as you can see he is not the most dominant center but he has elements in his game that can be worked on and be a lot better in the NBA---

his strenghts are
1) he LOVES the pick and roll- hes always moving and setting screens on offense
2) he has great timing when chasing after players for the block
3) i say his IQ is maybe a bit above average as i saw that he knows how to play
4) hes 7'1 and has a pretty decent stroke from 16 feet- can be at least a 75% f.t. shooter
5) draws lots of fouls

some weaknesses:
1)his pick and roll defense needs work
2) needs to polish up some of his offensive moves
3) commits some silly fouls (and almost always argues with ref right after like duncan)
4) doesnt have the best rebounding instincts
5) sometimes fumbles the ball

note that:
1) team Russia sucked as their 2 best players were out along with kirilenko- therefore there wasnt one player to attract attention from the defense.

2) in Europe the highest scoring average of a player through a year can be from 17ppg -20 so if you see somebody score 15 pts and 6 reb then thats pretty goood in European standards (kind of like 20pts and 10reb in NBA)

3) yes mozgov committed a lot of fouls (some silly) but he drew at least 10 per game each game from the opponent without exaggeration since one game he shot 17 free throws, he made the opponent get into foul penalty a lot more quickly! hey i think him giving at least 5 hard fouls to opposing penetrators in 20 minutes with the knicks is what we were missing these past years

4) dantoni probably fell in love with his desire for the pick and roll as he can be amares substitute

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/08/14/video-complete-mozgov-highlights/

Pavvy wrote:hey guys this is the complete mix of mozgov i made trying to show most of his repertoire during the friendly LoveCyprus tournament in preparation for the World Championships later this month.

as you can see he is not the most dominant center but he has elements in his game that can be worked on and be a lot better in the NBA---

his strenghts are
1) he LOVES the pick and roll- hes always moving and setting screens on offense
2) he has great timing when chasing after players for the block
3) i say his IQ is maybe a bit above average as i saw that he knows how to play
4) hes 7'1 and has a pretty decent stroke from 16 feet- can be at least a 75% f.t. shooter
5) draws lots of fouls

some weaknesses:
1)his pick and roll defense needs work
2) needs to polish up some of his offensive moves
3) commits some silly fouls (and almost always argues with ref right after like duncan)
4) doesnt have the best rebounding instincts
5) sometimes fumbles the ball

note that:
1) team Russia sucked as their 2 best players were out along with kirilenko- therefore there wasnt one player to attract attention from the defense.

2) in Europe the highest scoring average of a player through a year can be from 17ppg -20 so if you see somebody score 15 pts and 6 reb then thats pretty goood in European standards (kind of like 20pts and 10reb in NBA)

3) yes mozgov committed a lot of fouls (some silly) but he drew at least 10 per game each game from the opponent without exaggeration since one game he shot 17 free throws, he made the opponent get into foul penalty a lot more quickly! hey i think him giving at least 5 hard fouls to opposing penetrators in 20 minutes with the knicks is what we were missing these past years

4) dantoni probably fell in love with his desire for the pick and roll as he can be amares substitute

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/08/14/video-complete-mozgov-highlights/

So we have to D league talents who are 7-1 who will need work to get to the next level:) I don't mind developing an athletic young 7 footer--but I think we need another big with experience.

Pavvy wrote:hey guys this is the complete mix of mozgov i made trying to show most of his repertoire during the friendly LoveCyprus tournament in preparation for the World Championships later this month.

as you can see he is not the most dominant center but he has elements in his game that can be worked on and be a lot better in the NBA---

his strenghts are
1) he LOVES the pick and roll- hes always moving and setting screens on offense
2) he has great timing when chasing after players for the block
3) i say his IQ is maybe a bit above average as i saw that he knows how to play
4) hes 7'1 and has a pretty decent stroke from 16 feet- can be at least a 75% f.t. shooter
5) draws lots of fouls

some weaknesses:
1)his pick and roll defense needs work
2) needs to polish up some of his offensive moves
3) commits some silly fouls (and almost always argues with ref right after like duncan)
4) doesnt have the best rebounding instincts
5) sometimes fumbles the ball

note that:
1) team Russia sucked as their 2 best players were out along with kirilenko- therefore there wasnt one player to attract attention from the defense.

