martin wrote:THIS IS AWESOME for the Knicks! Al will drive Carmelo so nuts that there is no way he would want to stay on that team.

Donnie still making the right moves behind the scenes? Or did the Most Interesting Man force this trade?

Whichever, it's still good for the Knicks.

I think Al likes it to!

Paladin55 wrote:So this is a Mid-level exception signing??

A pity that teams are "forced" against their will to pay players like Harrington this much. Those poor, cash strapped, teams.

The MLE is what's screwing teams under this CBA, though they have only themselves to blame. Too many teams are throwing the full MLE at players who don't deserve it simply because they have it and it seems to them to be the only way to improve, and it ends up with them having salary cap problems. I'm against a hard cap in the new CBA, instead I think the negotiations should mainly focus on sorting out the MLE, maybe shortening it to 2 or 3 years.

I thought it was funny that Al was saying he just wants to win now, and play for a winner, and yet the reason why he signed with the Nuggets (who have big problems if Carmelo leaves) over the Mavs was because he'll get to start- he still wants to be the man! I don't like this move for the Nuggets, the contracts too long and he plays too selfishly to fit in well with Carmelo and JR. But hopefully he drives Carmelo out of town...

martin wrote:THIS IS AWESOME for the Knicks! Al will drive Carmelo so nuts that there is no way he would want to stay on that team.

Donnie still making the right moves behind the scenes? Or did the Most Interesting Man force this trade?

Whichever, it's still good for the Knicks.

Papabear Says

No this is not good. Players stick together. Harrington will be bending Carmello's ear telling him just how bad the Knicks management is and D'Antonis no defense and how he treat players is.
I trully beleive Carmello ain't coming. We need to stop dreaming and get real by building through the draft and developing young players. We had that but then we chased them all away.

Papabear wrote:

martin wrote:THIS IS AWESOME for the Knicks! Al will drive Carmelo so nuts that there is no way he would want to stay on that team.

Donnie still making the right moves behind the scenes? Or did the Most Interesting Man force this trade?

Whichever, it's still good for the Knicks.

Papabear Says

No this is not good. Players stick together. Harrington will be bending Carmello's ear telling him just how bad the Knicks management is and D'Antonis no defense and how he treat players is.
I trully beleive Carmello ain't coming. We need to stop dreaming and get real by building through the draft and developing young players. We had that but then we chased them all away.

I still don't get how people look at our roster and say we aren't building properly. If we had drafted we could not have fielded a team that has as many players that are good but still have upside. There have been some teams that have been in the lottery for years that don't look as young and potential laden as ours

Papabear wrote:

martin wrote:THIS IS AWESOME for the Knicks! Al will drive Carmelo so nuts that there is no way he would want to stay on that team.

Donnie still making the right moves behind the scenes? Or did the Most Interesting Man force this trade?

Whichever, it's still good for the Knicks.

Papabear Says

No this is not good. Players stick together. Harrington will be bending Carmello's ear telling him just how bad the Knicks management is and D'Antonis no defense and how he treat players is.
I trully beleive Carmello ain't coming. We need to stop dreaming and get real by building through the draft and developing young players. We had that but then we chased them all away.

Papabear, we're gonna see what kind of team we have when they roll out the balls this year. If two or three guys are playing agressive D, maybe it becomes contagious. It sure happened in reverse.

Bippity10 wrote:I still don't get how people look at our roster and say we aren't building properly. If we had drafted we could not have fielded a team that has as many players that are good but still have upside. There have been some teams that have been in the lottery for years that don't look as young and potential laden as ours

Yup. Folks should just imagine that we drafted the guys we now have- not a hard thing to do.

This Knicks team, as constituted, could play together 5/6 years and be a competitive unit, if that is what management chooses to do, and if Gallo and Randolph actually reach full potential, we will have 2 stars who can be productive players for the next 10 years anchoring our front line.

Curry-      2001 #4   27
Amare-      2002 #9   27
Turiaf-     2005 #37  27
Felton-     2005 #5   26
Azubuike-   2005 --   26
Chandler-   2007 #23  23
Gallinari-  2008 #6   22
Randolph-   2008 #14  21
Walker-     2008 #47  22
Douglas-    2009 #29  24
Fields-     2010 #38  22
Rautins-    2010 #37  23
Jordan-     2020 #44  24
Mosgov-     2020 --   24

Team age- 23.9 without Curry (Age as of start of season)