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7/13/2010  4:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2010  4:10 PM

Note there's some bad language so don't listen to it if you're at work or around kids or whatever.

Interesting take from an outside perspective.

Robin Quivers thought Mello came straight from Highschool, only comment I thought was off.

What a great perspective, from a non basketball guy .

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7/13/2010  4:11 PM
I dont usually listen to Stern but he makes very good points. That letter Gilbert put out was totally unprofessional. The way Lebron handled this was wrong, of course, but if Lebron was such a bad person in Gilbert's eyes why did he have a 120 mil on the table for him.
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7/13/2010  4:20 PM
Sometimes we get so hyped up mentally about the teams and games itself, we forget it's their job.
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7/13/2010  4:25 PM
I almost agree with everything Howard says. Lebron did nothing wrong in leaving. He can do whatever he wants. He can choose whatever team he wants. I dont' hate Lebron for making this decision. What I don't like:

1.) The prime time special was ridiculous. Again, it's his right to do this. But to me it was ridiculous.
2.) Gilbert's letter was unprofessional and not something a major exec/owner should do. But Lebron was equally unprofessional with the way he handled the situation. So now we have two unprofessional people and both are being attacked for it. Lebron did not owe Cleveland anything but the respect and this process to me was not respectful
3.) Everytime something doesn't go the "workers" way, are we going to call it slavery. The players negotiated the deal with the owners and lost
4.) I have no problem with Cav's fans reacting negatively towards Lebron. They loved the guy, put money in his pocket, bought his jersey, worshipped him and he left. Again, Lebron had the right to leave. But the fans have the right to feel betrayed.
5.) Gilbert should stop crying and build another team.
6.) Lebron is still a sissy for picking the easy way out. Jordan would never have done it, and he is the hallmark for me.

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7/13/2010  4:31 PM
Bippity10 wrote:I almost agree with everything Howard says. Lebron did nothing wrong in leaving. He can do whatever he wants. He can choose whatever team he wants. I dont' hate Lebron for making this decision. What I don't like:

1.) The prime time special was ridiculous. Again, it's his right to do this. But to me it was ridiculous.
2.) Gilbert's letter was unprofessional and not something a major exec/owner should do. But Lebron was equally unprofessional with the way he handled the situation. So now we have two unprofessional people and both are being attacked for it. Lebron did not owe Cleveland anything but the respect and this process to me was not respectful
3.) Everytime something doesn't go the "workers" way, are we going to call it slavery. The players negotiated the deal with the owners and lost
4.) I have no problem with Cav's fans reacting negatively towards Lebron. They loved the guy, put money in his pocket, bought his jersey, worshipped him and he left. Again, Lebron had the right to leave. But the fans have the right to feel betrayed.
5.) Gilbert should stop crying and build another team.
6.) Lebron is still a sissy for picking the easy way out. Jordan would never have done it, and he is the hallmark for me.

1.) You have the right to express your opinion that LeBron had the right to do those things, and that the fans have the right to feel the way they feel.

2.) You have the right to party all night.

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7/13/2010  4:34 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I almost agree with everything Howard says. Lebron did nothing wrong in leaving. He can do whatever he wants. He can choose whatever team he wants. I dont' hate Lebron for making this decision. What I don't like:

1.) The prime time special was ridiculous. Again, it's his right to do this. But to me it was ridiculous.
2.) Gilbert's letter was unprofessional and not something a major exec/owner should do. But Lebron was equally unprofessional with the way he handled the situation. So now we have two unprofessional people and both are being attacked for it. Lebron did not owe Cleveland anything but the respect and this process to me was not respectful
3.) Everytime something doesn't go the "workers" way, are we going to call it slavery. The players negotiated the deal with the owners and lost
4.) I have no problem with Cav's fans reacting negatively towards Lebron. They loved the guy, put money in his pocket, bought his jersey, worshipped him and he left. Again, Lebron had the right to leave. But the fans have the right to feel betrayed.
5.) Gilbert should stop crying and build another team.
6.) Lebron is still a sissy for picking the easy way out. Jordan would never have done it, and he is the hallmark for me.

