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7/3/2010  7:14 AM
Hahn tweeted my dream come true this morning....
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Amar'e, Tony Parker and . . . Carmelo? Source says Melo won't sign extension. Desperate Knicks keeping close tabs:http://bit.ly/9IRrSE

CHICAGO - The Knicks appear to be close to securing their first significant addition in this summer's free-agency sweepstakes. Though it isn't LeBron James , it is an All-Star, Amar'e Stoudemire, whom the Knicks hope might entice James or at least help jump-start their long-awaited rebuilding process.

And if all else fails, the Knicks are preparing contingency plans that could include a run at Carmelo Anthony well before he becomes a free agent in 2011.

Stoudemire has yet to make his scheduled visit to New York - that is supposed to occur Monday - but multiple NBA insiders involved in the process told Newsday that the five-time All-Star power forward is ready to accept a five-year, $92-million contract with the Knicks.

Stoudemire, 27, would reunite with Mike D'Antoni , who coached him for four seasons with the Phoenix Suns from 2004-08. They shared a mercurial relationship, but right now, they need each other.

Stoudemire, who had microfracture surgery on his knee in October 2005 and surgery to repair a detached retina in February 2009, wasn't drawing a great deal of interest, and the Knicks don't seem to be getting good vibes from free agents, either.

The Suns, who saw their injury protection-loaded final offer of five years and $94 million rejected by Stoudemire, waived his Bird rights Friday, a clear sign they have given up trying to re-sign him. Stoudemire talked to the Heat on Wednesday night in Los Angeles before having a phone conversation with D' Antoni .

Teams cannot officially sign players until after the seven-day moratorium is lifted Thursday, but an agreement in principle can be reached before then.

"We're having our meetings and touching all bases," D' Antoni said. "And it just keeps evolving and going on. That's really all we have to report."

Despite media speculation that places them as a long shot, the Knicks hope Stoudemire can help them lure James. A person close to Stoudemire said the power forward already is lobbying James and Joe Johnson with text messages and urging them to join him in New York.

Remember that James campaigned for the Cavaliers to get Stoudemire before the Feb. 18 trade deadline. The two were chummy during All-Star weekend in Dallas. D'Antoni envisions a devastating pick-and-roll tandem that would be a nightmare to defend.

Stoudemire played all 82 games as an All-Star selection for the Suns this past season and averaged 23.1 points and 8.9 rebounds in 34.6 minutes.

Another situation the Knicks are closely monitoring, according to NBA team officials, involves a potential blockbuster deal for Anthony. He has a three-year, $65-million contract extension from the Denver Nuggets on the table, but a person with knowledge of the situation told Newsday that Anthony is strongly considering declining the offer.

Anthony, who was born in Brooklyn's Red Hook projects, is married to former MTV VJ LaLa Vazquez, who also was born in Brooklyn and is said to want to move back to New York for career purposes. They recently put their $9.5-million mansion in suburban Denver on the market.

A Nuggets source recently called talk of trading Anthony "absolute speculation" but did not deny it as a possible result if Anthony does not want to re-sign. A member of the NBA's famed 2003 draft class, Anthony has not been able to raise his stature to that of James and Wade, and a move to a major market could help.

A high-ranking Knicks official confirmed that Anthony's situation "will be followed up" this offseason but said that with very few assets on the roster, the challenge is in getting him. One potential asset - using the Bird rights to David Lee in a sign-and-trade - might not be there for them much longer. Lee, who was in Chicago on Friday while the Knicks also were here, is getting strong interest from the Nets, Bulls, Heat and Wizards.

According to an NBA player, Stoudemire also has reached out to others, such as the Spurs' Tony Parker , who is seeking a full max extension after his contract expires next summer. Parker's interest in being traded to the Knicks is motivated by George Hill 's ascent into Gregg Popovich 's starting lineup and the fact that his wife, actress Eva Longoria , would prefer a move to New York.

In this scenario, the Knicks envision adding at least one more perimeter shooter, perhaps Mike Miller , to join Danilo Gallinari to help open the floor for Parker and Stoudemire to work the pick-and-roll.

