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fishmike
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7/12/2010  11:31 AM
with the cap used up and the roster filled out I'm guessing this is close to what we start the year with.

I think our SL looks something like this:
PG Felton
SG Chandler
SF Gallo
PF Amare
C Turiaf
bench: Douglas, Randolph, Azubuke (fringe minutes)

If Azubuke is healthy he pushes Walker and the rookies out of the picture. I'm not even commenting on the Russian guy until we see him play.

Turiaf is a good player to start next to Amare and play 15-20 minutes a game. He will stretch out Amare's health and keep some of the early banging to a minimum. MDA played Amare 33-34 minutes a night in Pho. Expect the same here.

Chandler as a starting guard last year: 38 games, 37mpg, 17ppg, 5.6rpg, 2.3 assists and 50% FG%
I am quite comfortable with him starting there despite being a combo forward type.

I think the size, rebounding, defense combo to start games will allow Felton to motor north and south and establish our size early.

Which brings us to the main 2 bench guys in Douglas and AR. Two fast up and down scorers who both defend with great fervor.

This type of rotation is in the mold of when the KNicks went to the finals against the Spurs. They started with size. They had Ewing, Kurt and LJ up front. Then they brought Spree and Camby off the bench and went uptempo. MDA loves the 7 man rotation and Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Amare, Turiaf, Douglas and AR is DAMN GOOD starting 7 for an uptempo team. Tons of size and skill and defense.

Having the veteran PG (who comes from playing w/ Larry Brown) and the veteran 5 time all star in the frontcourt who has played w/ MDA before helps us get up to speed quickly.

Still... with so many young players and new players it may take a bit of time but I see a big, skilled and deep team. 45-48 wins. 5-6th seed behind the Magic, Bos, Hawks, Heat and Bulls. I think we are just as good as Mil, Char and better than all the other teams in the East.

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7/12/2010  11:36 AM
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7/12/2010  11:36 AM
C. = CURRY
PF = AMARE
SF = DANILLO
SG = WILSON
PG = FELTON

I think Curry is going to play for a new contract and his trade value peak at the deadline and Walsh will have to decide is it fools gold and trade him or consider that he may have changed his ways and keep him.

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7/12/2010  11:39 AM
CHAOS wrote:C. = CURRY
PF = AMARE
SF = DANILLO
SG = WILSON
PG = FELTON

I think Curry is going to play for a new contract and his trade value peak at the deadline and Walsh will have to decide is it fools gold and trade him or consider that he may have changed his ways and keep him.

Curry is going to sprain his vag during training camp. No point in him being in the SL.

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7/12/2010  11:40 AM
fishmike wrote:with the cap used up and the roster filled out I'm guessing this is close to what we start the year with.

I think our SL looks something like this:
PG Felton
SG Chandler
SF Gallo
PF Amare
C Turiaf
bench: Douglas, Randolph, Azubuke (fringe minutes)

If Azubuke is healthy he pushes Walker and the rookies out of the picture. I'm not even commenting on the Russian guy until we see him play.

Turiaf is a good player to start next to Amare and play 15-20 minutes a game. He will stretch out Amare's health and keep some of the early banging to a minimum. MDA played Amare 33-34 minutes a night in Pho. Expect the same here.

Chandler as a starting guard last year: 38 games, 37mpg, 17ppg, 5.6rpg, 2.3 assists and 50% FG%
I am quite comfortable with him starting there despite being a combo forward type.

I think the size, rebounding, defense combo to start games will allow Felton to motor north and south and establish our size early.

Which brings us to the main 2 bench guys in Douglas and AR. Two fast up and down scorers who both defend with great fervor.

This type of rotation is in the mold of when the KNicks went to the finals against the Spurs. They started with size. They had Ewing, Kurt and LJ up front. Then they brought Spree and Camby off the bench and went uptempo. MDA loves the 7 man rotation and Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Amare, Turiaf, Douglas and AR is DAMN GOOD starting 7 for an uptempo team. Tons of size and skill and defense.

Having the veteran PG (who comes from playing w/ Larry Brown) and the veteran 5 time all star in the frontcourt who has played w/ MDA before helps us get up to speed quickly.

Still... with so many young players and new players it may take a bit of time but I see a big, skilled and deep team. 45-48 wins. 5-6th seed behind the Magic, Bos, Hawks, Heat and Bulls. I think we are just as good as Mil, Char and better than all the other teams in the East.


I dont think Turiaff and Azubike will even be ready for the season.

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7/12/2010  11:41 AM
CHAOS wrote:C. = CURRY
PF = AMARE
SF = DANILLO
SG = WILSON
PG = FELTON

I think Curry is going to play for a new contract and his trade value peak at the deadline and Walsh will have to decide is it fools gold and trade him or consider that he may have changed his ways and keep him.

he's done. He may or may not show up healthy but he's not playing for the Knicks next year.
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7/12/2010  11:41 AM
Wilson Chandler's inability to hit 3 pointers is a huge liability in the MDA offense. I would much prefer Azubuike to get the bulk of the 2-guard minutes.
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7/12/2010  11:42 AM
Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.

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7/12/2010  11:42 AM
PG-Felton
SG-Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Randolph
C- Amare

bench: Turiaf, Douglas, azibuke, walker

Win Total: 45

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7/12/2010  11:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/12/2010  11:52 AM
Vmart wrote:Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.

