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If/when Bron spurns us... I believe Ray Felton should be a primary target.
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crzymdups
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7/5/2010  7:28 PM
Felton is tough, can score, defend and distribute. He's had stretches in Charlotte where he's put up 20 and 10 and carried the team. I think he'd be a great piece - perfect in the pick and roll with Amare. I do not believe Parker will be made available to us.

I would re-sign David Lee to $9M first year salary and offer Ray Felton $8M first year salary. Or $10M to dlee and $7M to ray.

Also, Ray wants to play for D'Antoni... and what point guard doesn't want to pass to Amare?

Now that the Knicks have agreed to terms with free-agent power forward Amar'e Stoudemire, the process of surrounding him with talent capable of winning a championship begins.

"The Knicks are back," Stoudemire told the assembled media at Madison Square Garden Monday after agreeing in principle to a five-year, $99.8 million deal.

Stoudemire also said that he'd be reaching out to LeBron James with a recruiting pitch. If that doesn't work, what are the Knicks' other options? Sources confirmed Monday that the primary target would be Carmelo Anthony, who'd be an unrestricted free agent next summer -- or available at the February trade deadline -- if he doesn't accept the Nuggets' three-year, $65 million extension offer. CBSSports.com first reported Saturday that there's "zero chance" Denver officials will agree to trade Anthony this summer.

In the meantime, the Knicks will continue searching for a pick-and-roll partner for Stoudemire to operate with -- and if it isn't James, free-agent point guard Raymond Felton will be a primary target. The Knicks have had discussions about a sign-and-trade for Felton that would involve their own free-agent power forward, David Lee, a person with knowledge of the talks said Monday. But the Bobcats are lukewarm on such a proposal for the same reason they've had zero conversations with Felton's agent, Tony Dutt, about re-signing him -- the luxury-tax implications. But don't rule out such a scenario yet; a person with close ties to Felton said Monday that the Bobcats point guard is intrigued by the possibility of pairing with Stoudemire in coach Mike D'Antoni's triple-threat, pick-and-roll offense.


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crzymdups
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7/5/2010  7:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2010  7:31 PM
PG Felton
SG Chandler
SF Gallo
PF Amare
C DLee

still small-ish, but try to guard that team aka just the way D'Antoni wants it.

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7/5/2010  7:43 PM
I think Monta Ellis will be a better pick and roll player.. avg'd the same number of assist as Felton.. played in a wacky offensive system w/ Don Nelson and averaged 25 ppg too. If we can pry Biedrens away, that be even better
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7/5/2010  7:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2010  7:48 PM
We can go after Felton, but we'd need a lot more than just him and how much flexibility would we have left to really improve? Would be more like 2011.
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7/5/2010  7:51 PM
VDesai wrote:We can go after Felton, but we'd need a lot more than just him and how much flexibility would we have left to really improve? Would be more like 2011.

We have enough left to sign Felton and DLee. with Amare, that's a big improvement.

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7/5/2010  7:53 PM
We should keep enough remaining cap room to add to Curry's next year to get Melo.
Having said if Lebron indeed spurns us we should go after that other guy first, you know the miami guy?
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7/5/2010  7:54 PM
loweyecue wrote:We should keep enough remaining cap room to add to Curry's next year to get Melo.
Having said if Lebron indeed spurns us we should go after that other guy first, you know the miami guy?

i think he's staying in miami no matter what.

someone else said this - but dude is going through a divorce, he will want that full 6yrs $120M.

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7/5/2010  7:56 PM
loweyecue wrote:We should keep enough remaining cap room to add to Curry's next year to get Melo.
Having said if Lebron indeed spurns us we should go after that other guy first, you know the miami guy?

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7/5/2010  8:06 PM
crzymdups wrote:
loweyecue wrote:We should keep enough remaining cap room to add to Curry's next year to get Melo.
Having said if Lebron indeed spurns us we should go after that other guy first, you know the miami guy?

i think he's staying in miami no matter what.

someone else said this - but dude is going through a divorce, he will want that full 6yrs $120M.

well the question is if he will make more with endorsements in ny? i am sure in their meeting that ny mentioned the monetary potential like they did with james. wade said he wants to win and he was crushed last year in the playoffs. he knows he wont get it done with him and boozer down there. he will definitely explore his options.

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7/5/2010  8:12 PM
loweyecue wrote:We should keep enough remaining cap room to add to Curry's next year to get Melo.
Having said if Lebron indeed spurns us we should go after that other guy first, you know the miami guy?

the idea that if we just let curry expire and hold aside an extra $6M this year we'll have enough to get Melo is a fallacy. it ignores the fact that all the guys we have under contract are getting raises next season. and there will be a lockout and who knows what the cap will be.

praying for melo next season is wishful thinking.

