I would also expect NBA execs, coaches to do the same--hopefully sooner than later

It's funny that when it comes to Isiah and Dolan we need people OUTSIDE the organization to assist (like David Stern). This is such bull****

Swishfm3 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:yep... I would expect the college coaches to kill this because it is a competitive disadvantage.

I would also expect NBA execs, coaches to do the same--hopefully sooner than later

It's funny that when it comes to Isiah and Dolan we need people OUTSIDE the organization to assist (like David Stern). This is such bull****

This has nothing to do with Thomas and Dolan and more about the integrity (whats left) of the Sport. What young Basketball player with dreams of playing in the NBA, wouldn't want to play with a Coach that has a side job with a professional club?

If I was a College Coach I would pissed as well.

On the other hand, if I was a NBA owner I would be paying close attention and having John Calipari or Rick Pitino on speed dial with an offer to become my teams "consultant". Which is exactly what's going to happen if the NBA allows this to happen.

while I understand what you're saying, I tend to think an agreement between Dolan and Thomas has a lot to do with Dolan and Thomas

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:Coach K and Jim B need to stay quite. You don't think them being part of USA Basketball and coaching superstars of NBA has an advantage in recruiting. Isn't that a double standard?

i don't think it's on the same level at all... we're talking about having a conflict of interest by holding positions with a specific NBA team while also coaching at the collegiate or HS level... it's a lot different than coaching a team of superstars in International play where you have no particular affiliation to any specific NBA organization

I don't see the conflict here. Jim B and K are looking out for themselves in the recruiting. I don't see how if Isiah hold a position with the Knicks will affect anything else but recruiting. Hell if anything Jim B and K should be praising Isiah for creating another source of income for coaches as consultants. Don't let these coaches fool you they are not concerned with anything else but recruiting talent. Just as they are using the USA basketball team as a recruiting tool that is why coach K is doing this and Jim B. My concern is why are they back? shouldn't it be rotation of coaches? It looks like they got a lock on USA basketball. You talk to the other coaches and they will be just as upset with Jim B and Coach K as they are with Isiah. USA Basket ball give them a huge recruiting advantage.

Vmart wrote:

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:Coach K and Jim B need to stay quite. You don't think them being part of USA Basketball and coaching superstars of NBA has an advantage in recruiting. Isn't that a double standard?

i don't think it's on the same level at all... we're talking about having a conflict of interest by holding positions with a specific NBA team while also coaching at the collegiate or HS level... it's a lot different than coaching a team of superstars in International play where you have no particular affiliation to any specific NBA organization

I don't see the conflict here. Jim B and K are looking out for themselves in the recruiting. I don't see how if Isiah hold a position with the Knicks will affect anything else but recruiting. Hell if anything Jim B and K should be praising Isiah for creating another source of income for coaches as consultants. Don't let these coaches fool you they are not concerned with anything else but recruiting talent. Just as they are using the USA basketball team as a recruiting tool that is why coach K is doing this and Jim B. My concern is why are they back? shouldn't it be rotation of coaches? It looks like they got a lock on USA basketball. You talk to the other coaches and they will be just as upset with Jim B and Coach K as they are with Isiah. USA Basket ball give them a huge recruiting advantage.

how does coaching NBA superstars from various teams help them to recruit players to their respective universities? those guys don't need any added fame or recognition in the basketball world, they have already earned their stripes in the coaching field... Isiah on the other hand has a distinct advantage by working with these kids at the amateur level & having a specific affiliation with the NY Knicks... it's a completely different scenario.

Nalod wrote:How does it gain advantage for the knicks? Only advantage would be players not drafted.

not sure exactly of how the rules work, but consider the Amare or Jennings case. Amare did go from HS direct into pros, which can't happen any more, but Isiah scouting HS kids and telling them to sit tight and not go into draft would indeed help Knicks over every other team which wouldn't be allowed to talk to HS kids at that time.

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:Coach K and Jim B need to stay quite. You don't think them being part of USA Basketball and coaching superstars of NBA has an advantage in recruiting. Isn't that a double standard?

i don't think it's on the same level at all... we're talking about having a conflict of interest by holding positions with a specific NBA team while also coaching at the collegiate or HS level... it's a lot different than coaching a team of superstars in International play where you have no particular affiliation to any specific NBA organization

I don't see the conflict here. Jim B and K are looking out for themselves in the recruiting. I don't see how if Isiah hold a position with the Knicks will affect anything else but recruiting. Hell if anything Jim B and K should be praising Isiah for creating another source of income for coaches as consultants. Don't let these coaches fool you they are not concerned with anything else but recruiting talent. Just as they are using the USA basketball team as a recruiting tool that is why coach K is doing this and Jim B. My concern is why are they back? shouldn't it be rotation of coaches? It looks like they got a lock on USA basketball. You talk to the other coaches and they will be just as upset with Jim B and Coach K as they are with Isiah. USA Basket ball give them a huge recruiting advantage.

how does coaching NBA superstars from various teams help them to recruit players to their respective universities? those guys don't need any added fame or recognition in the basketball world, they have already earned their stripes in the coaching field... Isiah on the other hand has a distinct advantage by working with these kids at the amateur level & having a specific affiliation with the NY Knicks... it's a completely different scenario.

Of course it helps!! Again, what player wouldn't want to play for a College Coach that is capable of getting you into the NBA? I wouldn't be surprised if that's part of their recruiting pitch...

"I'm so good, they have me Coaching the best of the best of the NBA as well."

At the end, I dont think their worried about Thomas and FIU...I think COack K and Boeheim are more worried about what may happen in the future if the NBA allows this. which is, my opinion, NBA teams will hire NCAA coaching staff to become their part time consultant to get an early jump on scouting reports.

JohnWallace44 wrote:You guys are missing the point. Mike K and Jim are coaches WITH MikeD on the USA squad. They are obviously speaking out because MikeD wants them to help keep Isiah out of the Knicks organization.

wow...is that what you got out of this?