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blueandorange
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1/18/2004  10:24 PM
why hasn't zeke pulled the trigger on a deal sending this scrub outta here?? the knicks will never win with kvh. he disappears and will choke in the playoffs.

if thomas is really such a great gm, what the heck is this goofy dude still doing here?
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simrud
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1/18/2004  10:27 PM
FLUSH
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letitbeheard
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1/18/2004  11:15 PM
Posted by simrud:

FLUSH
wow, i thought your smart ass would have an opinion about a topic like that. he just dissed your boy thomas and van horn.
flush seems like a thoughtless answer. ofcourse we can only expect that answer from a mindless baboon like yourself.
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1/18/2004  11:37 PM
Posted by letitbeheard:
Posted by simrud:

FLUSH
wow, i thought your smart ass would have an opinion about a topic like that. he just dissed your boy thomas and van horn.
flush seems like a thoughtless answer. ofcourse we can only expect that answer from a mindless baboon like yourself.
why do people hate KVH right now? The guys playing great basketball. Its not like our team is built around him (like Layden thought it was)
Would you really prefer Raweed Wallace? KVH is a 3rd option and the guys the perfect fit for our team right now. I hated the Spree trade but mostly because I knew LAyden thought just getting KVH would be a great thing and it stunk. He's more than just a role player for us, but he's NOT our main guy. Personally I've been enjoying watching him. Why the hate?
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1/18/2004  11:47 PM
letitbeheard, if you wan to insult other people please do it somewhere other than this forum.
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1/19/2004  2:26 AM
I agree with fishmike

as a 3rd (or possibly 4th if we make another nice trade with kt or whoever) option he fits in well. he has shot the 3 ball really well and plays with emotion.
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1/19/2004  2:28 AM
and I also agree that Wallace will be a cancer on the team. that guy doesn't deserve to win no matter where he goes, plus the blazers just came out saying theyre no longer shopping him-not that i ever would believe front office press releases. i'd much rather have ron artest (and he's a punk too).

[Edited by - MaseInYourFace on 01/19/2004 02:29:03]
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simrud
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1/19/2004  9:35 AM
Blueandoragng is just tying to piss everybody off now on purpose, this thigns will start to happen when lots of people join in.
This more to the MODS then to anybody you shold start looking our for people who will just start loggin in and posting stuff like "Knicks suck" or "Nets rule" etc. I'v been to forms that got destroyed cause of that, hope you guys are ready to deal with this as the Knicks get back into contention. Lite please understand that this forum has certain history of posting and that Blueandorange has never ever posted anything postive and that this post was just posted to get people all riled up. If you keep takin shots at me I'll just do what I already did once yeserday but I like this forum and try to keep my pots clean (yeah I know i mess up sometimes Martin lol) so chill out and listen to people who know more then you do about the Knicks and bball.
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1/19/2004  9:40 AM
Posted by simrud:

Blueandoragng is just tying to piss everybody off now on purpose, this thigns will start to happen when lots of people join in.
This more to the MODS then to anybody you shold start looking our for people who will just start loggin in and posting stuff like "Knicks suck" or "Nets rule" etc. I'v been to forms that got destroyed cause of that, hope you guys are ready to deal with this as the Knicks get back into contention. Lite please understand that this forum has certain history of posting and that Blueandorange has never ever posted anything postive and that this post was just posted to get people all riled up. If you keep takin shots at me I'll just do what I already did once yeserday but I like this forum and try to keep my pots clean (yeah I know i mess up sometimes Martin lol) so chill out and listen to people who know more then you do about the Knicks and bball.

Agreed. Tide comes in, tide goes out. It'll take a bit more to move all of the new guys to a better discussion level. We'll get there.
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fishmike
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1/19/2004  9:52 AM
I actually thought FLUSH was pretty good... its was apropos
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1/19/2004  10:02 AM
hahaha
I don't mean as in poker, I mean as down the toilet lol.
This is just to funny.
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1/19/2004  3:20 PM
talk about loyalty, the guy is playing the best ball he's played in a long time and some people want to kick him to the curb. people said their beef with him was he had no heart. guess what he's playing w/guys. he's gelling well with the team and playing great w/steph. i was'nt pro or anti kvh prior to the trade, but numbers don't lie and you can't deny he's playing with fire. why would you risk it w/sheed?
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1/19/2004  3:23 PM
In today's game, he led the team in rebounds (7) and steals (3)...
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1/19/2004  3:53 PM
As much as i hate to say it, keith fits.
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Posted by Caseloads:

As much as i hate to say it, keith fits.
DAMN! i hope that was'nt a typo. you just swallowed alot of pride baby. good logic.
blueandorange
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1/19/2004  7:46 PM
zeke has made a lot of good changes but keith must go if the knicks wish to get to the next level. i say this as a loyal knicks fan!
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1/19/2004  8:50 PM
No offense, but there is no reasoning behind that. Problem is Keith has been in situations where hes been expected to carry all of or most of the load. The Knicks are just fine with him as a 3rd option. Note the four game winning streak. Come up with some actual evidence that he's holding us back and I'll listen.
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1/19/2004  11:05 PM
Posted by Moleculo83:

No offense, but there is no reasoning behind that. Problem is Keith has been in situations where hes been expected to carry all of or most of the load. The Knicks are just fine with him as a 3rd option. Note the four game winning streak. Come up with some actual evidence that he's holding us back and I'll listen.

wow, a newbie with reasoning. finally. thank you.
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1/19/2004  11:06 PM
It benefits the team to create an atmosphere where existing players elevate their games.

Whether its KVH, Allan, and Marbury. Each of them can play better. Marbury as a leader, Allan stronger, and KVH in the clutch.

He carried the team in Chicago. He has had clutch moments in the past.

Bottom line, he is a better fit than Spree was.
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1/19/2004  11:17 PM
Moleculo83 is a veteran... he's just from another team.

I hated the KVH trade because I KNEW Layden would expect him and McDyess to carry this team (to 30 wins). But with Zeke this team isnt build around McDyess and KVH and Houston... its built around out 26 year old all star PG, and KVH is the PERFECT complimentary player.

I still think KVH is overpaid and isnt aggressive enough (especially late in games). He also gets banged up a lot, but like I said. He's not our star anymore, he part of what can be one of the deepest teams in the NBA.

I think if we could move Kurt for Jerome Williams and Crawford, then get Wilcox for Frank Williams we could be the best team in the East for many years to come.

Time will tell what Zeke has up his sleeve
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