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7/5/2010  8:32 PM
crzymdups wrote:
loweyecue wrote:We should keep enough remaining cap room to add to Curry's next year to get Melo.
Having said if Lebron indeed spurns us we should go after that other guy first, you know the miami guy?

the idea that if we just let curry expire and hold aside an extra $6M this year we'll have enough to get Melo is a fallacy. it ignores the fact that all the guys we have under contract are getting raises next season. and there will be a lockout and who knows what the cap will be.

praying for melo next season is wishful thinking.

That's why I am saying we need to retain enough cap room to add to Curry's expiring for next season

OR

Give someone a one year deal to fill a need.

So Felton + X + Curry = Felton + Melo
Salary-wise that has to work for anyone we hire.

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7/5/2010  8:53 PM
Felton wouldn't be bad in the P&R but it all depends on the cost of bringing him here... $8M first year salary for Felton is too much... assuming we're using the rest of the cap space to sign other players than just Amare, that pretty much takes away any shot we have of going after Carmelo next season, if that indeed is the Plan B if we strike out on Lebron this year... even tho Ray maybe worth that much in this market, for our purposes he's not worth the investment in my view.
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7/5/2010  9:25 PM
TMS wrote:Felton wouldn't be bad in the P&R but it all depends on the cost of bringing him here... $8M first year salary for Felton is too much... assuming we're using the rest of the cap space to sign other players than just Amare, that pretty much takes away any shot we have of going after Carmelo next season, if that indeed is the Plan B if we strike out on Lebron this year... even tho Ray maybe worth that much in this market, for our purposes he's not worth the investment in my view.

Doesn't Chandler expire next year as well? May be we could trade him for picks, yes or even Jordan hill (just messin' with u)

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7/5/2010  9:27 PM
If/when Bron spurns us... I believe Ray Felton Dwayne Wade should be a primary target.

Fixed.

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7/5/2010  9:37 PM
crzymdups wrote:PG Felton
SG Chandler
SF Gallo
PF Amare
C DLee

still small-ish, but try to guard that team aka just the way D'Antoni wants it.

I definitely think we S&T Lee for the best play-maker we can find if we miss on Lebron and Wade. Felton is a distinct possibility.. Is he an UFA? How about Lee to Minny for Rubio + filler?

The new plan A, must remain a superstar, because we want chips, not just another run like the 90s. I would think Melo is the clear choice. Since he would be a max, any moves we make with Lee and/or Curry should ensure that we retain adequate cap room for when it's time to sign Melo.

PG Felton/TD
SG Chandler/Walker
SF Gallo
PF Amare
C Barron/JJnew

followed by...

PG Felton/TD
SG Chandler/Walker
SF Gallo/Melo
PF Gallo/Amare
C Barron/JJnew

That right there would be our team and it would contend.

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7/5/2010  9:41 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:If/when Bron spurns us... I believe Ray Felton Dwayne Wade should be a primary target.

Fixed.

Agreed.

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7/5/2010  9:43 PM
crzymdups wrote:
loweyecue wrote:We should keep enough remaining cap room to add to Curry's next year to get Melo.
Having said if Lebron indeed spurns us we should go after that other guy first, you know the miami guy?

i think he's staying in miami no matter what.

someone else said this - but dude is going through a divorce, he will want that full 6yrs $120M.

Here is one possibility though: If you look at all the teams assuming Bosh to Hou is dead (Toronto won't do it), he could decide to just sign with Chicago because that is his best fit there with Rose. Chicago won't be able to S&T for Wade and then Wade may well want to leave Mia for NY.

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7/5/2010  9:50 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:If/when Bron spurns us... I believe Ray Felton Dwayne Wade should be a primary target.

Fixed.

Agreed.

okay, wade is never coming here.

after wade and bron spurn us can we focus on felton?

i think we have a slight shot at lebron. no shot at wade.

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7/5/2010  10:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2010  10:09 PM
I wanted Felton until he got burned badly by Jameer Nelson in the playoffs.

Now I'm not so sure...

I think the best move is to still try and pursue a trade for Tony Parker if James/Wade spurns us. We can try and work a S&T for David Lee (if SAS doesn't want Lee, we can see if they'd prefer Ellis or Jefferson and make it a 3-way), or just give them Chandler straight up (no Curry involved, they won't take him).

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7/5/2010  10:13 PM
scoshin wrote:I wanted Felton until he got burned badly by Jameer Nelson in the playoffs.

Now I'm not so sure...

I think the best move is to still try and pursue a trade for Tony Parker if James/Wade spurns us. We can try and work a S&T for David Lee (if SAS doesn't want Lee, we can see if they'd prefer Ellis or Jefferson and make it a 3-way), or just give them Chandler straight up (no Curry involved, they won't take him).

Very good point I watched that series and Nelson outplayed him bad I'm not too sure about him he's kind of small 2.

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