wrote:Why would anyone give the Nuggets any substantial talent in any trade scenario for a 1 year Carmelo rental.
If he does not agree to sign an extension with anyone but the Knicks... They are screwed and must take what we offer. or lose him for nothing.
Nobody is going to trade for him without an extension in place. Period.

If they know they will resign--why not? Don't you think assurances will be made? These are not idiots:)

nyvector16 wrote:Why would anyone give the Nuggets any substantial talent in any trade scenario for a 1 year Carmelo rental.
If he does not agree to sign an extension with anyone but the Knicks... They are screwed and must take what we offer. or lose him for nothing.
Nobody is going to trade for him without an extension in place. Period.

i think an extension is an assumption with a Denver Melo trade.

martin wrote:

nyvector16 wrote:Why would anyone give the Nuggets any substantial talent in any trade scenario for a 1 year Carmelo rental.
If he does not agree to sign an extension with anyone but the Knicks... They are screwed and must take what we offer. or lose him for nothing.
Nobody is going to trade for him without an extension in place. Period.

i think an extension is an assumption with a Denver Melo trade.

Noones taking anyones word on that Martin. See Boozer, Carlos.

BigDaddyG wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

tkf wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Now tell me what the Knicks would have to offer???? So the Nets are offering a young talented well-proven PG--the #2 player picked in this years draft and two more 1's than will not be from 2014.

Its going to cost Gallo Randolph Chandler--that's the cost.

notice the nets didn't and from what I hear, don't want to offer lopez? why is that? do they think lopez is better than melo? again, smart teams are not going to gut their talent in this type of deal.. yea, they can deal picks and even deal favors, but they want lopez to play with melo... and that makes sense...

The Nets dont want to trade Lopez because he has proven he is a quality NBA center. Easier to find an athletic PF than it is too get a quality center with offense.

Al Horford could be a RFA this summer and the Nets will have cap space even if they acquire Carmelo.

Denver already has Ty Lawson who is younger and cheaper than Harris. I don't see them hopping on that deal unless it's their last option.

heck 3 #1 picks and Flavors alone is a good deal alone--Harris will only have two more years on a reasonable contract where they could flip him again or just keep him. Look what we have Eddy Curry!!! value=0000 make no mistake--give me a better NY deal than 3 # 1 picks in the next two years Falvoirs and Harris---I dont see it--and #2 we would be insane to do it!!

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Now tell me what the Knicks would have to offer???? So the Nets are offering a young talented well-proven PG--the #2 player picked in this years draft and two or more 1's than will not be from 2014 as the Nets ahev 9 in the next 2 years.

Its going to cost Gallo Randolph Chandler--that's the cost--atleast

# Jon Rothstein JonRothstein

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I think the assets NJ has stock piled the past few years has been ignored or poo pooed by many because of their record. However, if NJ comes away with Melo their summer was definitely a huge success. A front line of Melo, Murphy and Lopez would be awesome. I loved the Morrow signing as well. The only thing they would be lacking would be a point guard and they do have some options there.

Those 3 #1 is impossible to match up with given that they are also including a guy many people think is going ot be very very good in Favors--just picked #2 and a very solid young PG in Harris. How could we trump that offer--and if we tried--we would be fd anyway. We made our play to get rid of Jefferies.

AnubisADL wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This was my argument--the COST!! The nets can give away 3 #1 picks like it was yesterdays news because they have 9 of them--so the cost to them is not as overwhelming as it would be to us--since we have no picks--it would cost us current assets--and once give up all that it would take--our team is Fd. For those who thought it was going top cost Chandler Gallo 2014--think again---throw in randolph Fields and GS picks + our 2014--that is a similar deal to 3 #1's favors and harris./

We have Amare eating up massive cap. So in order to capitalize on Amare's few remaining good years we need to bring him help NOW. Carmelo + Amare makes us a very good team in the East.

Gallo and AR are still in their rookie contracts next year. Felton is still cheap at $7mm if he blows up in the MDA system. Douglas is in his rookie deal. Your looking at max cap space next year if you let Chandler walk and build around a core of Felton/Douglas/AR/Gallo/Amare/Fields/Rautins/Mosgov. THATS how you build a title team. That core should be a playoff team next year. You have a chance to keep together your young players with all star potential and add another max/star guy, or use the cap space to trade for one.

All trading for Melo does is marry you to being a middle seeded playoff team for the next 5 years. Sorry, that doesnt excite me