2) in Europe the highest scoring average of a player through a year can be from 17ppg -20 so if you see somebody score 15 pts and 6 reb then thats pretty goood in European standards (kind of like 20pts and 10reb in NBA)

3) yes mozgov committed a lot of fouls (some silly) but he drew at least 10 per game each game from the opponent without exaggeration since one game he shot 17 free throws, he made the opponent get into foul penalty a lot more quickly! hey i think him giving at least 5 hard fouls to opposing penetrators in 20 minutes with the knicks is what we were missing these past years

4) dantoni probably fell in love with his desire for the pick and roll as he can be amares substitute

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/08/14/video-complete-mozgov-highlights/

LMAO!!!Dude i can not stop laughing, talk about arguing calls, this kid will have more T's the rodman and rasheed combine..At one point he spiked the ball after a dunk (your a 7"ftr) that was another tech...obviously he's going to have to learn, but he is not going to give us much..

The P/R looks fluid, but he needs to go up stronger, he seems like a ****y player (which can be good) but he also seems aloof..If Eddy curry some how magages to start the season on the knicks roster, I would pay to sit in on some those practices.. With Amare, AR, Curry, Jordan, and Tim..wow..

JohnWallace44 wrote:How is it possible that we got this guy before the Nets? I can't wait for that story to come out.

Is it just because they have a more established center than us? Was Isiah recruiting him?

not much is know as they hardly talked about the process leading up to the signing and even after the signing they just left it at a nice project signing

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't think Timo is as raw as JJ. Just an observation and I could be wrong. He just looks stronger and bigger. At 270lbs he has the bulk to bang a bit so I can see him out there this yr in short stints. Remember not every team has a viable 7'er.

T mosgov has a better body than JJ but he does not have more talent. He is probably more effective becasue of his body and experience.

Did you not see him thread that pass too the cutter? (passing, check)
Did you not see him bury the jumper from 15 feet (mid range jumper, check)
Did you not see him dunk on guys (can finish, check)
Did you not see him score on that one dribble and jump hook (post moves, check)
Did you not see him blocking shots (long athletic help defender, check)

This guy has a LEGIT skill set. Only thing I have not seem him do is put the ball on the floor.

How his skills translate against players at this level of comp remains to be seen, but the guy is 7'1. This isnt some 6'7 (Sean May) type college player who's been pushing around college kids for a few years.

I'm sorry. I dont understand how you can watch BJ Mullens play 9 minutes a game with Evan Turner and ride his jock then look at this guy and say he's got no skills.

You have some explaining to do

PresIke wrote:other thing it seems, is that he likes to play the pick and roll, which is basically our bread and butter play.

i'm not saying the guy is a star, since i've never seen a real game, but perhaps a good prospect for our team.

nono he just doesnt like the pick and roll- he LOVES it - i bet thats why dantoni probably liked him!! i saw him in full games constantly setting screens for the pick and roll!!!

hes not a star- wont be a star but if he puts in the work and gets an opportunity he can be a servicable center!!

"nono he just doesnt like the pick and roll- he LOVES it"

So whatchoo sayin is if Amar'e loves the pick and roll... and Mozgov loves the pick and roll.. and Ray Felton ain't Chris Duhon... the plot could thicken around December or mid-January?

hit the open man

don't ge me started

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't think Timo is as raw as JJ. Just an observation and I could be wrong. He just looks stronger and bigger. At 270lbs he has the bulk to bang a bit so I can see him out there this yr in short stints. Remember not every team has a viable 7'er.

T mosgov has a better body than JJ but he does not have more talent. He is probably more effective becasue of his body and experience.

amigo at this point I am going to have to say your just wrong. Did you watch the video? We all agree he's athletic 7'1

Did you not see him thread that pass too the cutter? (passing, check)
Did you not see him bury the jumper from 15 feet (mid range jumper, check)
Did you not see him dunk on guys (can finish, check)
Did you not see him score on that one dribble and jump hook (post moves, check)
Did you not see him blocking shots (long athletic help defender, check)

This guy has a LEGIT skill set. Only thing I have not seem him do is put the ball on the floor.

How his skills translate against players at this level of comp remains to be seen, but the guy is 7'1. This isnt some 6'7 (Sean May) type college player who's been pushing around college kids for a few years.

I'm sorry. I dont understand how you can watch BJ Mullens play 9 minutes a game with Evan Turner and ride his jock then look at this guy and say he's got no skills.

You have some explaining to do

fishmike--being 7-1 270 and athletic is a skill by itself and can over ride talent