The Knicks met Friday with Wade and Chris Bosh . Wade left his two-hour morning sit-down with the Knicks saying: "It went real well . . . I will say I'm intrigued." But after he left the meeting with the Knicks, Wade had a second meeting with the Bulls.

LeBron , meanwhile, was in Cleveland , sitting down with the Heat and Clippers. There were reports that King James came away unimpressed with the Knicks' pitch Thursday, which is consistent with the negative reactions the Knicks have gotten from unnamed sources in reports during the past week.

Knicks president Donnie Walsh seemed annoyed with the way his franchise is being portrayed.

"I have not heard from anybody that's connected with that camp that said that," Walsh said of the reports regarding LeBron , "so I really don't know."

The Dolan family owns controlling interests in the Knicks, MSG and Cablevision . Cablevision owns Newsday.

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7/3/2010  7:16 AM
I am eh on Parker, probably would rather have a Joe Johnson/Douglas back court, but I want Melo more than Lebron.

Lee and Chandler may be a good place to start....

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7/3/2010  7:27 AM
Melo coming back to NY is something I would be equally as excited about as if LeBron came here - if not more. But it seems kinda impossible. A possibility could be to package chandler, douglas, curry and maybe absorb one of their worse contracts, but that still seems ridiculously bad for them.
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7/3/2010  7:38 AM
Desperate Knicks?

Hahn, you work for Dolan now, calm down.


I don't quite see how the Knicks are desperate - while you know every other team is apparently doing the right things all along.

We cleaned house of the idiots. We cleared our cap so we can get at big name free agents. We have a handful of good young players.

What's the problem and where is the desperation?

Pathetic writing....

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7/3/2010  7:40 AM
joec32033 wrote:I am eh on Parker, probably would rather have a Joe Johnson/Douglas back court, but I want Melo more than Lebron.

Lee and Chandler may be a good place to start....

Melo would fit better in with Mike D's game plans. I think that's a given. Yet LBJ is the biggest draw and the best overall player. So if you can have him then you get him. I'd be happy with either one but still do think Melo is the better fit.

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7/3/2010  7:54 AM
Cosmic wrote:Desperate Knicks?

Hahn, you work for Dolan now, calm down.


I don't quite see how the Knicks are desperate - while you know every other team is apparently doing the right things all along.

We cleaned house of the idiots. We cleared our cap so we can get at big name free agents. We have a handful of good young players.

What's the problem and where is the desperation?

Pathetic writing....

Desperate cause they could walk away with only Amare this summer and nada else.

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7/3/2010  8:04 AM
Cosmic wrote:
joec32033 wrote:I am eh on Parker, probably would rather have a Joe Johnson/Douglas back court, but I want Melo more than Lebron.

Lee and Chandler may be a good place to start....

Melo would fit better in with Mike D's game plans. I think that's a given. Yet LBJ is the biggest draw and the best overall player. So if you can have him then you get him. I'd be happy with either one but still do think Melo is the better fit.

LeBron is the better player, but I think Melo is the type of killer LeBron isn't.

It may be just me, and I am probably in the minority, LeBron to me, just doesn't seem to impose his his will on a game as often as he should. LBJ has a big game and it's like, eh, ok...so he had a big game. Didn't realize it, and it may or may not have helped his team win, but it's just it doesn't seem he imposed his will, it just happens. Carmelo seems to be able truly impose his will on a game. I don't know. I am having a hard time explaining it. It just seems different.

I also like Carmelo's ruggedness and attitude a lot more than Lebron's golden child aura. LeBron just seems to me this HUGE diva (I mean it has faded a lot into the background to the point where people are saying LBJ is handling his Free Agency with class, how soon everyone forgets about 4 months ago and all the snide hints). His entourage could be trouble. I am truly worried about LBJ controlling the franchise. It just seems too much of a circus to me.

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7/3/2010  8:12 AM

The way he nods his head after that dunk is just awesome. Do that in orange and blue please.

