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Nalod
Posts: 70776 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/22/2010 12:53 AM
It's all good until Iran does something stupid.
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
8/22/2010 1:38 AM
Yep.
Now Iran will dominate the world. Like North Korea. I am pissing my pants... "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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loweyecue
Posts: 27468 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 11/20/2005 Member: #1037 |
8/22/2010 10:48 AM
Why would Iran dominate the world? The Russians and Chinese making oil deals with Iran will end US financial dominance and the "reserve currency" status of the dollar. And now they are building nuclear power plants for the Iranians. The balance of power is shifting. Whether you piss in your pants has very little relevance.
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
8/22/2010 12:00 PM
Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them.
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firefly
Posts: 23223 Alba Posts: 17 Joined: 7/26/2004 Member: #721 United Kingdom |
8/22/2010 1:15 PM
Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. Because Iran, unlike other nuclear-powered nations have unashamedly stated their intent to wipe another country off the map. That's not the kind of itchy trigger finger you want with the bomb. Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream things that never were and ask why not?
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Solace
Posts: 30002 Alba Posts: 20 Joined: 10/30/2003 Member: #479 USA |
8/22/2010 1:30 PM LAST EDITED: 8/22/2010 1:32 PM
firefly wrote:Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. Concur, Firefly. Seriously. I don't understand how someone can make such an argument with a straight face. Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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loweyecue
Posts: 27468 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 11/20/2005 Member: #1037 |
8/22/2010 1:45 PM
Solace wrote:firefly wrote:Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. OK, but there is no shortage of news stories stating Israel stands ready to immediately bomb Iran and THEY already have nukes. How come no gets outraged at this? TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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Nalod
Posts: 70776 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/22/2010 2:21 PM
loweyecue wrote:Solace wrote:firefly wrote:Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. The apocalyptic sect in Iran does not care about retaliatory strike by Israel. They are not long term thinkers. There are three e elements in Iran vying for control. it will take somr time for Iran to make a bomb and some hope internally there is a change. |
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Nalod
Posts: 70776 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/22/2010 2:23 PM
loweyecue wrote:Solace wrote:firefly wrote:Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. Isreal has had nukes for 50 years and has not used them. They don't make proclaimations to destroy others. Iran ruling party does. |
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loweyecue
Posts: 27468 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 11/20/2005 Member: #1037 |
8/22/2010 3:48 PM
Iran's only proclamation has been about Israel and Israel has made enough statements about attacking Iran, so think we are splitting hairs here. Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, Israel does. And they are every bit as trigger happy.
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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Nalod
Posts: 70776 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/22/2010 5:44 PM
loweyecue wrote:Iran's only proclamation has been about Israel and Israel has made enough statements about attacking Iran, so think we are splitting hairs here. Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, Israel does. And they are every bit as trigger happy. Your splitting some big hairs my friend! |
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loweyecue
Posts: 27468 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 11/20/2005 Member: #1037 |
8/22/2010 6:28 PM
Yes this is what makes it such a hard case to argue. And its easy to get distracted, but my point is both those countries feel the exact same way about each other. How they express it may be different.
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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kam77
Posts: 27664 Alba Posts: 25 Joined: 3/17/2004 Member: #634 |
8/22/2010 6:47 PM
Nuclear power is Iran's sovereign right. Oil will not last forever.
Nuclear Weapons are another story. But if other countries in the region have them, it is hypocritical (and possibly racist) to say Iran shouldn't. Don't get caught up in what countries say, look at what they do. The US and Israel are the ones who go by the preemptive strike doctrine. lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
8/22/2010 8:12 PM
You can't keep a double standard for everyone. Isreal can take care of themselves. They have a very powerful army. Like I said I don't understand why people here get worked up if a country becomes Nuclear. Must I remind everyone here that no country has ever used Nuclear power. But US has used atomic weapons. If any one has an itchy finger it got to be us. If you don't want other countries to have Nuclear weapons then we need to set the first example and basically disband all our nuclear capabilities. US let Pakistan have nuclear weapons and they have taliban running a muck there. Where is the priority? I mean Russia and China is helping Iran get their facility up and running does that mean we boycott Russia and China I highly doubt we do anything to stop this building of the Facility.
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nykshaknbake
Posts: 22247 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/15/2003 Member: #492 |
8/22/2010 9:54 PM
Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. Are you serious? Well it works for ostritches. |
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toodarkmark
Posts: 21145 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/2/2004 Member: #515 USA |
8/22/2010 11:03 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. And what should we do? Allow Israel to attack them? Attack them ourselves? Maybe a regime change? That worked very well in Afghanistan and Iraq. This is just like Iraq in the early 90's and North Korea today. Douchebags trying to show how large their phalluses are and trying to goad the United States into a conflict, so that they can claim "Look at the big evil United States bullies who want to control us." So what do we do? Bomb them? Then they 100% would be justified in developing nuclear weapons because we played right into their arrogance and bravado. An ostrich ignores what is going on. Europe ignored Hitler because he was just wiping out Jews and Polacks. I don't think anyone is ignoring Iran, but they are also playing this intelligently. Something that fear mongering reactionists have little concept of doing. I don't care what people think. People are stupid. - Charles Barkley
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loweyecue
Posts: 27468 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 11/20/2005 Member: #1037 |
8/23/2010 12:06 AM
toodarkmark wrote:nykshaknbake wrote:Vmart wrote:Nuclear power is very essential if the world is to move on from oil. It seems that other countries don't have much of a problem that Iran has nuclear capability just the US. Every country has its rights to build nuclear facilities. Who are we to say no or yes to them. What do we do? Why do we have to do anything? How about we respect the rights of sovereign nations instead of trying to dictate what is or isn't right for the world. Clearly we can't even figure out what's right for us, just look at wall street. TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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Nalod
Posts: 70776 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
8/23/2010 7:19 AM
Does Israel publicly swear to destroy or do they defend?
Who funds Hezbollah? Who supports hammas? |
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Panos
Posts: 29934 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
8/23/2010 2:37 PM
Need to send in the Chosen One, to show dem wat's up.
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