1.) You have the right to express your opinion that LeBron had the right to do those things, and that the fans have the right to feel the way they feel.

2.) You have the right to party all night.

1.) was a joke by you, but actually very true. Lebron had a right to leave. Fans had a right to be upset by it. Lebron has a right to think they are treating Lebron unfairly. Gilbert has a right to be upset. And if everyone has a right to do what they want to do, then who is the slave?

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7/13/2010  4:45 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I almost agree with everything Howard says. Lebron did nothing wrong in leaving. He can do whatever he wants. He can choose whatever team he wants. I dont' hate Lebron for making this decision. What I don't like:

1.) The prime time special was ridiculous. Again, it's his right to do this. But to me it was ridiculous.
2.) Gilbert's letter was unprofessional and not something a major exec/owner should do. But Lebron was equally unprofessional with the way he handled the situation. So now we have two unprofessional people and both are being attacked for it. Lebron did not owe Cleveland anything but the respect and this process to me was not respectful
3.) Everytime something doesn't go the "workers" way, are we going to call it slavery. The players negotiated the deal with the owners and lost
4.) I have no problem with Cav's fans reacting negatively towards Lebron. They loved the guy, put money in his pocket, bought his jersey, worshipped him and he left. Again, Lebron had the right to leave. But the fans have the right to feel betrayed.
5.) Gilbert should stop crying and build another team.
6.) Lebron is still a sissy for picking the easy way out. Jordan would never have done it, and he is the hallmark for me.

1.) You have the right to express your opinion that LeBron had the right to do those things, and that the fans have the right to feel the way they feel.

2.) You have the right to party all night.

1.) was a joke by you, but actually very true. Lebron had a right to leave. Fans had a right to be upset by it. Lebron has a right to think they are treating Lebron unfairly. Gilbert has a right to be upset. And if everyone has a right to do what they want to do, then who is the slave?

And the fans in Miami have a right to be happy that LeBron has taken his talents to South Beach.

https:// It's not so hard.
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7/13/2010  5:30 PM
Bippity10 wrote:I almost agree with everything Howard says. Lebron did nothing wrong in leaving. He can do whatever he wants. He can choose whatever team he wants. I dont' hate Lebron for making this decision. What I don't like:

1.) The prime time special was ridiculous. Again, it's his right to do this. But to me it was ridiculous.
2.) Gilbert's letter was unprofessional and not something a major exec/owner should do. But Lebron was equally unprofessional with the way he handled the situation. So now we have two unprofessional people and both are being attacked for it. Lebron did not owe Cleveland anything but the respect and this process to me was not respectful
3.) Everytime something doesn't go the "workers" way, are we going to call it slavery. The players negotiated the deal with the owners and lost
4.) I have no problem with Cav's fans reacting negatively towards Lebron. They loved the guy, put money in his pocket, bought his jersey, worshipped him and he left. Again, Lebron had the right to leave. But the fans have the right to feel betrayed.
5.) Gilbert should stop crying and build another team.
6.) Lebron is still a sissy for picking the easy way out. Jordan would never have done it, and he is the hallmark for me.

That's great that you aired your opinion on the matter.

Losing money can make many a man change his feelings how he feels towards others.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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7/13/2010  5:39 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I almost agree with everything Howard says. Lebron did nothing wrong in leaving. He can do whatever he wants. He can choose whatever team he wants. I dont' hate Lebron for making this decision. What I don't like:

1.) The prime time special was ridiculous. Again, it's his right to do this. But to me it was ridiculous.
2.) Gilbert's letter was unprofessional and not something a major exec/owner should do. But Lebron was equally unprofessional with the way he handled the situation. So now we have two unprofessional people and both are being attacked for it. Lebron did not owe Cleveland anything but the respect and this process to me was not respectful
3.) Everytime something doesn't go the "workers" way, are we going to call it slavery. The players negotiated the deal with the owners and lost
4.) I have no problem with Cav's fans reacting negatively towards Lebron. They loved the guy, put money in his pocket, bought his jersey, worshipped him and he left. Again, Lebron had the right to leave. But the fans have the right to feel betrayed.
5.) Gilbert should stop crying and build another team.
6.) Lebron is still a sissy for picking the easy way out. Jordan would never have done it, and he is the hallmark for me.