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7/3/2010  8:18 AM
martin wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Desperate Knicks?

Hahn, you work for Dolan now, calm down.


I don't quite see how the Knicks are desperate - while you know every other team is apparently doing the right things all along.

We cleaned house of the idiots. We cleared our cap so we can get at big name free agents. We have a handful of good young players.

What's the problem and where is the desperation?

Pathetic writing....

Desperate cause they could walk away with only Amare this summer and nada else.

Adding a top name free agent, having infinite cap space the following summer to toy with, comes off as desperate?

I don't see it.

We spent two years making room for a plan that we've been executing to the letter throughout. What desperation? We made our room and now we're making our pitches to the top names.

Still wondering why anyone concludes our plan is "desperation" and why the Bulls, Heat, Nets plans are "genius" when they're all the same plan: Make room, try to sign the big names, and if that fails look at the next level of talent.

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7/3/2010  9:20 AM
----->Lee, who was in Chicago on Friday while the Knicks also were here, is getting strong interest from the Nets, Bulls, Heat and Wizards.


This is funny--you know what this is--the Knicks leaking that Lee might be signed because they want his salary to eat up some of the cap out there--they do not want Lee back.

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7/3/2010  9:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2010  9:26 AM
At this point landing Amare would be the best way to go as it would be a player that other players would want to play with next yr with big cap space. Hopefully Gallo, Walker, Douglas and Chaandler look good enough with Amare to lure free agents next offseason.
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7/3/2010  9:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2010  9:39 AM
I just love these beautiful actress/celebrity wives who want to live in NY to further their careers. Family harmony also plays a role. The wives could determine if their husbands play in NY.

Carmelo Anthony, who was born in Brooklyn's Red Hook projects, is married to former MTV VJ LaLa Vazquez, who also was born in Brooklyn and is said to want to move back to New York for career purposes.

Parker's interest in being traded to the Knicks is motivated by ..... and the fact that his wife, actress Eva Longoria , would prefer a move to New York.

LaLa Vazquez Anthony

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7/3/2010  9:30 AM
Joe Johnson hasn't signed yet either
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7/3/2010  9:42 AM
Melo in Orange and Blue would be ideal. This is definitely doable in regards with trade assets. Curry(expiring), DLee(S&T?), The Mayor for Melo. Denver would not be able to do better than that.

My only question is can you include DLee in a S&T? Does NBA rules allow it?

Amare, Melo and Gallo frontline would be high octane offense.

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7/3/2010  9:52 AM
My Knicks cream, I mean dream team...
Rubio
Joe Johnson
Melo
Gallo
Amare

Bench
Walker

Everyone else of value traded to get that lineup

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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7/3/2010  10:25 AM
i would love to get melo and it seems right for that to happen. however, i cant see denver trading him this summer unless melo pushes it ( sort of like what garnett did) and use lee for a sign and trade. it will be really telling if denver interviews lee in the nxt few days and i can see lee going to a team like that and be happy. it will also take gallinari or chandler to get it done which i am willing to do for a franchise player like melo. if we trade for melo and have amare and sign someone like raymond felton then we are set.
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7/3/2010  10:29 AM
Carmelo Anthony has been my favorite player from another team since he came into the league. I just love how he plays. He doesn't fear anyone. He's also matured into a TRUE Star since they acquired Chauncey Billups. It takes a special player with great talent and a unique personality to be the top dawg in New York and I think Melo is one of few who could do it. He has that Latrell Sprewell-like swagger. So if we get dissed by LeBron James, we MUST protect the cap for next summer. Doing some quick math, we could only spend about $10M after we sign Amare Stoudemire so we have enough room for a MAX next summer.
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7/3/2010  10:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2010  10:49 AM
Just curious how realistic an Amar'e/Carmelo Anthony/Tony Parker trio is for us at this point. Pretty damn good plan B right there if you ask me..