Gallo was shooting close to 40% all season. FG % should go up with a PG who can break down the defense

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7/12/2010  11:49 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I dont think Turiaff and Azubike will even be ready for the season.
I know he's not playing in the worlds for France because of his knee, but I thought it was just an issue of rest to avoid wear and tear. Azubuke had ortho and was supposed to 2-3 months. I will have to check.
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7/12/2010  11:53 AM
Vmart wrote:Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.


last years team won 30 games. So a frontcourt upgrade from Lee/Harrington to Amare/AR, a PG upgrade from Duhon/Sergio to Felton, added size up front and Gallo/Douglas a year older and better = a 6 win improvement?

I dont get it. 36 wins puts you about 10th in the East. Who are the 9 teams better than the Knicks?

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7/12/2010  11:54 AM
Vmart wrote:Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.

I think we need to have a better more defined bench--what that will be cannot be computed yet. I dont like that we dont have a real PG to back up Felton because we can easily use Doulas as sixth man--like JC in Atlanta--perhaps in 3 guard sets. It will be VERY important that we get another true PG because we have 3 6-11 players who will need it.

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7/12/2010  11:57 AM
nyk4ever wrote:PG-Felton
SG-Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Randolph
C- Amare

bench: Turiaf, Douglas, azibuke, walker

Win Total: 45

45 wins? Wow. very optimistic in an eastern conference that got tougher at the top.

SL
pg Felton
sg Chandler
sf Gallo
pf Amare
c Turiaf

bench: Randolph (will play more mins than Turiaf off the bench), Azibuke, Douglas,Walker

39 wins

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7/12/2010  12:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.

I think we need to have a better more defined bench--what that will be cannot be computed yet. I dont like that we dont have a real PG to back up Felton because we can easily use Doulas as sixth man--like JC in Atlanta--perhaps in 3 guard sets. It will be VERY important that we get another true PG because we have 3 6-11 players who will need it.

Douglas is a guy who can play 30 minutes a night off the bench. 12 minutes (give or take) as a backup PG and 18 minutes in 3 guard line up or just sliding to the SG with Chandler moving the SF etc.

At the very worst Douglas takes great care of the ball and can create his own shot. Maybe when he's playing the backup role and Felton is sitting you run the ball through Gallo in the high post like they did w/ Lee.

Douglas is a legit backup. Would you rather have Ridnour or Blake or Farmar getting those minutes? I would rather have the guy who scores and defends like Douglas

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7/12/2010  12:03 PM
Uptown wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:PG-Felton
SG-Chandler
SF-Gallo
PF-Randolph
C- Amare

bench: Turiaf, Douglas, azibuke, walker

Win Total: 45

45 wins? Wow. very optimistic in an eastern conference that got tougher at the top.

SL
pg Felton
sg Chandler
sf Gallo
pf Amare
c Turiaf

bench: Randolph (will play more mins than Turiaf off the bench), Azibuke, Douglas,Walker

39 wins

i don't think it's that optimistic to be honest with you. with a pg who fits like a glove into miked's offense (which is obviously important in such a pg-reliant offense) a much much more athletic and offensive-minded frontcourt and gallo being a year older and wider, i think this team can definitely have a huge regular season. with that said, i don't think this team would be a threat to win a first round playoff series, unless they get an easy draw.. just don't think they're ready for it yet. the regular season is a different story though, i think this team can outrun anyone on any night.

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7/12/2010  12:11 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.

Gallo was shooting close to 40% all season. FG % should go up with a PG who can break down the offense

Randolph at best is a mid range game type of player and around the basket player. When your 10' from the basket his percentage has to be better than 42% and at 6'11'' he has no business being outside that range. Gallo has to get better too they all do its a given he can't shoot a dismal 42% either. I do not like this camping outside the three point line BS. D'Antoni has to make Gallo and Chandler into slashers, that puts pressure on the opposing teams.

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7/12/2010  12:11 PM
If everyone is healthy:

pg Felton
sg Chandler
sf Gallo
pf Randolph
c Amare

bench: Azibuke, Douglas, Walker

Record? At best, 41/41. But I have a feeling that in spite of the improvements and upgrades, we'll be lucky to get into high 30's (37-39).

This is the first time MDA will actually have to coach - and his butt is on the line.

I'd be curious to hear what others think as far as what will take to get MDA fired? 10 games under in January?

Does he get the whole year? Will it be his short rotation and failure to try to find time for some of the newer, younger guys brought in?

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7/12/2010  12:17 PM
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.

Gallo was shooting close to 40% all season. FG % should go up with a PG who can break down the offense

Randolph at best is a mid range game type of player and around the basket player. When your 10' from the basket his percentage has to be better than 42% and at 6'11'' he has no business being outside that range. Gallo has to get better too they all do its a given he can't shoot a dismal 42% either. I do not like this camping outside the three point line BS. D'Antoni has to make Gallo and Chandler into slashers, that puts pressure on the opposing teams.


Where are you getting your AR #s from? I see his FG% at 46.2 and 44.3% for his two seasons. (I do agree he needs to get that up though.)
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7/12/2010  12:19 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:Felton pg
Chandler sg
Randolph c
Amare pf
Gallo sf

Bench: Douglas, Walker, Turiaf, Azubuike, Timo, Fields and Routins and JJ.

36 wins

For me it all depends on Gallo, Chandler and AR: Chandler has to be more aggressive in creating shots for himself and for others. Gallo also has to increase his level of aggressiveness. AR simple cannot shoot a dismal 40% from the field no way in hell should a 6'11'' player ever shoot that poorly. If he can elevate his shot selection and get it to over 50% he will be an awesome player.

Gallo was shooting close to 40% all season. FG % should go up with a PG who can break down the defense

This is assuming Felton will not do a Duhon and ignore Gallo every trip down.

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