1.) You have the right to express your opinion that LeBron had the right to do those things, and that the fans have the right to feel the way they feel.

2.) You have the right to party all night.

1.) was a joke by you, but actually very true. Lebron had a right to leave. Fans had a right to be upset by it. Lebron has a right to think they are treating Lebron unfairly. Gilbert has a right to be upset. And if everyone has a right to do what they want to do, then who is the slave?

And the fans in Miami have a right to be happy that LeBron has taken his talents to South Beach.

Agreed

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playa2 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I almost agree with everything Howard says. Lebron did nothing wrong in leaving. He can do whatever he wants. He can choose whatever team he wants. I dont' hate Lebron for making this decision. What I don't like:

1.) The prime time special was ridiculous. Again, it's his right to do this. But to me it was ridiculous.
2.) Gilbert's letter was unprofessional and not something a major exec/owner should do. But Lebron was equally unprofessional with the way he handled the situation. So now we have two unprofessional people and both are being attacked for it. Lebron did not owe Cleveland anything but the respect and this process to me was not respectful
3.) Everytime something doesn't go the "workers" way, are we going to call it slavery. The players negotiated the deal with the owners and lost
4.) I have no problem with Cav's fans reacting negatively towards Lebron. They loved the guy, put money in his pocket, bought his jersey, worshipped him and he left. Again, Lebron had the right to leave. But the fans have the right to feel betrayed.
5.) Gilbert should stop crying and build another team.
6.) Lebron is still a sissy for picking the easy way out. Jordan would never have done it, and he is the hallmark for me.


Losing money can make many a man change his feelings how he feels towards others.

Of course it can. Gilbert just saw his franchise lose millions of dollars in revenue. His raw emotion to me was understandable. Now it's time for him to buck up and build another team.

I just hope that people will like me
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7/13/2010  5:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2010  6:17 PM
The non basketball issue was never whether it was right or wrong to leave. It's obvious he has a right to leave. It's that if you are going to leave you owe it to an organization that treated you so well and your HOMETOWN to let them know as soon as possible and in a way that minimizes the pain for all involved. He did the complete opposite and deserves to be trashed for it. Howard Stern is such an insensitive non human it's probably not within his range to even understand how much it meant to Cavs fans and the difficulty it presents for current ownership. All it would have taken was good communication with Gilbert all spring and summer and a nice quiet decision and signing.

The basketball issue is that he is taking the easy road to championship. No one holds it against great players to want a good supporting cast etc... However, people expect you to be the leader and take a team to the championship in a war against another great team and player. Teaming up with Wade (who has already done that) will diminish his legacy as that kind of player.
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7/13/2010  5:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2010  6:12 PM
Oh and by the way, Stern is an idiot and doesn't understand the rationale for the salary cap, how it's tied to revenue etc...
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7/13/2010  6:23 PM
Howard stern sounds like a bitter former employee.. I understand some of his points but here is the problem I have..

*we all know lebron had the right to leave.. yea, we get it.. It is how he handled his business that is in question.. yes gilbert was wrong, but I can understand his anger...

* As an owner gilbert can only think back to the playoffs when lebron had two horrible games in which his team lost and they were eliminated, he can only wonder if lebron was giving his all? or had lebron already checked out to play in miami. Again, this "collusion" thing somewhat calls into question the integrity of the game, if this is what really went on..