Amar'e -- said to be close to signing a 5-year contract anywhere from $92-100M. Knicks might be the only team out there willing to give him full gauranteed money, with no injury protection for the team (nothing based on games played, etc..). Whether this is really the guy we want or not, that detail might seal the deal for us. Like him or not, he does give us a lot more credibility throughout this whole process as soon as he walks through the door...He instantly gives us two legs to stand on whereas right now, we're pretty much on our knees..I don't love the idea of going with a fully gauranteed contract for a guy with his injury history, but what are we gonna do? We might have to bite the bullet just to secure that first big name. He might be worth that risk..For what I've heard, it sounds as if Amar'e's prepared to go out there and help us recruit players, whether it's LeBron or some other guys. Big plus..

Melo -- supposedly he's refusing to sign an extention with the Nuggets and it's been reported recently that Denver could be open to trading him to ensure they don't loose him for nothing when the time comes...Does David Lee & Gallinari get that done? Lee AND Gallo is a pretty substantial package to get back in any trade..Would Lee agree to go to Denver? Well first off, I think he would if Denver agreed to pay him, say something in the $12-14M dollar dange to start as part of a S&T..Plus, that team's been fairly successful in recent years (true that's had a ton to do with Melo obviously but still, there's been a winning culture there in Denver for a while now), Lee would be a perfect fit--he'd give them an all-star PF who would take over for K-Mart who's coming off the books next summer (I betcha he'd automatically eclipse K-Mart in the rotation this year and start alongside Nene/Birdman at the 5 with Gallo at the 3)...Speaking of Gallo, Lee would be playing with two guys he already knows, Gallo & Balkman. Plus Lee grew up in Missouri--that's pretty damn close to Denver, Colorado...Melo, on the flipside, was born in Red Hook Brooklyn and played at Syracuse. I know he moved to Baltimore when he was younger--I wonder if he still has family in the DC area..Point is, I think he and his family would be completely comfortable with him coming back east, esp. Melo with a chance to play in the Garden, where he excelled time and time again playing for 'Cuse. His wife's career could also benefit greatly with a move to NY.

Tony Parker -- Supposedly Pop called him up recently to tell him he's not going anywhere but I don't know if I buy that completely. George Hill passed him by in the rotation and I know for a fact they are really high on DL prospect Curtis Jerrells..No matter what Pop says now I think he really burned some bridges with this guy last year..George Hill?? WTF Pop? I don't care how good he played while filling in---Tony Parker won that city 3 championships...Parker has said he wants NY and wants to come play for MDA...I just don't know if a trade of Curry/Chandler and TD gets that done. It might--SA should feel the same way Denver feels about Melo right now -- why wait for Parker to just bolt after the season where you lose him for nothing. Curry's useless (though maybe he finally gets motivated being around Tim Duncan everyday), basically fodder as an expiring contract just to make the money work but Chandler and Douglas are two pretty good young players...With the way Parker has been treated, esp. after what he's done for that city, I think he wants out right now. I can't see him being happy at all playing behind George Hill this season, if that's Pop's intention...There's already talk that Amar'e's talking to Tony Parker about possibly teaming up with the Knicks. You know what else I like--with Curry coming off the books next year, I think we might be able to get this guy for nothing when he's a FA..Instead of trading for him, maybe we wait on him for a year and just sign him...

I could definitely see this coming together..Hopefully the Knicks have considered this. Any thoughts???

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Finestrg wrote:Just curious how realistic an Amar'e/Carmelo Anthony/Tony Parker trio is for us at this point. Pretty damn good plan B right there if you ask me..

Amar'e -- said to be close to signing a 5-year contract anywhere from $92-100M. Knicks might be the only team out there willing to give him full gauranteed money, with no injury protection for the team (nothing based on games played, etc..). Whether this is really the guy we want or not, that detail might seal the deal for us. Like him or not, he does give us a lot more credibility throughout this whole process as soon as he walks through the door...He instantly gives us two legs to stand on whereas right now, we're pretty much on our knees..I don't like the idea of going with a fully gauranteed contract for a guy with his injury history, but what are we gonna do. We might have to bite the bullet just to secure that first big name. He might be worth that risk..For what I've heard, it sounds as if Amar'e's prepared to go out there and help us recruit players, whether it's LeBron or some other guys. Big plus..

Melo -- supposedly he's refusing to sign an extention with the Nuggets and it's been reported recently that Denver could be open to trading him to ensure they don't loose him for nothing when the time comes...Does David Lee & Gallinari get that done? Lee AND Gallo is a pretty substantial package to get back in any trade..Would Lee agree to go to Denver? Well first off, I think he would if Denver agreed to pay him, say something in the $12-14M dollar dange to start as part of a S&T..Plus, that team's been fairly successful in recent years (true that's had a ton to do with Melo obviously but still, there's been a winning culture there in Denver for a while now), Lee would be a perfect fit--he'd give them an all-star PF who would take over for K-Mart who's coming off the books next summer (I betcha he'd automatically eclipse K-Mart in the rotation this year and start alongside Nene/Birdman at the 5 with Gallo at the 3)...Speaking of Gallo, Lee would be playing with two guys he already knows, Gallo & Balkman. Plus Lee grew up in Missouri--that's pretty damn close to Denver, Colorado...Melo, on the flipside, was born in Red Hook Brooklyn and played at Syracuse. I know he moved to Baltimore when he was younger--I wonder if he still has family in the DC area..Point is, I think he and his family would be completely comfortable with him coming back east, esp. to play in the Garden, where he excelled time and time again playing for 'Cuse. His wife's career could benefit greatly with a move to NY.

Tony Parker -- Supposedly Pop called him up recently to tell him he's not going anywhere but I don't know if I buy that completely. George Hill passed him by in the rotation and I know for a fact they are really high on DL prospect Curtis Jerrells..No matter what Pop says now I think he really burned some bridges with this guy last year..George Hill?? WTF Pop? I don't care how good he played while filling in---Tony Parker won that city 3 championships...Parker has said he wants NY and wants to come play for MDA...I just don't know if a trade of Curry/Chandler and TD gets that done. It might--SA should feel the same way Denver feels about Melo right now -- why wait for Parker to just bolt after the season where you lose him for nothing. Curry's useless (though maybe he finally gets motivated being around Tim Duncan everyday), basically fodder as an expiring contract just to make the money work but Chandler and Douglas are two pretty good young players...With the way Parker has been treated, esp. after what he's done for that city, I think he wants out right now. I can't see him being happy at all playing behind George Hill this season, if that's Pop's intention...There's already talk that Amar'e's talking to Tony Parker about possibly teaming up with the Knicks. You know what else I like--with Curry coming off the books next year, I think we might be able to get this guy for nothing when he's a FA..Instead of trading for him, maybe we wait on him for a year and just sign him...

I could definitely see this coming together..Hopefully the Knicks have considered this. Any thoughts???

Agree on Amare.

Agree on Melo on everything but the contract. He is no doubt a max contract.

I don't want Parker. I would rather have Johnson and Douglas in the backcourt.

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7/3/2010  11:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2010  11:10 AM
joec32033 wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Just curious how realistic an Amar'e/Carmelo Anthony/Tony Parker trio is for us at this point. Pretty damn good plan B right there if you ask me..

Amar'e -- said to be close to signing a 5-year contract anywhere from $92-100M. Knicks might be the only team out there willing to give him full gauranteed money, with no injury protection for the team (nothing based on games played, etc..). Whether this is really the guy we want or not, that detail might seal the deal for us. Like him or not, he does give us a lot more credibility throughout this whole process as soon as he walks through the door...He instantly gives us two legs to stand on whereas right now, we're pretty much on our knees..I don't like the idea of going with a fully gauranteed contract for a guy with his injury history, but what are we gonna do. We might have to bite the bullet just to secure that first big name. He might be worth that risk..For what I've heard, it sounds as if Amar'e's prepared to go out there and help us recruit players, whether it's LeBron or some other guys. Big plus..