* High paid slaves? really? slaves didn't have a choice, lebron doesn't have to play basketball, he can sell insurance, or work as a delivery driver if he wants.

*And the notion that owners can trade a player if his production declines is true, but here is the kicker, NBA contracts are guaranteed. the player still gets paid....

Again, the point here is how lebron handled the situation, not that he didn't have a right to leave....

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7/13/2010  6:38 PM
tkf wrote:Howard stern sounds like a bitter former employee.. I understand some of his points but here is the problem I have..

*we all know lebron had the right to leave.. yea, we get it.. It is how he handled his business that is in question.. yes gilbert was wrong, but I can understand his anger...

* As an owner gilbert can only think back to the playoffs when lebron had two horrible games in which his team lost and they were eliminated, he can only wonder if lebron was giving his all? or had lebron already checked out to play in miami. Again, this "collusion" thing somewhat calls into question the integrity of the game, if this is what really went on..

* High paid slaves? really? slaves didn't have a choice, lebron doesn't have to play basketball, he can sell insurance, or work as a delivery driver if he wants.

*And the notion that owners can trade a player if his production declines is true, but here is the kicker, NBA contracts are guaranteed. the player still gets paid....

Again, the point here is how lebron handled the situation, not that he didn't have a right to leave....

I was waitng for your take Terry

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tkf wrote:Howard stern sounds like a bitter former employee.. I understand some of his points but here is the problem I have..

*we all know lebron had the right to leave.. yea, we get it.. It is how he handled his business that is in question.. yes gilbert was wrong, but I can understand his anger...

* As an owner gilbert can only think back to the playoffs when lebron had two horrible games in which his team lost and they were eliminated, he can only wonder if lebron was giving his all? or had lebron already checked out to play in miami. Again, this "collusion" thing somewhat calls into question the integrity of the game, if this is what really went on..

* High paid slaves? really? slaves didn't have a choice, lebron doesn't have to play basketball, he can sell insurance, or work as a delivery driver if he wants.

*And the notion that owners can trade a player if his production declines is true, but here is the kicker, NBA contracts are guaranteed. the player still gets paid....

Again, the point here is how lebron handled the situation, not that he didn't have a right to leave....


I agree with both Bip and tkf. Both make good points.

I am glad LeBron left Cleveland. He had to leave the nest and expand his territory. The part I don't like; can't stand; hate is that he went with 2 of the other best FA available and together, they have made a mockery out of competition. No fun watching them play....I can watch the Harlem Globetrotters play the Washington Generals and have as good, if not a better time. And it won't cost as much.

All of these people are very rich, spoiled, multi-millionaires. They make their money off of us. Well, not me. I will not go to watch the Heat play, nor will I ever buy a product endorsed by one of the three. Big Boycott of the Big Three. But I will go to watch the Knicks play when I am in NY and root for my team.

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7/13/2010  6:57 PM
Stern is entertaining. Nothing more. Howard Stern was dumped by CBS years ago and he based his view on that.

Gilbert's comments were out of line, but Stern backing the "Slave" viewpoint is nothing more than shock rants for ratings sake.

Stern is working on a Half a billion dollar contract.

Nobody begrudges why Lebron left, just the manner by which he did.
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7/13/2010  7:22 PM
This is 2010. The NBA will survive Labron, going to the Heat. People forget Wilt Chamberlin, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West? on same team. Labron went to the better situation. The owner was disrespectful to a 25 year old kid. Terrible...
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7/13/2010  7:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2010  7:35 PM
Ummm...howard stern is trash...funny as hell but trash....all he cares about is being funny...which is all i do, but i know 99% of what i say i say for enjoyment purposes....he knows that to....do u?
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7/13/2010  7:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2010  7:52 PM
howard stern is basketballjones without class? discuss?
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7/13/2010  8:24 PM
So what if Lebron made his announcment on July 1st and the owner still trashed him, would some of you owner lovers feel the same ?
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