Melo -- supposedly he's refusing to sign an extention with the Nuggets and it's been reported recently that Denver could be open to trading him to ensure they don't loose him for nothing when the time comes...Does David Lee & Gallinari get that done? Lee AND Gallo is a pretty substantial package to get back in any trade..Would Lee agree to go to Denver? Well first off, I think he would if Denver agreed to pay him, say something in the $12-14M dollar dange to start as part of a S&T..Plus, that team's been fairly successful in recent years (true that's had a ton to do with Melo obviously but still, there's been a winning culture there in Denver for a while now), Lee would be a perfect fit--he'd give them an all-star PF who would take over for K-Mart who's coming off the books next summer (I betcha he'd automatically eclipse K-Mart in the rotation this year and start alongside Nene/Birdman at the 5 with Gallo at the 3)...Speaking of Gallo, Lee would be playing with two guys he already knows, Gallo & Balkman. Plus Lee grew up in Missouri--that's pretty damn close to Denver, Colorado...Melo, on the flipside, was born in Red Hook Brooklyn and played at Syracuse. I know he moved to Baltimore when he was younger--I wonder if he still has family in the DC area..Point is, I think he and his family would be completely comfortable with him coming back east, esp. to play in the Garden, where he excelled time and time again playing for 'Cuse. His wife's career could benefit greatly with a move to NY.

Tony Parker -- Supposedly Pop called him up recently to tell him he's not going anywhere but I don't know if I buy that completely. George Hill passed him by in the rotation and I know for a fact they are really high on DL prospect Curtis Jerrells..No matter what Pop says now I think he really burned some bridges with this guy last year..George Hill?? WTF Pop? I don't care how good he played while filling in---Tony Parker won that city 3 championships...Parker has said he wants NY and wants to come play for MDA...I just don't know if a trade of Curry/Chandler and TD gets that done. It might--SA should feel the same way Denver feels about Melo right now -- why wait for Parker to just bolt after the season where you lose him for nothing. Curry's useless (though maybe he finally gets motivated being around Tim Duncan everyday), basically fodder as an expiring contract just to make the money work but Chandler and Douglas are two pretty good young players...With the way Parker has been treated, esp. after what he's done for that city, I think he wants out right now. I can't see him being happy at all playing behind George Hill this season, if that's Pop's intention...There's already talk that Amar'e's talking to Tony Parker about possibly teaming up with the Knicks. You know what else I like--with Curry coming off the books next year, I think we might be able to get this guy for nothing when he's a FA..Instead of trading for him, maybe we wait on him for a year and just sign him...

I could definitely see this coming together..Hopefully the Knicks have considered this. Any thoughts???

Agree on Amare.

Agree on Melo on everything but the contract. He is no doubt a max contract.

I don't want Parker. I would rather have Johnson and Douglas in the backcourt.

Yeah, no doubt Melo's a max guy. If he was a FA in this year's class, I'd rate him a close 3rd, only behind Lebron then Wade...When I mentioned $12-14M to start, I was referring to David Lee. Melo's due to make over $17.2M this year--we'd be inheriting that contract until it was time to reup him...Lee & Gallo doesn't equal Melo but it's a damn good package for Denver to get to ensure they don't loose this guy for nothing..

To me Tony Parker = 3 championships...And those championships weren't all won by Tim Duncan alone -- this guy played a huge part..I think he's a guy that makes a lot of sense for us right now given the situation on both sides, us & SA..He makes a lot of sense for us no matter who we wind up getting in FA right now. I think he'd instantly make us a much more attractive team...Or, like I said, say we succeed in landing 2 guys like an Amar'e & Melo in a trade and then SA holds us hostage on a Parker trade for future picks, etc..No problem -- based on how they treated him last year, the fact that he wants out, wants NY/MDA & may have even had some dialogue with Amar'e about teaming up in the Big Apple recently, AND the fact that he's an UFA next season, I'd be confident I could sign him outright the following year and just go with Amar'e/Melo in year 1...Right now I'd call up SA and offer Curry/Chandler & TD -- take it or leave it..

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